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Need easy-to-set mouse traps
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| Pat and Chris 2005-12-01, 10:21 am |
| We've always used the old-fashioned wooden Victor or Tomcat snap traps to
deal with the field mice that find their way into our house several times a
year. They're cheap enough that we can keep multiple traps set in the attic
and basement, and we can just toss the trap along with the mouse. But as I
get older, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to set these traps. And if
I bend the trigger to make it easier to set, the trap's sensitivity
decreases too much and the mouse steals the bait.
I've seen plastic "quick set" traps (they look like big clothespins) at the
store and they do look like they'd be easier to set--you just squeeze them.
Are these plastic snap traps as effective as traditional wood-and-metal snap
traps? I want something that kills the mouse quickly and humanely, so glue
traps, poison and live traps are out.
Just want to say I appreciate the advice I've gotten from this newsgroup in
the past. You guys are great!
Pat McC.
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| In article <jfDjf.22078$mM2.6302@fe09.lga>,
NospamforPatorChris@invalid.example says...
 I've seen plastic "quick set" traps (they look like big clothespins) at the
store and they do look like they'd be easier to set--you just squeeze them.
Are these plastic snap traps as effective as traditional wood-and-metal snap
traps? I want something that kills the mouse quickly and humanely, so glue
traps, poison and live traps are out.
I haven't used one before, but I don't see why they wouldn't be fine to
use for mice.
--
Lar
Oh, if only Noah would of been a bit more wise,
he surely would of swatted those two flies.
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-12-01, 11:21 pm |
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On 1-Dec-2005, "Pat and Chris" <NospamforPatorChris@invalid.example> wrote:
> I've seen plastic "quick set" traps (they look like big clothespins) at
> the
> store and they do look like they'd be easier to set--you just squeeze
> them.
> Are these plastic snap traps as effective as traditional wood-and-metal
> snap
> traps?
They don't kill the same was as the Victor wood and metal traps do, those
kill instantly where the plastic quick set traps will trap and hold the
mouse until it suffocates. It may take a couple minutes but it is fairly
quick, but not instant. That is about all the difference that I know in the
working of them. They are very much easier to use and they don't hurt if
they happen to go off on your fingernail either. That hurts just thinking
about it. It never seems to happen that the metal ones go off on the meat of
your finger they seem always to get you on the fingernail and that hurts.
Maybe it is just that I remember those more clearly.
I hope this helps somewhat.
--
I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| bugs@bugs.com wrote:
> On 1-Dec-2005, "Pat and Chris" <NospamforPatorChris@invalid.example> wrote:
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> They don't kill the same was as the Victor wood and metal traps do, those
> kill instantly where the plastic quick set traps will trap and hold the
> mouse until it suffocates. It may take a couple minutes but it is fairly
> quick, but not instant. That is about all the difference that I know in the
> working of them. They are very much easier to use and they don't hurt if
> they happen to go off on your fingernail either. That hurts just thinking
> about it. It never seems to happen that the metal ones go off on the meat of
> your finger they seem always to get you on the fingernail and that hurts.
> Maybe it is just that I remember those more clearly.
>
> I hope this helps somewhat.
>
boy do they bite when the clip slips.
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| Craig Riekena 2005-12-02, 5:21 pm |
| On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:53:18 -0500, "Pat and Chris"
<NospamforPatorChris@invalid.example> wrote:
>I've seen plastic "quick set" traps (they look like big clothespins) at the
>store and they do look like they'd be easier to set--you just squeeze them.
>Are these plastic snap traps as effective as traditional wood-and-metal snap
>traps? I want something that kills the mouse quickly and humanely, so glue
>traps, poison and live traps are out.
Well, I was very involved in the development and testing of these
plastic traps and they do work just as effectively. The throw speed is
slightly slower, but plenty fast enough for a mouse, and the grip and
hold are more than sufficient. The biggest advatage, as you have
noticed, is that they are very easy to set and very easy to release
the mouse from if you wish to reuse them. Additionally, as Tim
mentioned, they will not hurt if you do happen to snap them on your
finger - trust me on this, I was concerned about kids and snapped many
of these on my fingers during development. (This statement does not
apply to the rat sized version though!).
