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| We are being overrun by spiders. If it wouldn't be paranoid, I'd think they
were out to get me :-).
We live in SE Arizona in a residential neighborhood that has a ton of open
space and natural areas. It's like Wild Kingdom out here, I swear.
Will having pest control help with my spiders, or is there something I can
do myself to stop this? I am almost 100% positive that one of the spiders,
the biggest problem, is one of the recluse spiders common to the area. I
have caught one and await Truly Nolen's verdict, but I compared this guy to
pictures on the web and he matches. I couldn't get my magnifying glass to
help me see if he has three pairs of eyes instead of four, but he looks just
like them and has the violin and all. These spiders also live exclusively
in drawers, cabinets, under furniture, etc. They come out at night and
wander around on the floor just waiting for me to step on them...ugh!
Here are some preventative steps we're taking:
1. We had our house repainted last year and had them caulk and seal all
exterior cracks. That cut down a lot on our cricket infestation, but the
spiders are just as bad as ever if not worse. Not to mention the scorpions,
of which we've seen a few.
2. I'm having all of our doors re-weatherstripped and possibly rehung (the
builder was an idiot, apparently) because there is light coming in around
them.
3. Put down glue traps underneath all raised furniture.
Is there anything else we can do? These guys don't seek us out (thus the
recluse name), but I really don't want to risk my daughter being bitten.
Geckos? We have a cat, and he helps with things, but he can't be everywhere
at once.
TIA for any advice,
Dawn
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| In article <128ehg6jikjva4a@news.supernews.com>, im_out_there_20
@yahoo.com says...
 3. Put down glue traps underneath all raised furniture.
Is there anything else we can do? These guys don't seek us out (thus the
recluse name), but I really don't want to risk my daughter being bitten.
Geckos? We have a cat, and he helps with things, but he can't be everywhere
at once.
here is pic http://arrow-pestcontrol.com/brownrecluse.jpg
This one's leg span was larger than a nickel, maybe not quite as large
as a quarter...
Make sure you have glue boards against the baseboard too. The pros would
be able to treat with products that effect the spiders better than what
you will get. I usually see a great reduction of spiders in problem
areas just not always total elimination. Recluses attach their egg sacs
to structure and is a half globe rather than a round sac in a gob of
spider web. An inspection of the underside of the furniture may be
helpful to you.
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Lar
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| Happybattles 2006-06-07, 10:21 pm |
| Brown recluse aren't common to Arizona. We do have a cousin called the
Arizona Brown Spider though. The effect of the bite is very similar,
but not nearly as bad as the brown recluse.
You seem to be doing everything right, though. Good job on that!
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"Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ef11c97708380d09898d8@netnews.comcast.net...
> In article <128ehg6jikjva4a@news.supernews.com>, im_out_there_20
> @yahoo.com says...
> 3. Put down glue traps underneath all raised furniture.
>
> Is there anything else we can do? These guys don't seek us out (thus
> the
> recluse name), but I really don't want to risk my daughter being
> bitten.
> Geckos? We have a cat, and he helps with things, but he can't be
> everywhere
> at once.
>
>
> here is pic http://arrow-pestcontrol.com/brownrecluse.jpg
> This one's leg span was larger than a nickel, maybe not quite as large
> as a quarter...
>
> Make sure you have glue boards against the baseboard too. The pros would
> be able to treat with products that effect the spiders better than what
> you will get. I usually see a great reduction of spiders in problem
> areas just not always total elimination. Recluses attach their egg sacs
> to structure and is a half globe rather than a round sac in a gob of
> spider web. An inspection of the underside of the furniture may be
> helpful to you.
> --
> Lar
Yep, that's my buddy. I had a staring contest with him today since he's
still alive in our bug vacuum. We'd been doing a vacuum and release program,
but now it's war!
We have those suckers all over our house, I kid you not. I'm a clean
person, very organized, no clutter, but for some reason these things think
our home is recluse Club Med. Ours should not be the brown recluse, but one
of its cousins, the Tucson recluse, Arizona recluse, or Desert recluse, all
of which are native to this area.
I'm just thrilled. Yes, their egg sacs are half globes, and I usually find
them on the underside of drawers. Once I was cleaning out a chest of
drawers that had been in the garage and found six egg sacs and mama spiders.
I've found three in drawers (inside the house) just as I'm about to stick my
hand in, and countless spiders just wandering around the house at night and
occasionally in broad daylight (though that's usually in the family room
which has dark curtains on the windows). What in the heck is the problem
here? Clearly, we need a predator for these spiders :-).
The pros have told me that they cannot treat for spiders well because they
walk over the poisons. They suggested glue traps.
Thanks so much. You're very nice to help me.
Dawn
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| gpsman 2006-06-08, 12:21 am |
| Dawn wrote: <brevity snip>
> The pros have told me that they cannot treat for spiders well because they
> walk over the poisons. They suggested glue traps.
Yer "pros" are yahoos.
That said, vacuum, vacuum, vacuum. Or find a real pro who will treat
your property for spiders. I don't *know* Truly Nolan, but they have a
pretty good rep. I would have worked for them before they became so
"corporate".
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- gpsman
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| In article <128f3s2qsgaem29@news.supernews.com>, im_out_there_20
@yahoo.com says...
The pros have told me that they cannot treat for spiders well because they
walk over the poisons. They suggested glue traps.
They need to use a product that is Micro encapsulated... sort of like
tiny water balloons that burst so they place "wet insecticide" on the
critters...Suspend SC and Demand CS work well on spider/scorpions. You
will still find larger spiders about that will hopefully be dead the
next time you come across them, but you will definitely find more dead
ones than you are seeing now.
