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| Harmonica Lover 2005-06-16, 2:33 pm |
| About 12 years ago we discovered some termites in treated wood
landscaping timbers. We called out a local termite company that had a
great local reputation and they treated and we got rid of all
landscaping timbers.
They also had a deal that if you pay 10% a year of the contract they
would come out once a year, inspect (we live in central Indiana) and
treat if necessary. A few years afterwards the company sold out to a
national chain franchise. This yearly renewal fee keeps climbing. It
is now about 25% of the initial treatment cost. Which is kind of
irritating. Especially since every year when they come out and do an
inspection they give the arm twist to purchasing something else such as
a new crawl space door only $400.00 (piece of painted steel with latch)
or insulating the floor, etc., etc., etc.
Now I'm starting to wonder just what to expect should they discover an
infestation of termites at some time in the future. We really don't
have a signed contract with them. We have been paying the annual fee,
but........may we become the butt....... of unscrupulous business
practices.
My wife recently called several independent pest control folks for
estimates and found that they charge about 8 times what we are currently
paying for the annual contract with the franchise company. I am giving
serious thought to canceling the current annual contract and doing my
own inspections of looking for termite activity in the crawl space and
garage, and perhaps using a bait detection system, until we discover
that we have a problem.
The independents in the area charge the 10% renewal fee. The down side
of this naturally is that another independent could end up going out of
business or selling to a franchise and we do this exercise all over again.
So I'm looking for suggested thoughts etc. that I haven't delineated
above. Your input would be much appreciated.
Thanks much,
Jim
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| timatterminix 2005-06-21, 12:25 pm |
| Saw this post and just wanted to respond with some thoughts i have..
First, everything eventually goes up in price. Economic conditions change
over time, and companies need to change with them. Sometimes this may
involve controlling cost by implementing new technologies or other means to
increase efficiancy or to provide better service. Computers, bait sytems,
and increased training over the last decade in this industry have definitly
played a role. As far as price is concerned, just compare the cost of 1oz of
active ingredient of any of the popular bait sytems to 1oz of Chlordane,
Demon TC, or Dursban. Immediatly you see a difference. Beyond that, workers
demand insurance, vacation time, new equipment, etc. My point is this.
Many factors conrol the business environment, but i dont think it is their
intent to run off customers over a few dollars. Most of the larger
companies are more intrested in volume.
Second, what is wrong with a company rep. offering other related service
that he provides. All you have to say is no or that you are not interested.
Most people in this industry are paid on some kind of commission and wont
bother spending much time hounding you if you are not going to buy. Also,
look at this scenario. A company is providing you pest control service for
many years and never bothers to offer you a termite inpection or service.
Then you sell your house and discover some kind of infestation and damage
which scares of a buyer or eats up your equity. I dont know about you, but
I'd be kinda upset that someone who could have prevented this was coming to
my house regularly and never bother to ask me. Another scenario might be a
termite inspection service not telling you about a moisture problem in the
crawlspace found during their inspection. Lord forbide they should inform
you and try to sell you a related service.
Thanks.
"Harmonica Lover" <no.reply@no.reply.com> wrote in message
news:PeGre.58967$xm3.46881@attbi_s21...
quote:
> About 12 years ago we discovered some termites in treated wood landscaping
> timbers. We called out a local termite company that had a great local
> reputation and they treated and we got rid of all landscaping timbers.
>
> They also had a deal that if you pay 10% a year of the contract they would
> come out once a year, inspect (we live in central Indiana) and treat if
> necessary. A few years afterwards the company sold out to a national
> chain franchise. This yearly renewal fee keeps climbing. It is now about
> 25% of the initial treatment cost. Which is kind of irritating.
> Especially since every year when they come out and do an inspection they
> give the arm twist to purchasing something else such as a new crawl space
> door only $400.00 (piece of painted steel with latch) or insulating the
> floor, etc., etc., etc.
>
> Now I'm starting to wonder just what to expect should they discover an
> infestation of termites at some time in the future. We really don't have
> a signed contract with them. We have been paying the annual fee,
> but........may we become the butt....... of unscrupulous business
> practices.