Trap placement is all about location. The label has good examples of
placement positions and locations.
I recommend the Motomco's Tomcat Mouse Snap Traps, of course.
Craig Riekena
Bell Laboratories, Inc.
Motomco Ltd.
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| Pat and Chris 2005-12-02, 5:21 pm |
| Hi Craig--What is "throw speed"? Is it how fast the trap closes? Do these
plastic traps snap hard enough to kill the mouse instantly?
FWIW, Tomcat wooden traps have been my trap-of-choice for the last couple of
years because they're easier to set than the Victors. But even they are very
difficult for me to use now.
Thanks,
Pat McC.
"Craig Riekena" <craigsngs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mnb1p19v5rme9e9ob9ad1oefnaa78tgck7@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:53:18 -0500, "Pat and Chris"
> <NospamforPatorChris@invalid.example> wrote:
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> Well, I was very involved in the development and testing of these
> plastic traps and they do work just as effectively. The throw speed is
> slightly slower, but plenty fast enough for a mouse, and the grip and
> hold are more than sufficient. The biggest advatage, as you have
> noticed, is that they are very easy to set and very easy to release
> the mouse from if you wish to reuse them. Additionally, as Tim
> mentioned, they will not hurt if you do happen to snap them on your
> finger - trust me on this, I was concerned about kids and snapped many
> of these on my fingers during development. (This statement does not
> apply to the rat sized version though!).
>
> Trap placement is all about location. The label has good examples of
> placement positions and locations.
>
> I recommend the Motomco's Tomcat Mouse Snap Traps, of course.
>
> Craig Riekena
> Bell Laboratories, Inc.
> Motomco Ltd.
>
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| Craig Riekena 2005-12-05, 5:21 pm |
| On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:09:28 -0500, "Pat and Chris"
<NospamforPatorChris@invalid.example> wrote:
>Hi Craig--What is "throw speed"? Is it how fast the trap closes? Do these
>plastic traps snap hard enough to kill the mouse instantly?
Greetings Pat,
Yes, the throw speed is the how fast the trap closes. This is very
important as these critters have extremely fast reflexes. Mice are
fast, rats are even faster.
I hesitate to write this as it goes against what so many wish to
believe and what others tell you all....
As to your second question...I hate to be the one to shatter the
perception but >no traps kill instantly<. I have tested traps from
every manufacturer many, many times (no I don't ilke to kill mice or
rats, but you'd prefer I do the research versus >you< having a product
which does not work). Even with a severe cervical or spinal
dislocation (broken neck or back) death is not instantaneous.
From the trapper's point of view, death is nearly instant, i.e. by the
time that you arrive on the scene minutes or hours later, the little
fellow is dead. Even in suffocation catches the mouse dies in less
than thirty seconds though (very high metablolism). All trap types
present both types of catches.
What type of traps, baits, glue boards, live traps, or whatever you
use are based upon person preference. You must weigh many factors
based upon your feelings and comfort level. I can provide the cold
facts, but each person must decide where their comfort level is.
Craig A. Riekena
Compliance Manager
Bell Laboratories/Motomco
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-12-05, 7:21 pm |
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On 5-Dec-2005, Craig Riekena <craigsngs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From the trapper's point of view, death is nearly instant, i.e. by the
> time that you arrive on the scene minutes or hours later, the little
> fellow is dead.
That is a very good point Craig and if a person was to think about it
logically how many times do we actually see a mouse in a trap still alive,
or maybe I should better say how many time are we at a trap within a matter
of seconds of it going off? I would easily say never. A homeowner may have a
better chance of getting there quicker but then again they tend shy away
once they hear it go off not really wanting to see what they hope or know
they are going to see. I have caught mice in TinCats without glueboards and
they have lived a few hours but even in those where they are captured live
their heart usually gives out on them rather quickly.
So I suppose it really doesn't matter if a snap trap kills within 30 seconds
or 10 seconds or 2 minutes because 99% of the time a PCO or the homeowner is
not going to see it until well after that amount of time is up.
Thanks again Craig for your insight into this.
--
I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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