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Author (theoretical) Ants: What happens when all the foragers die?
Thomas G. Marshall

2006-07-08, 1:25 pm


If I were able to use an instant kill ant trap (not a bait) that manages to
kill all or the vast majority of the colony's foragers, do the other ants
adapt to foraging or does the colony starve to death?

I've been using Terro ant drops with varying success. It seems to really
work, and then they come back and then it really works again. The colony
goes in surges, and the terro really does make them all seem very sickly in
a very short period of time, but I cannot tell if there is another colony
showing up, or if they recovered, etc., or what.

I've seen a couple home-remedy recommendations appear over and over and the
following seems to pop up. All Borax:sugar solution. The sugar is usual
kayro or pancake syrup.

Borax:Syrup ratios:

50:50 ---- This spread around the house periodically will kill tons of
ants. Hopefully no dogs.

10:90 --- This is more of a bait

5:95 --- This is Terro's ant-drop ratio.

Thoughts?



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2006-07-08, 1:25 pm

If you are going to try an ant bait, get Advance Granular Ant Bait. The
active ingredient will halt egg production in addition to killing ants
that consume it, so the colony growth will stop, and you may actually
get the control you want.

Uli Lachmuth

2006-07-08, 5:25 pm

Thomas G. Marshall wrote:

> If I were able to use an instant kill ant trap (not a bait) that manages to
> kill all or the vast majority of the colony's foragers, do the other ants
> adapt to foraging or does the colony starve to death?


If you did not use an instant kill trap but a methoprene bait you'd
experience exactly what you're seeking an answer for (OK, you'd have to
wait some three months (Pharao's ants) but anyway):

The queens come out and start seeking food on their own. Unfortunately,
there's no trail markings any more, so they wander around very
erratically and disoriented and slowly. And they are quite handicapped
finding their "colony" again, so about two weeks later the problem's
solved for good.

> Thoughts?


BTDT

Cheers, Uli (yeah, still alive)

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bugs@bugs.com

2006-07-11, 3:25 am

Son of a gun he is still kicking. How have you been lately? It is good to
see you posting again. I have suspected that you were lurking and it was
only a matter of time before you would raise your head and post again.
Welcome back....again.



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Uli Lachmuth

2006-07-15, 9:25 am

Hi Tim,

> Son of a gun he is still kicking. How have you been lately? It is good to
> see you posting again. I have suspected that you were lurking and it was
> only a matter of time before you would raise your head and post again.
> Welcome back....again.


I'm not much into Termites and other stuff discussed here recently - and
when I've got nothing to contribute I just keep quiet.

Cheers, Uli

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Thomas G. Marshall

2006-07-16, 3:25 am

Uli Lachmuth said something like:
> Hi Tim,
>
>
> I'm not much into Termites and other stuff discussed here recently - and
> when I've got nothing to contribute I just keep quiet.


Beats me how you guys can do this stuff for a living. I'm not afraid of
much, but for some reason nearly anything exoskeletal gives me the creeps,
/particularly/ them nearly-1 inch long carpeter ants. {shudder}.... Can't
turn my revulsion to them off. I wonder what part of evolution found it
necessary to do this....


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Lar

2006-07-16, 3:25 am

In article <%kiug.930$D7.687@trndny03>,
tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com says...
Beats me how you guys can do this stuff for a living. I'm not afraid of
much, but for some reason nearly anything exoskeletal gives me the creeps,


To get past the fear of the exoskeleton you must start small...think
shrimp...then move up to crab...then onwards to lobster.
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Thomas G. Marshall

2006-07-17, 3:25 am

Lar said something like:
> In article <%kiug.930$D7.687@trndny03>,
> tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com says...
> Beats me how you guys can do this stuff for a living. I'm not afraid
> of
> much, but for some reason nearly anything exoskeletal gives me the
> creeps,
>
> To get past the fear of the exoskeleton you must start small...think
> shrimp...then move up to crab...then onwards to lobster.


I wrote a short story once where people were boiling foot-long carpenter
ants alive and eating them like lobsters. Most lobster fans that I know
thought that was a horrifying idea, but when pressed on the point, could
/not/ come up with a reason why.

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