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Lar
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"Lar" <larflu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ef11c97708380d09898d8@netnews.comcast.net...
> In article <128ehg6jikjva4a@news.supernews.com>, im_out_there_20
> @yahoo.com says...
> 3. Put down glue traps underneath all raised furniture.
>
> Is there anything else we can do? These guys don't seek us out (thus
> the
> recluse name), but I really don't want to risk my daughter being
> bitten.
> Geckos? We have a cat, and he helps with things, but he can't be
> everywhere
> at once.
>
>
> here is pic http://arrow-pestcontrol.com/brownrecluse.jpg
> This one's leg span was larger than a nickel, maybe not quite as large
> as a quarter...
>
> Make sure you have glue boards against the baseboard too. The pros would
> be able to treat with products that effect the spiders better than what
> you will get. I usually see a great reduction of spiders in problem
> areas just not always total elimination. Recluses attach their egg sacs
> to structure and is a half globe rather than a round sac in a gob of
> spider web. An inspection of the underside of the furniture may be
> helpful to you.
> --
> Lar
Yep, that's my buddy. I had a staring contest with him today since he's
still alive in our bug vacuum. We'd been doing a vacuum and release program,
but now it's war!
We have those suckers all over our house, I kid you not. I'm a clean
person, very organized, no clutter, but for some reason these things think
our home is recluse Club Med. Ours should not be the brown recluse, but one
of its cousins, the Tucson recluse, Arizona recluse, or Desert recluse, all
of which are native to this area.
I'm just thrilled. Yes, their egg sacs are half globes, and I usually find
them on the underside of drawers. Once I was cleaning out a chest of
drawers that had been in the garage and found six egg sacs and mama spiders.
I've found three in drawers (inside the house) just as I'm about to stick my
hand in, and countless spiders just wandering around the house at night and
occasionally in broad daylight (though that's usually in the family room
which has dark curtains on the windows). What in the heck is the problem
here? Clearly, we need a predator for these spiders :-).
The pros have told me that they cannot treat for spiders well because they
walk over the poisons. They suggested glue traps.
Thanks so much. You're very nice to help me.
Dawn
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| valuepest@gmail.com 2006-06-08, 10:21 am |
| The exterminator needs to use a good dust in all void areas, such as
wall voids behind switch plates and the like. A treatment with Cy Kick
CS or Demand CS will also help, but you NEED a lot of sticky traps -
glueboards. Here in Kansas, we have Brown Recluse Spiders in nearly
every home - treated one the other day that had 17 live ones trapped in
a bath tub. Sticky traps will also help with scorpions.
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| Happybattles 2006-06-08, 1:21 pm |
| Real spider control is just in it's infancy since DDT and the other
really good products are gone.
Now, micro-encapsulated products and specificly Bifenthrin are the best
for spiders.
Truly Nolen doesn't usually treat the inside of homes with liquid, but
there are exceptions to every rule.
There are products available they can use, and do have, which will
help... but killing spiders is a rather slow process. That's because
they hide in spaces not normally treated, or even in spaces which
CANNOT be treated except with a fogger, like inside the computer you're
typing on right now.. :O
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| Happybattles 2006-06-08, 1:21 pm |
| Also - glueboards are a great idea, because since they are "active
hunters", they will need to move around to find food. A caught spider
is just as good as a dead spider. No more breeding from any spider
caught in a glueboard.
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<valuepest@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The exterminator needs to use a good dust in all void areas, such as
> wall voids behind switch plates and the like. A treatment with Cy Kick
> CS or Demand CS will also help, but you NEED a lot of sticky traps -
> glueboards. Here in Kansas, we have Brown Recluse Spiders in nearly
> every home - treated one the other day that had 17 live ones trapped in
> a bath tub. Sticky traps will also help with scorpions.
>
Thanks for the help. We're going with glue traps and vacuuming since
chemical treatments are not really something we want inside the house, no
matter how safe.
I fear what we'll find on those traps.
Dawn
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"Happybattles" <happybattles@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149782226.458922.13400@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Real spider control is just in it's infancy since DDT and the other
> really good products are gone.
>
> Now, micro-encapsulated products and specificly Bifenthrin are the best
> for spiders.
>
> Truly Nolen doesn't usually treat the inside of homes with liquid, but
> there are exceptions to every rule.
>
> There are products available they can use, and do have, which will
> help... but killing spiders is a rather slow process. That's because
> they hide in spaces not normally treated, or even in spaces which
> CANNOT be treated except with a fogger, like inside the computer you're
> typing on right now.. :O
>
Funny you should mention my computer, since we found one inside the case
when my husband replaced my hard drive :-). Nice!
We're avoiding chemical treatments, but we've launched an all-out assualt on
spiders. We're going to vacuum EVERYWHERE and look under all the furniture
and inside the electrical faceplates and the openings of the ducts, and just
anywhere we can think of. Glue traps galore, too. We're also having someone
come out and make sure every single door is sealed tight and replacing one
door altogether.
I have one of those spiders in a bug vacuum and it's been there since Monday
and it's still alive! How long can those things go without food? I'm
starting to feel guilty and I think it may need a burial at sea.
I was saving it for the pest control guys, but since we're not doing that,
I'm just going to work under the assumption that these are indeed recluse
spiders and go from there.
Dawn
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| Happybattles 2006-06-08, 3:21 pm |
| We'd love to see what you capture, if you have a good digital camera.
Dawn wrote:
> <valuepest@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1149772377.752757.270040@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for the help. We're going with glue traps and vacuuming since
> chemical treatments are not really something we want inside the house, no
> matter how safe.
>
> I fear what we'll find on those traps.
>
> Dawn
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