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Is tenting the only method for treating drywood termites?
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| miamicuse 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| I have dry wood termites in a corner of a closet, probably behind that wall.
I am not sure of the extent of the infestation. I called a few pest control
company to see if they can come out and do an inspection and provide a free
estimate.
After talking to a few on the phone, they advised me that if they are
swarming (which in my case they are because I have found wings in that
infested area along with those fecal pellets), then the only way to deal
with it is to tent the entire property.
Is this true?
If I do tent, I supposed we need to get out of the house for several days.
Does it mean all the furniture, clothes, toys, everything need to be wiped
down, or do you move all your possessions outside of the house first before
they tent?
Thanks,
MC
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| miamicuse 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| Is infrared termite detection reliable?
I found this web site of a local company which can detect termites by seeing
through walls with infrared devices as well as K9 detection. Should I
consider this company or is this just smoke and mirrors?
http://www.bestecexterminators.com/7_infrared.html
Thanks,
MC
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| In article <ouudnT7erPDFzTvfRVn-pQ@dsli.com>, nmbexcuse@hotmail.com
says...
 After talking to a few on the phone, they advised me that if they are
swarming (which in my case they are because I have found wings in that
infested area along with those fecal pellets), then the only way to deal
with it is to tent the entire property.
Is this true?
I would say no...termidor has more than surpassed my expectations with
sub termites and ant control. I would be willing to bet they will take
care of the dry woods with great results.
If I do tent, I supposed we need to get out of the house for several days.
Does it mean all the furniture, clothes, toys, everything need to be wiped
down, or do you move all your possessions outside of the house first before
they tent?
HawaiiFumigation@aol.com can probably answer ANY question you may have
on dry wood treatments.
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Lar
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| I sent an email to a dear friend in Hawaii and ask her if she could come
read your posts and respond to your questions. Her business is fumigation
and drywood termites. She will have some answers for you but it may take a
few days as she is extremely busy right now.
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| miamicuse 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| Tim:
Thank you for all your help. I have lined up two companies to come by to
provide a recommendation. Keeping my fingers crossed. Will report back my
findings.
MC
<bugs@bugs.com> wrote in message news:MbOdnTrNCrwhEzrfRVn-tA@adelphia.com...
quote:
> I sent an email to a dear friend in Hawaii and ask her if she could come
> read your posts and respond to your questions. Her business is fumigation
> and drywood termites. She will have some answers for you but it may take a
> few days as she is extremely busy right now.
>
> --
> I wish you all the best
> Tim Wise
>
> www.onepest.com
> www.askourpros.com
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| Termidor is a liquid spray and can be applied indoors according to the label
for termites.
By the way Claudine, the friend of Lar's and myself in Hawaii has responded
to my email and she should be answering some of your questions very soon.
Hawaiifumigation@aol.com is normally what she will post under
--
I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| Hawaii Fumigation 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| Hey Tim. I replied to the original post yesterday, but I don't see it
on the thread. How long does it take for the posts to appear online?
Or did I mess it up and need to repost again?
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| Hawaii Fumigation 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| Oh nevermind Tim. I figured out what I did. My post went directly to
the original poster's email address instead of to this group. And
darn, that was a long and thorough post I made! LOL
Miamicuse, let me know if you received the message or if you need me to
re-do it.
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| Hawaii Fumigation 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| Okay, let me try this again. This is not verbatim of the original
message I sent but I thought I'd post this info for everyone else to
read if they were interested.
The primary objective of an inspection is to establish the extent of
problems/infestations that are affecting the home. This discovery then
serves as a catalyst to establishing the proper treatment and/or
treatment options.
Tent fumigation WITH VIKANE will require that the occupants of the home
protect their consumables with Nylofume bags, which should be provided
by the fumigation company. Items that must be protected are those that
will be ingested and do not have an air-tight factory seal. The
occupants must also vacate the structure for (typically) 2 to 3 days.
