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Termite Preventitive Measures
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| I had my home inspected and they didn't find any termites but suggested
the liquid defend system to prevent termites in the future. In
addition, I plan to rent out my house and he suggested that I tent the
house now for preventitive measures so it is less likely to do it when
there are renters.
However, I am relectunt to do the liquid defend treatment let alone the
tenting since nothing was found and I don't know how well these systems
work to prevent termites in the future.
I wanted to know from anyone with experience whether these preventitive
measures really help or should I wait till there is something actually
found
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| In article <1150784986.483358.171850@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
erwin.catindig@gmail.com says...
 I had my home inspected and they didn't find any termites but suggested
the liquid defend system to prevent termites in the future. In
addition, I plan to rent out my house and he suggested that I tent the
house now for preventitive measures so it is less likely to do it when
there are renters.
However, I am relectunt to do the liquid defend treatment let alone the
tenting since nothing was found and I don't know how well these systems
work to prevent termites in the future.
I wanted to know from anyone with experience whether these preventitive
measures really help or should I wait till there is something actually
found
I am not one to encourage spending money if there is no activity. By
having the property routinely checked even if termites are eventually
found there shouldn't be any type of structural damage.
There is one liquid termiticide that could be used for sure as a
preventative, all others you pretty much have to do a complete termite
job to keep them out. As far as tenting for preventative, I have never
heard of that and doubt it is even legal to do so. And my understanding
is even after tenting there is no long term residual to keep new
intruders out.
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Lar
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| In article <1150784986.483358.171850@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
erwin.catindig@gmail.com says...
I had my home inspected and they didn't find any termites but suggested
the liquid defend system to prevent termites in the future. In
addition, I plan to rent out my house and he suggested that I tent the
house now for preventitive measures so it is less likely to do it when
there are renters.
However, I am relectunt to do the liquid defend treatment let alone the
tenting since nothing was found and I don't know how well these systems
work to prevent termites in the future.
I wanted to know from anyone with experience whether these preventitive
measures really help or should I wait till there is something actually
found
I am not one to encourage spending money if there is no activity. By
having the property routinely checked even if termites are eventually
found there shouldn't be any type of structural damage.
There is one liquid termiticide that could be used for sure as a
preventative, all others you pretty much have to do a complete termite
job to keep them out. As far as tenting for preventative, I have never
heard of that and doubt it is even legal to do so. And my understanding
is even after tenting there is no long term residual to keep new
intruders out.
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Lar
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| gpsman 2006-06-21, 9:25 am |
| ecat wrote:
> I had my home inspected and they didn't find any termites but suggested
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> the liquid defend system to prevent termites in the future. In
> addition, I plan to rent out my house and he suggested that I tent the
> house now for preventitive measures so it is less likely to do it when
> there are renters.
>
> However, I am relectunt to do the liquid defend treatment let alone the
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> tenting since nothing was found and I don't know how well these systems
>
> work to prevent termites in the future.
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>
> I wanted to know from anyone with experience whether these preventitive
>
> measures really help or should I wait till there is something actually
> found
((It would be really great if homeowners provided a leetle more
information; where they live for example, would be very helpful.
Species vary in different parts of the country.))
>From what I know about tenting, and that ain't much, they don't use
gaseous chemicals anymore, it's just heat. They warm the structure (to
160F or something, for so many minutes/hours) which kills everything,
including any eggs. Obviously, there wouldn't be any residual
prevention effect.
Even with gas I don't see how there could be much, if any
"persistence".
Practically all professional products will kill and prevent termites if
properly applied. A thorough annual treatment of the entire structure
with strict attention to the sill plate/s eaves (from inside the attic)
window sills, utility access points, under the bottom of any siding...
wherever any insect is most likely to find egress "should" be adequate
to prevent an infestation of anything.
I'm not aware of how other PCO's do it but my philosophy for general
insect control is to apply the maximum concentration of material at the
maximum rate in all areas where it's needed and appropiate. And I
charge accordingly. I'm higher than *everybody* by at least a factor
of 2, sometimes 4, sometimes more. But none of my annual clients have
*ever* come down with a case of termites.
The problem I have with post-construction preventative (termite)
treatments is that you never know if they are worth the expense. It
doesn't cost any more to get the treatment once you have termites, so
it seems like kind of a waste of money. Professional termite
prevention, to me, doesn't seem to be an "ounce of prevention"
approach; it's a pound of prevention, or a pound of cure.
In the vast majority of cases termites aren't going to "eat your house
down" or cause any substantial damage for years and they'll often come
and be gone before some homeowners ever notice.
The best prevention strategy, IMO, is environmental; don't create a
good environment for termites and you probably won't get 'em. No wood
(including paper)/grade contact around the house (including and
especially firewood) or construction debris in the crawl space (drywall
contains paper), good drainage, keep the foliage off and from above the
house, etc. and keep an eye out for termite evidence.
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- gpsman
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| Happybattles 2006-06-21, 5:25 pm |
| Actually, they do use gas most of the time. Most homes cannot be heat
treated because of the likelyhood of damaging personal items.