>
> My wife recently called several independent pest control folks for
> estimates and found that they charge about 8 times what we are currently
> paying for the annual contract with the franchise company. I am giving
> serious thought to canceling the current annual contract and doing my own
> inspections of looking for termite activity in the crawl space and garage,
> and perhaps using a bait detection system, until we discover that we have
> a problem.
>
> The independents in the area charge the 10% renewal fee. The down side of
> this naturally is that another independent could end up going out of
> business or selling to a franchise and we do this exercise all over again.
>
> So I'm looking for suggested thoughts etc. that I haven't delineated
> above. Your input would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks much,
> Jim
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-06-21, 11:26 pm |
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On 21-Jun-2005, "timatterminix" <tim101@sc.rr.com> wrote:
quote:
> Saw this post and just wanted to respond with some thoughts i have..
>
> First, everything eventually goes up in price. Economic conditions change
>
> over time, and companies need to change with them. Sometimes this may
> involve controlling cost by implementing new technologies or other means
> to
> increase efficiancy or to provide better service. Computers, bait sytems,
> and increased training over the last decade in this industry have
> definitly
> played a role. As far as price is concerned, just compare the cost of 1oz
> of
> active ingredient of any of the popular bait sytems to 1oz of Chlordane,
> Demon TC, or Dursban. Immediatly you see a difference. Beyond that,
> workers
> demand insurance, vacation time, new equipment, etc. My point is this.
> Many factors conrol the business environment, but i dont think it is their
>
> intent to run off customers over a few dollars. Most of the larger
> companies are more intrested in volume.
Wow you have hit the nail on the head with this statement, "Most of the
larger companies are more interested in volume." There could not be more
true words that have been spoken in this NG. That is also why they are
always trying to sell additional services, to get the volume. I just did a
vent job on a house where the people called me all the vents they had
weren't working, a National company had installed 14 vents in this house
when all that was needed was 8 due to a dead air space. Had it not been for
the dead air space 6 would have done just fine. This is the kind of stuff I
am talking about VOLUME. How about selling a job to flip insulation under a
house that has been in the house for 30 years? If it has been there that
long why flip it now there will be no real benefit from it even the
insulation manufacturers will tell you so, but again we need the VOLUME so
sell sell sell. Yes you have hit the nail on the head the larger companies
are more concerned with volume than they are with honesty and integrity.
Sell the people what they need. If there is a moisture condition sell them a
fix for it, but don't sell them a moisture job, blown insulation for the
attic, wrapping the waterpipes, and ductwork, dusting the crawlspace, and a
$400.00 crawldoor and tell them it takes all of that to rid the moisture
problem.
quote:
>
> Second, what is wrong with a company rep. offering other related service
> that he provides. All you have to say is no or that you are not
> interested.
> Most people in this industry are paid on some kind of commission and wont
> bother spending much time hounding you if you are not going to buy.
Are you not in sales? Have you not seen a sales person do followup calls?
They call and call and call until you basically tell them never to call
again. They hound the hell out of you trying to get you to buy that job so
they can make their budget so they will get their weekend off or so they
will make it to the next level of commission and the manager will make his
budget and get his bonus. Hounding is part of a salesman's job. If anyone
believes for a minute that they don't call you back numerous times you are
sadly mistaken, the sales manager or the branch manager will ask you about
each "proposal" a salesman gives and when was the last time the person was
called, this goes on at all of the bigger companies, I have worked for them
all and I know they way they work, that is why I am now happily now self
employeed and doing what my customers want and what they expect and what
they need. I am not interested in volume I am interested in my customers
needs. I take care of their needs and they will tell their friends and it
builds from there.
Also,
quote:
>
> look at this scenario. A company is providing you pest control service
> for
> many years and never bothers to offer you a termite inpection or service.
> Then you sell your house and discover some kind of infestation and damage
> which scares of a buyer or eats up your equity. I dont know about you,
> but
> I'd be kinda upset that someone who could have prevented this was coming
> to
> my house regularly and never bother to ask me. Another scenario might be
> a
> termite inspection service not telling you about a moisture problem in the
>
> crawlspace found during their inspection. Lord forbide they should inform
> you and try to sell you a related service.
>
> Thanks.
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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