Because Vikane is a gas, it does not interact with solids and does not
penetrate or contaminate liquids. Upon removal of the tarps, any
remaining levels of gas dissipates into open air leaving absolutely no
residual behind. Because of its mode of action, it is not required or
necessary to wipe down surfaces or wash linens, clothing, dishware,
toys, etc. once the fumigation is complete.
Spot treatment using Premise Foam or Termidor is an excellent choice
providing that it can be determined that your infestation is isolated
and/or confined to a minimal area. However, this type of treatment is
limited. Although these products offer non-repellency and a transfer
effect, it should not be relied upon to achieve complete eradication.
Why you ask? Because drywood termites are elusive and can go
undetected for years. Additionally, once established within a home,
they often splinter and multiple colonies are formed. Those splinter
colonies can and will spread to other areas within the home, near and
far from the originating site. Furthermore, drywood termite galleries
are comprised of a series of branches and tunnels. When colonies
splinter, it is not uncommon for the splinter colony to move through a
tunnel and seal it off from the remaining branches, thus separating
them entirely from the originating colony. In the event that these
spot treatment products are delivered, the product may only expand as
far (in either direction) as the seal off point. In such a scenario
where multiple colonies exist within a nearby vicinity, only one colony
in the area would likely be controlled since the other colony is sealed
off from the treated area and has no physical contact with the infected
colony. Finally, because the gallery tunnels are not visible there is
no way to ensure that a treating product is deliverable to all active
branches within a gallery.
It is important for consumers to note the elusiveness of the drywood
termite. Typically, by the time visible evidence such as droppings are
found, it can be reasonably assessed that the termites causing those
droppings have been present in that vicinity for at least 1.5 to 2
years. This then begs the question as to whether other colonies have
splintered or formed within that same time period and further amplifies
the fact that termite activity has occurred undetected and may continue
doing so in areas that are not readily visible or accessible.
Spot treatment is definitely a viable option under certain
circumstances. This approach also holds the benefit of being more
economically feasible and less intrusive on the occupants of a home.
However, choosing this treatment approach also comes with the need for
the homeowner to understand its limitations and the potential risk that
other undetected colonies may be present and unaffected by the
treatment attempt.
Comparatively, tent fumigation allows for 100% eradication of existing
drywood termites throughout the structure for both detected and
undetected colonies. On the other hand, tent fumigation requires the
inconvenience of vacating the home and can be quite costly.
With all of that said, the "best" treatment approach for drywood
termite control depends on two factors.
1. The extent of infestation(s) affecting the home
2. The level of control you want to achieve or limitations you are
willing to accept
Aloha!
CP
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| Thanks Claudine I was hoping you would repost it but I wasn't going to ask
because I know you are so busy. I always gain so much from your insight.
Great reading and that is coming from someone that knows next to nothing
about fumigation. Oh thanks for helping out and answering this fellows
questions too, I knew if anyone could it would be you.
Be well.....
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| miamicuse 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| This is the original poster. I did not receive your email for some reason.
Thank you very much for this insightful message. So it is very clear now.
I know where I have a colony, but I don't know where I may have other
colonies, so tenting is the safest way to go, and spot treatment is only
when I am reasonably sure that the infestation I found is isolated. Of
course, there is no way I can be sure of this. Base on this, I will ask
several companies to come out and inspect my problem, all of them provide
free estimates. So I will rely on their inspection to steer me.
Yesterday, I saw a termite flying in the hallway. About 12 feet from the
door of the closet from which the original infestation was found. I guess
it is trying to break free and land somewhere else. I don't know where it
will land but if another one had hand behind a door, or up the AC duct or
somewhere else, I will have another colony there soon.
I will report back my findings. I have one visit lined up on Friday from
Terminix, and two visits on Saturday from local termite companies.
MC
"Hawaii Fumigation" <hawaiifumigation@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1118359340.220422.83640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> Okay, let me try this again. This is not verbatim of the original
> message I sent but I thought I'd post this info for everyone else to
> read if they were interested.
