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| I'm contemplating doing some more spraying for bed bugs (assuming I find I
have any still - not sure on that score, though slightly suspicious) this
time using Suspend SC. So have these questions, (some of which I've asked
about other insecticides). I'd be using the .03%, the lower end of the
range recommended for bed bugs.
How long does Suspend SC last:
1) on carpet
2) on unpainted wood.
3) on painted (latex) wood.
4) on painted drywall
5) on bare metal?
6) on cloth, such as the outside of boxsprings, matresses, cloth
aupholstered furniture, etc.?
Also, it was previously stated that I wouldn't need to air out the house
as this is odorless. Does that mean I can spray one room in the house and
stay in other rooms of the house till it dries? In other words, will this
circulate or once the spray hits the surface, the deltamethrin stays put?
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| In article <pan.2005.08.24.12.56.27.871730@nowhere.com>,
none@nowhere.com says...
 I'm contemplating doing some more spraying for bed bugs (assuming I find I
have any still - not sure on that score, though slightly suspicious) this
time using Suspend SC. So have these questions, (some of which I've asked
about other insecticides). I'd be using the .03%, the lower end of the
range recommended for bed bugs.
How long does Suspend SC last:
1) on carpet
2) on unpainted wood.
3) on painted (latex) wood.
4) on painted drywall
5) on bare metal?
6) on cloth, such as the outside of boxsprings, matresses, cloth
aupholstered furniture, etc.?
Also, it was previously stated that I wouldn't need to air out the house
as this is odorless. Does that mean I can spray one room in the house and
stay in other rooms of the house till it dries? In other words, will this
circulate or once the spray hits the surface, the deltamethrin stays put?
If I recall one of the other insecticides you were asking about was
Demand CS. Suspend will be comparable to that...it should stay where
you place it and you won't need to leave the home if you don't want to.
Just keep kids and pets out of the room till it dries.
--
Lar
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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In article <pan.2005.08.24.12.56.27.871730@nowhere.com>,bob says...
> I'm contemplating doing some more spraying for bed bugs (assuming I
> :find I ) have any still - not sure on that score, though slightly
> :suspicious) this ) time using Suspend SC. So have these questions,
>  some of which I've asked ) about other insecticides). I'd be using
> :the .03%, the lower end of the ) range recommended for bed bugs. )
> How long does Suspend SC last:
>
> 1) on carpet
>
> 2) on unpainted wood.
>
> 3) on painted (latex) wood.
>
> 4) on painted drywall
>
> 5) on bare metal?
>
> 6) on cloth, such as the outside of boxsprings, matresses, cloth )
> :aupholstered furniture, etc.?
>
> Also, it was previously stated that I wouldn't need to air out the
> :house ) as this is odorless. Does that mean I can spray one room in
> :the house and ) stay in other rooms of the house till it dries? In
> :other words, will this ) circulate or once the spray hits the surface,
> :the deltamethrin stays put? )
>
>
>
Then, On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:15:48 -0500, Lar wrote:
> If I recall one of the other insecticides you were asking about was
> Demand CS. Suspend will be comparable to that...it should stay where
> you place it and you won't need to leave the home if you don't want to.
> Just keep kids and pets out of the room till it dries.
Lar,
Thank you very much. THat is very re-assuring.
I'm looking at Suspend instead of Demand because Suspend appears to be
labbelled for use almost anywhere - matresses, upholsetry, etc, whereas
Demand isn't. So I can use it on the sofa or mattress and boxspring if
these things return. (So far no bites for several weeks.)
Right now, though I'm only looking at certain areas of carpet plus the
inside of my clothes closet. There is a painted sheet-metal shelf in the
closet. Do you think that Suspend will stay put on that shelf after it
dries or is it it just going to blow around?
Thanks again.
- Bob
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-08-27, 8:23 pm |
| Personally I use Suspend as mu chemical of choice for most applications. It
is a good all around chemical and it works for many different insects and
applications. The label is very friendly allowing it to be used in many
locations as well. It will stay where you put it once dried. There are so
many great products on the market today and Suspend is one close to the top
in my opinion.
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:00:30 +0000, bug wrote:
> Personally I use Suspend as mu chemical of choice for most applications.
> It is a good all around chemical and it works for many different insects
> and applications. The label is very friendly allowing it to be used in
> many locations as well. It will stay where you put it once dried. There
> are so many great products on the market today and Suspend is one close
> to the top in my opinion.
Tim,
Thanks for the good info. I did a lot of laebel reading and noticed that
Suspend seemed lablled for more locations than Tempo or Demand, that's why
I was looking at it and also had pretty good rtesidual.
Just out of curiosity, you say that "Suspend is one close to the top" -
what's on the top of your list and why? Should I use that instead or is
it labelled in a more restrictive fashion?
Thanks again,
- Bob
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-08-27, 8:23 pm |
| The only one that would really be above it is not labeled for indoor use. I
was speaking in terms of all the products I use in general for both inside
and outside use. Suspend is my choice for indoor use for general pest
control. If it is ants then Phantom is my choice but Phantom is not labeled
for bedbugs. There are many other insects that I use other products on
besides Suspend but for general Pest Control and for maintenance services
that is the product I choose.
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| On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:11:36 +0000, bug wrote:
> The only one that would really be above it is not labeled for indoor use. I
> was speaking in terms of all the products I use in general for both inside
> and outside use. Suspend is my choice for indoor use for general pest
> control. If it is ants then Phantom is my choice but Phantom is not labeled
> for bedbugs. There are many other insects that I use other products on
> besides Suspend but for general Pest Control and for maintenance services
> that is the product I choose.
