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Air Devil vs. Raid
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| I recently purchased Demand CS to spray inside and outside my house to ward
off any bugs wanting to come around and visit. It was suggested to me
because it had a good residual effect and killed almost everything i have a
problem with--wasps, carpenter bees, millipedes, spiders, and in the fall
the dreaded ladybug invasion. (Plus if I can keep bugs away from the house,
I'm hoping the tree frogs won't come around and keep me up all night.)
It was also suggested that I get Air Devil for any immediate problems and
to spray around the windows when the ladybugs come.
The Air Devil has a .1% solution of cypermethrin. When I looked at Raid And
and Roach Killer, it too had a cypermethrin at .1%. The Raid is less than
1/3 the price of the Air Devil. On my next purchase, is there a reason why
I should pay more for the Air Devil or replace it with Raid? TIA
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| valuepest@gmail.com 2006-03-28, 11:21 am |
| Often, the over-the-counter products such as Raid have the same active
ingredient at the same concentration. If you have found that, just use
the Raid. But why use another product other than the Demand? Demand
will give you better residual.
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| In article <0%3Wf.44574$915.1239@southeast.rr.com>, nospamfbrown627
@nc.rr.com says...
 I recently purchased Demand CS to spray inside and outside my house to ward
off any bugs wanting to come around and visit. It was suggested to me
because it had a good residual effect and killed almost everything i have a
problem with--wasps, carpenter bees, millipedes, spiders, and in the fall
the dreaded ladybug invasion. (Plus if I can keep bugs away from the house,
I'm hoping the tree frogs won't come around and keep me up all night.)
It was also suggested that I get Air Devil for any immediate problems and
to spray around the windows when the ladybugs come.
The Air Devil has a .1% solution of cypermethrin. When I looked at Raid And
and Roach Killer, it too had a cypermethrin at .1%. The Raid is less than
1/3 the price of the Air Devil. On my next purchase, is there a reason why
I should pay more for the Air Devil or replace it with Raid? TIA
I am unfamiliar with Air devil, but sometimes a product is more
productive in the way it is formulated. I use .1% cypermethrin in my
pest control work, but I would never even try to give a 3 month
guarantee that I have with a can of Raid (maybe 2 weeks of results) If
you are using Demand, there would be no reason to buy/use anything else
though. six weeks after you use it and happen to see "live" insects
where you treated..they will die soon enough.
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Lar
Oh, if only Noah would of been a bit more wise,
he surely would of swatted those two flies.
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| Realistically, how often should I spray the Demand outside to keep the
effect of the pesticide?
I bought the Air-Devil to use sporadically without having to mix a large
amount of Demand.
"Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e93147b145404f1989894@netnews.comcast.net...
> In article <0%3Wf.44574$915.1239@southeast.rr.com>, nospamfbrown627
> @nc.rr.com says...
> I recently purchased Demand CS to spray inside and outside my house to
> ward
> off any bugs wanting to come around and visit. It was suggested to me
> because it had a good residual effect and killed almost everything i
> have a
> problem with--wasps, carpenter bees, millipedes, spiders, and in the
> fall
> the dreaded ladybug invasion. (Plus if I can keep bugs away from the
> house,
> I'm hoping the tree frogs won't come around and keep me up all night.)
>
> It was also suggested that I get Air Devil for any immediate problems
> and
> to spray around the windows when the ladybugs come.
>
> The Air Devil has a .1% solution of cypermethrin. When I looked at
> Raid And
> and Roach Killer, it too had a cypermethrin at .1%. The Raid is less
> than
> 1/3 the price of the Air Devil. On my next purchase, is there a
> reason why
> I should pay more for the Air Devil or replace it with Raid? TIA
>
>
>
> I am unfamiliar with Air devil, but sometimes a product is more
> productive in the way it is formulated. I use .1% cypermethrin in my
> pest control work, but I would never even try to give a 3 month
> guarantee that I have with a can of Raid (maybe 2 weeks of results) If
> you are using Demand, there would be no reason to buy/use anything else
> though. six weeks after you use it and happen to see "live" insects
> where you treated..they will die soon enough.
> --
> Lar
>
> Oh, if only Noah would of been a bit more wise,
> he surely would of swatted those two flies.
>
> to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| In article <6diWf.91070$no3.35330@tornado.southeast.rr.com>,
nospamfbrown627@nc.rr.com says...
Realistically, how often should I spray the Demand outside to keep the
effect of the pesticide?
I bought the Air-Devil to use sporadically without having to mix a large
amount of Demand.
I would think 30-45 days of a good barrier would be present. It will
kill loner than that, but will start to break down. Treating up next to
the home with the liquid, then placing a band out from the house several
feet with a general insect bait will probably give you good results into
the Summer.
--
Lar
Oh, if only Noah would of been a bit more wise,
he surely would of swatted those two flies.
to email....get rid of the BUGS
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| gpsman 2006-04-16, 1:21 am |
| FB wrote:
> I recently purchased Demand CS to spray inside and outside my house to ward
> off any bugs wanting to come around and visit. It was suggested to me
> because it had a good residual effect and killed almost everything i have a
> problem with--wasps, carpenter bees, millipedes, spiders, and in the fall
> the dreaded ladybug invasion. (Plus if I can keep bugs away from the house,
> I'm hoping the tree frogs won't come around and keep me up all night.)
>
> It was also suggested that I get Air Devil for any immediate problems and
> to spray around the windows when the ladybugs come.
