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| Ron Linville 2005-10-18, 5:21 pm |
| Termidor or Premise, is there a preference?
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-10-18, 8:21 pm |
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On 18-Oct-2005, "Ron Linville" <linvillr@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Termidor or Premise, is there a preference?
If used properly both are great products. There is also Phantom that is just
as good as Termidor or Premise, so they are all good products.
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| In article <5%b5f.16596$QE1.16499@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
linvillr@earthlink.net says...
Termidor or Premise, is there a preference?



I'd go Termidor...Phantom..Premise.
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Lar
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| nelsonpest@bellsouth.net 2005-10-19, 12:21 am |
| Ron, it really depends on the technician doing the treatment. I was
told years ago, "the treatment is only as good as the tech performing
it". However, I myself use Termidor. Don't get me wrong, Premise is
wonderful as well. I'll put it to you this way Ron, Mercedes Benz, or
Lexus? Both are OUTSTANDING products.
Best of success!
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| Termidor is my top choice. I used Premise 75 when I started in this industry
in 1999. Premise would be my 2nd choice. Did my first Premise job Sunday
since I've opened my business. I don't remember Premise getting all funky in
the tank of my spray rig. Even when I thoroughly rinse out the rig before a
termite treatment. Have these dark brown little chunks stuck all to the
walls of my tank now. Tried blasting them off with my water. Ran tank
cleaner through my rig and power sprayed the tank walls. The stuff still
won't come off. I'm going to call my Bayer rep. and see what he thinks of
it.
Darlene
<nelsonpest@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1129691074.314956.237590@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ron, it really depends on the technician doing the treatment. I was
> told years ago, "the treatment is only as good as the tech performing
> it". However, I myself use Termidor. Don't get me wrong, Premise is
> wonderful as well. I'll put it to you this way Ron, Mercedes Benz, or
> Lexus? Both are OUTSTANDING products.
>
> Best of success!
>
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| PCOpug 2005-10-19, 10:21 pm |
| spray rig. Even when I thoroughly rinse out the rig before a
termite treatment. Have these dark brown little chunks stuck all to the
walls of my tank now. Tried blasting them off with my water. Ran tank
cleaner through my rig and power sprayed the tank walls.
Poly tank or fiberglass ?
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| Poly tank. Thinking maybe I got a bad batch of Premise. I need to get in
there and scrub the tank now, its spotted.
"PCOpug" <m.j.braun59@juno.com> wrote in message
news:cNB5f.464100$5N3.60706@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> spray rig. Even when I thoroughly rinse out the rig before a
> termite treatment. Have these dark brown little chunks stuck all to the
> walls of my tank now. Tried blasting them off with my water. Ran tank
> cleaner through my rig and power sprayed the tank walls.
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> Poly tank or fiberglass ?
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| entophile 2005-10-20, 6:21 am |
| Ron Linville wrote:
> Termidor or Premise, is there a preference?
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Tests done in Hawaii have shown that soil treated with Termidor
maintains effectiveness against subs for a longer period of time than
soil treated with Premise.
This is probably why you can get a 10 year warranty with Termidor but
not with Premise (at least not that I'm aware of).
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| Budget Bug Man 2005-10-20, 11:21 am |
| Premise has a 7 year warranty, but tests have shown it 100% effective
at 13+ years is some areas. It all boils down to treatment - no product
will work well if not applied well. Even Termidor can fail if not
applied properly.
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| Budget Bug Man 2005-10-20, 11:21 am |
| Premise has a 7 year warranty, but tests have shown it 100% effective
at 13+ years is some areas. It all boils down to treatment - no product
will work well if not applied well. Even Termidor can fail if not
applied properly.
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| entophile 2005-10-21, 6:21 am |
| OK, but if both are applied correctly, the reasearch seems to show that
Termidor is the better product. I'll see if I can find the Hawaii data,
but check out this 2002 PestControl story on the Forest Service Tests:
http://www.pestcontrolmag.com/pestc...ail.jsp?id=8542
Budget Bug Man wrote:
> Premise has a 7 year warranty, but tests have shown it 100% effective
> at 13+ years is some areas. It all boils down to treatment - no product
> will work well if not applied well. Even Termidor can fail if not
> applied properly.
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| I've also heard from some others in the industry that Premise is too hot for
termites. It doesn't get an effective kill on a colony because it can not
spread thoroughly through the colony. So its better to use the losest rate
application on Premise. Have you heard this too?
"entophile" <core@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> OK, but if both are applied correctly, the reasearch seems to show that
> Termidor is the better product. I'll see if I can find the Hawaii data,
> but check out this 2002 PestControl story on the Forest Service Tests:
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> http://www.pestcontrolmag.com/pestc...ail.jsp?id=8542
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> Budget Bug Man wrote:
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| Budget Bug Man 2005-10-21, 6:21 pm |
| What I have heard is that it will kill termites quicker than Termidor,
and due to that it does not transfer as far as Fipronil will. It's
Domino Effect is not quite as far reaching as the Transfer Effect of
Termidor, but it is effective.
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| In article <kQ96f.3656$Bf7.56@tornado.texas.rr.com>, rsmith9982
@houston.rr.com says...
I've also heard from some others in the industry that Premise is too hot for
termites. It doesn't get an effective kill on a colony because it can not
spread thoroughly through the colony. So its better to use the losest rate
application on Premise. Have you heard this too?


Premise isn't designed for colony kill. As soon as the termite is
contaminated with Premise they pretty much short circuit and quit
feeding and interacting with the other termites, thus no longer feeding
on the home causing damage. A side effect using Premise was that the
effected termites also no longer groomed each other or the tubes/nest
now causing harmful bacteria/fungi to grow, harming the colony.
--
Lar
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| entophile 2005-10-21, 10:21 pm |
| rsmith9982@houston.rr.com wrote:
> I've also heard from some others in the industry that Premise is too hot for
> termites. It doesn't get an effective kill on a colony because it can not
> spread thoroughly through the colony. So its better to use the losest rate
> application on Premise. Have you heard this too?
> "entophile" <core@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:aD16f.3720$fc7.2281@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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Yes I have heard the same...Univar guy here was telling me something
similar a few weeks ago.
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