Great info, once again.
And of course "no good deed goes unpunished" so: if I mix a tank of
Suspend SC and Gentrol, how long can I keep it it before use?
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-08-28, 3:23 pm |
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On 27-Aug-2005, "bob" <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
> And of course "no good deed goes unpunished" so: if I mix a tank of
> Suspend SC and Gentrol, how long can I keep it it before use?
I don't have a Suspend Label handy right now so I am completely guess on
this one and the reason for that is because I never leave it for more than
overnight. I would say a few days would be the most but when you go to use
it agitate it real well before use each time. Now I must say the label may
say you can keep it longer than that and if anyone has a label they can
certainly correct me. Maybe Lar will have one. Mine are in my truck and the
truck in in the shop, sorry.
--
I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:20:46 +0000, bug wrote:
> On 27-Aug-2005, "bob" <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
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<snip>
> I never leave it for more than
> overnight. I would say a few days would be the most but when you go to
> use it agitate it real well before use each time. Now I must say the
> label may say you can keep it longer than that and if anyone has a label
> they can certainly correct me. Maybe Lar will have one. Mine are in my
> truck and the truck in in the shop, sorry.
Thanks. I have spryaed a test area, to see if I have any sensitivity. I
still can't get used to the 'coarse spray setting", so I ended up using
more than would be recommended for the test area, though less than the
maximum for the apartment as a whole. I mixed up a quart of solution
diluted to about .03% and ended up inadvertently using much of it on
carpet in less than a 100 sq ft area (whereas the label says you could go
as high as a gallon at .06% for a 1000 sq ft - my whole apt is around 900
sq ft.). The studies I've found,
http://extoxnet.orst.edu/pips/deltamet.htm
based on animal studies, indicate I could have *drunk* it all and probably
survived, so I'm probably OK, in spite of overdoing it a bit..
Airing the place out with fans now due to very slight odor, plus to
encourage the carpet to dry - I got it pretty damp.
Thanks for all the help.
I often (always?) seem underestimate the amount I'm using at any given
time. (I partially compensate by staying at the low end of the
concentrations recommended.) How do I avoid this - is it just practice?
Is there some formula like how many feet per second you move the wand when
your using a specific sprayer? I'm tempted to fill the tank with just
water and play around to "calibrate" myself.
I'm beginning to think that the do-it-tyouself approach is not for me. (As
in "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you".)
Thanks again.
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| bugs@bugs.com 2005-08-28, 5:21 pm |
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On 28-Aug-2005, "bob" <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I often (always?) seem underestimate the amount I'm using at any given
> time. (I partially compensate by staying at the low end of the
> concentrations recommended.) How do I avoid this - is it just practice?
> Is there some formula like how many feet per second you move the wand when
> your using a specific sprayer? I'm tempted to fill the tank with just
> water and play around to "calibrate" myself.
Yes it is practice and also knowing your equipment. You have to know how
much will spray out when using different settings, or at least have a good
idea. The part about filling your sprayer with water and practicing is a
good idea you could also measure off an area outside and see how long it
would take to properly treat it using different settings. Say mark off a 100
sq ft area 10 x 10 and treat it using the label rate and only put that much
in the sprayer when you are empty you will be able to know an appx time if
it took you say 15 seconds or 45 seconds or however long it took you to
treat that area. Then you could transfer that to just about any
location/situation you come upon. Another way to calibrate your sprayer is
to fill it with a half gallon of water and time how long it takes to empty
it. Double that time and you will have the amount of time required to spray
a gallon of mix.
I hope this helps.
--
I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| Am I likely to have any problems due to the higher than recommended
concentration in the area I did spray?
Thansk again for all your help.
The following look like things I will try if I contiunue on the DIY path.
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:14:25 +0000, bug wrote:
>
> <snip>
> The part about filling your sprayer with water and practicing is a
> good idea you could also measure off an area outside and see how long it
> would take to properly treat it using different settings. Say mark off a 100
> sq ft area 10 x 10 and treat it using the label rate and only put that much
> in the sprayer when you are empty you will be able to know an appx time if
> it took you say 15 seconds or 45 seconds or however long it took you to
> treat that area. Then you could transfer that to just about any
> location/situation you come upon. Another way to calibrate your sprayer is
> to fill it with a half gallon of water and time how long it takes to empty
> it. Double that time and you will have the amount of time required to spray
> a gallon of mix.
>
> I hope this helps.
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| In article <pan.2005.08.28.20.57.29.162590@nowhere.com>,
none@nowhere.com says...
Am I likely to have any problems due to the higher than recommended
concentration in the area I did spray?
Thansk again for all your help.
The following look like things I will try if I contiunue on the DIY path.
The quart containing .03% mixure probably has enough deltamethrin to
have a 50% chance to kill a 5-6 lb animal if it were to drink the whole
quart.
--
Lar
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:35:35 -0500, Lar wrote:
> The quart containing .03% mixure probably has enough deltamethrin to
> have a 50% chance to kill a 5-6 lb animal if it were to drink the whole
> quart.
Thanks for pointing that out.
But yet another question: the area that got most (though not all) of that
quart turns out to be more like 30 sq ft. (I *really* need to learn to use
that sprayer better) - is it safe to have contact with that even after
drying? Would it be OK to toss clothes on that carpet if they were
getting laudered afterward?
Anything to to do to treat this, or should I cover it with throw rugs or
am I worrying about nothing?
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