Heat is used on furniture, mainly. And, that's just in metal storage
boxes.
Liquid prevention is a good idea, but as for tenting a house: useless.
Sure, there could be termites there who just haven't shown their ugly
heads yet, but if there's no termites, then it's about as useful as
fishing for trout in an empty bathtub.
Totally up to you - but I woulnd't spend any money on either. I'd just
have my house checked 2x a year for termites and spend the money when
it becomes necessary.
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| valuepest@gmail.com 2006-06-29, 9:28 am |
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Happybattles wrote:
> Liquid prevention is a good idea, but as for tenting a house: useless.
I am not sure, but some liquid termiticides are not labeled for
"preventive" post-construction treatments from what I understand.
Termidor is one of those.
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| Happybattles 2006-06-29, 9:28 am |
| There are several products:
Termidor
Premise
Cyper TC
are a few examples. However, IMHO, Cyper TC is crap... same with
Prevail.
valuepest@gmail.com wrote:
> Happybattles wrote:
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> I am not sure, but some liquid termiticides are not labeled for
> "preventive" post-construction treatments from what I understand.
> Termidor is one of those.
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| bugs@bugs.com 2006-06-30, 9:26 am |
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On 27-Jun-2006, valuepest@gmail.com wrote:
> I am not sure, but some liquid termiticides are not labeled for
> "preventive" post-construction treatments from what I understand.
> Termidor is one of those.
Jeff where do you get that from? I do not read that on the Termidor label,
in fact it talks about how to treat post construction in one section about
fence posts and other things. It also talks about a treatment being a
continuous chemical barrier around the entire house, it does not say pre or
post treatment, so I don't know how you can say that it is not labeled for
post preventative treatments. I know the Dept of Ag here where I am will not
fine you for using it for preventative post treatment.
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| valuepest@gmail.com 2006-07-06, 8:25 pm |
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bugs@bugs.com wrote:
> On 27-Jun-2006, valuepest@gmail.com wrote:
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> Jeff where do you get that from? I do not read that on the Termidor label,
> in fact it talks about how to treat post construction in one section about
> fence posts and other things. It also talks about a treatment being a
> continuous chemical barrier around the entire house, it does not say pre or
> post treatment, so I don't know how you can say that it is not labeled for
> post preventative treatments. I know the Dept of Ag here where I am will not
> fine you for using it for preventative post treatment.
Tim, nowhere on the Termidor label is "preventive" treatment specified.
There is Pre Construction termite control, and Post Construction
termite control. However, Premise says: "For prevention or control...",
so it's label allows preventive liquid treatment. According to
regulations here, unless the product is labeled "for prevention", you
must have active infestation if it is a post construction treatment.
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| In article <1152218564.134468.280940@k73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
valuepest@gmail.com says...
Tim, nowhere on the Termidor label is "preventive" treatment specified.
There is Pre Construction termite control, and Post Construction
termite control. However, Premise says: "For prevention or control...",
so it's label allows preventive liquid treatment. According to
regulations here, unless the product is labeled "for prevention", you
must have active infestation if it is a post construction treatment.
Jeff, if I remember right, you are in Kansas, which does allow post
construction treatment for termites on a structure with no evidence of
activity, including using Termidor. Now if the structure is under a
termite contract, most if not all the labels require visible activity
before a re treatment can be done. So there should be no problem if a
home owner where you are wants to have a treatment done for
"preventative" measures to use what you want and if Kansas allows the
perimeter plus label of Termidor it is a win/win.
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Lar
It is said that the early bird gets the worm,
but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.
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| valuepest@gmail.com 2006-07-10, 8:25 pm |
| > Jeff, if I remember right, you are in Kansas, which does allow post
> construction treatment for termites on a structure with no evidence of
> activity, including using Termidor. Now if the structure is under a
> termite contract, most if not all the labels require visible activity
> before a re treatment can be done. So there should be no problem if a
> home owner where you are wants to have a treatment done for
> "preventative" measures to use what you want and if Kansas allows the
> perimeter plus label of Termidor it is a win/win.
> --
> Lar
Can you find that for me in print? Would love to have that on file.
That way, I can sue the state if they try to ding me for using a
product in a manner not in accord with label directions.
Jeff
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| In article <1152572799.709713.223990@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
valuepest@gmail.com says...
> Jeff, if I remember right, you are in Kansas, which does allow post
> construction treatment for termites on a structure with no evidence of
> activity, including using Termidor. Now if the structure is under a
> termite contract, most if not all the labels require visible activity
> before a re treatment can be done. So there should be no problem if a
> home owner where you are wants to have a treatment done for
> "preventative" measures to use what you want and if Kansas allows the
> perimeter plus label of Termidor it is a win/win.
> --
> Lar
Can you find that for me in print? Would love to have that on file.
That way, I can sue the state if they try to ding me for using a
product in a manner not in accord with label directions.
Jeff
E-mail to ya.
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Lar
It is said that the early bird gets the worm,
but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.
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