>
> The Air Devil has a .1% solution of cypermethrin. When I looked at Raid And
> and Roach Killer, it too had a cypermethrin at .1%. The Raid is less than
> 1/3 the price of the Air Devil. On my next purchase, is there a reason why
> I should pay more for the Air Devil or replace it with Raid? TIA
I wouldn't know Air Devil if you spiked my martini with it... but I do
know that there are many different formulations of identically named
chemicals. For example, there are over 200 different formulations of
cocaine. They're all more or less the same thing, some are more, most
are less.
I call Raid "Liquid Foot". If you can spray that crap on 'em you might
as well just step on 'em... and spend the savings on cocaine.
Your problems seem to me to lie in your lack of experience with the
creatures you're having problems controlling. If you can't do it with
Demand CS you simply "don't know what you're doing", as harsh as that
may sound.
I have no suggestions other than better educating yourself.
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- gpsman
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| bugs@bugs.com 2006-04-18, 2:21 am |
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On 15-Apr-2006, "gpsman" <gpsman@driversmail.com> wrote:
> I call Raid "Liquid Foot". If you can spray that crap on 'em you might
> as well just step on 'em... and spend the savings on cocaine.
I wouldn't recommend that to anyone, much less a consumer that is coming
here looking for advice and does not know anything about Pest Control or
Pests. To recommend they spend their money on cocaine is just plain stupid,
why would you do such a thing? There is only one reason that I can think of.
To the original poster;
The formulation of Raid and Demand are completely different. Demand will
last much longer and even though the Raid may seem to be cheaper at first to
get the same amount of time out of it that you will get out of Demand you
will use can after can after can so you will probably end up spending more
on the Raid. The raid is not going to last you much more than a week if even
that. The Demand will last 60 to 90 days in many instances. When the Asian
Lady Beetles do come it is to late to spray, you need to spray before they
come, so spray in September and be ready for them when they come in Late
October, early November. I would forget about the Raid and use the demand
outside like Lar told you to do and you will have much more success.
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| gpsman 2006-04-18, 10:21 am |
| bugs@bugs.com wrote: <brevity snip>
> "gpsman" wrote:
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> I wouldn't recommend that to anyone, much less a consumer that is coming
> here looking for advice and does not know anything about Pest Control or
> Pests. To recommend they spend their money on cocaine is just plain stupid,
> why would you do such a thing? There is only one reason that I can think of.
If you don't think too good... it's probably best you don't bother
thinking much.
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- gpsman
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| Thanks for your answer. I do realize there is a difference between Demand
and Raid. I was trying to find the difference between Air Devil and Raid.
The indredients and percentages seem the same.
Here's another question: which would be better against the lady asian
beetles and anything else for that matter: Demand CS or Demon WP? I have
both.
<bugs@bugs.com> wrote in message news:e5adnfHcS9Jc8tnZRVn-uw@adelphia.com...
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> On 15-Apr-2006, "gpsman" <gpsman@driversmail.com> wrote:
>
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> I wouldn't recommend that to anyone, much less a consumer that is coming
> here looking for advice and does not know anything about Pest Control or
> Pests. To recommend they spend their money on cocaine is just plain
> stupid,
> why would you do such a thing? There is only one reason that I can think
> of.
>
> To the original poster;
> The formulation of Raid and Demand are completely different. Demand will
> last much longer and even though the Raid may seem to be cheaper at first
> to
> get the same amount of time out of it that you will get out of Demand you
> will use can after can after can so you will probably end up spending more
> on the Raid. The raid is not going to last you much more than a week if
> even
> that. The Demand will last 60 to 90 days in many instances. When the Asian
> Lady Beetles do come it is to late to spray, you need to spray before they
> come, so spray in September and be ready for them when they come in Late
> October, early November. I would forget about the Raid and use the demand
> outside like Lar told you to do and you will have much more success.
>
> --
> I wish you all the best
> Tim Wise
>
> www.onepest.com
> www.askourpros.com
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| In article <ZT71g.7523$Qe6.1216@tornado.southeast.rr.com>,
nospamfbrown627@nc.rr.com says...
Here's another question: which would be better against the lady asian
beetles and anything else for that matter: Demand CS or Demon WP? I have
both.
My preference is the Demon WP, though you may get a visible residue on
the siding you might not get with the Demand. I like the repellency of
cypermethrin over the Demand.
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| bugs@bugs.com 2006-04-19, 12:21 am |
| I like the Demon WP but the residue is a problem if you aren't careful and I
think Demand will last longer.
--
I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| In article <QxQ1g.1923$cs4.45@southeast.rr.com>, nospamfbrown627
@nc.rr.com says...
I'm only going to use one product, but how often should I spray the outside
of my house with either the Demon WP or the Demand? I know the Demand is
supposed to last longer.
I also usually spray right as the sun is coming up rather than after the sun
goes down. I like to see what I'm doing.....
I'd cut either product half it's rate listed and will probably get 30
days out them. I use a cypermethrin product at .05% for my mosquito
spraying and I expect 30-45 days good results, the WP demon will
probably last longer than what I use. For just a maintenance spraying
every 60 days should work fine.
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| gpsman 2006-04-20, 10:21 pm |
| valuepest@gmail.com wrote:
> Often, the over-the-counter products such as Raid have the same active
> ingredient at the same concentration. If you have found that, just use
> the Raid.
They're different formulations, primarily different in their
persistance. And necessarily so since the average consumer will
conclude, if some is good, more is better. Raid's residual is pretty
much exhausted as soon as it dries, surely no more than 24 hours.
> But why use another product other than the Demand? Demand
> will give you better residual.
For the same reason. This average consumer is obviously without a
Label, or can't read.
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- gpsman
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