>
>
> The primary objective of an inspection is to establish the extent of
> problems/infestations that are affecting the home. This discovery then
> serves as a catalyst to establishing the proper treatment and/or
> treatment options.
>
> Tent fumigation WITH VIKANE will require that the occupants of the home
> protect their consumables with Nylofume bags, which should be provided
> by the fumigation company. Items that must be protected are those that
> will be ingested and do not have an air-tight factory seal. The
> occupants must also vacate the structure for (typically) 2 to 3 days.
>
> Because Vikane is a gas, it does not interact with solids and does not
> penetrate or contaminate liquids. Upon removal of the tarps, any
> remaining levels of gas dissipates into open air leaving absolutely no
> residual behind. Because of its mode of action, it is not required or
> necessary to wipe down surfaces or wash linens, clothing, dishware,
> toys, etc. once the fumigation is complete.
>
> Spot treatment using Premise Foam or Termidor is an excellent choice
> providing that it can be determined that your infestation is isolated
> and/or confined to a minimal area. However, this type of treatment is
> limited. Although these products offer non-repellency and a transfer
> effect, it should not be relied upon to achieve complete eradication.
>
> Why you ask? Because drywood termites are elusive and can go
> undetected for years. Additionally, once established within a home,
> they often splinter and multiple colonies are formed. Those splinter
> colonies can and will spread to other areas within the home, near and
> far from the originating site. Furthermore, drywood termite galleries
> are comprised of a series of branches and tunnels. When colonies
> splinter, it is not uncommon for the splinter colony to move through a
> tunnel and seal it off from the remaining branches, thus separating
> them entirely from the originating colony. In the event that these
> spot treatment products are delivered, the product may only expand as
> far (in either direction) as the seal off point. In such a scenario
> where multiple colonies exist within a nearby vicinity, only one colony
> in the area would likely be controlled since the other colony is sealed
> off from the treated area and has no physical contact with the infected
> colony. Finally, because the gallery tunnels are not visible there is
> no way to ensure that a treating product is deliverable to all active
> branches within a gallery.
>
> It is important for consumers to note the elusiveness of the drywood
> termite. Typically, by the time visible evidence such as droppings are
> found, it can be reasonably assessed that the termites causing those
> droppings have been present in that vicinity for at least 1.5 to 2
> years. This then begs the question as to whether other colonies have
> splintered or formed within that same time period and further amplifies
> the fact that termite activity has occurred undetected and may continue
> doing so in areas that are not readily visible or accessible.
>
> Spot treatment is definitely a viable option under certain
> circumstances. This approach also holds the benefit of being more
> economically feasible and less intrusive on the occupants of a home.
> However, choosing this treatment approach also comes with the need for
> the homeowner to understand its limitations and the potential risk that
> other undetected colonies may be present and unaffected by the
> treatment attempt.
>
> Comparatively, tent fumigation allows for 100% eradication of existing
> drywood termites throughout the structure for both detected and
> undetected colonies. On the other hand, tent fumigation requires the
> inconvenience of vacating the home and can be quite costly.
>
>
> With all of that said, the "best" treatment approach for drywood
> termite control depends on two factors.
>
> 1. The extent of infestation(s) affecting the home
> 2. The level of control you want to achieve or limitations you are
> willing to accept
>
> Aloha!
> CP
>
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| I would go with the local companies more than I would the nationals. It is
just a personal opinion, others may disagree and if they do that is fine
they are entitled to their opinions. But the local companies are more prone
to be customer oriented and will take your job more personally, not just as
a completion going towards a budget they need to make a monthly goal. Ask
for referrals from friends and neighbors that have had to have fumigation
work done, that will be your best source of reliable Pest Control Operators
to choose from. Someone posted a link to the IPCOnetwork.org exterminator
referral list and there were a few on there that are very good companies to
deal with. I say a few because not all of them come into Miami. All of the
ones listed there in Florida were excellent companies but only a couple were
close to you. Check it out and maybe you can find someone there. I really
hope you get this taken care of. Please keep us updated on the progress.
--
I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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