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Re: Lily made it after all
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| Cheryl 2006-07-16, 8:25 pm |
| On Sun 16 Jul 2006 06:34:37p, jmcquown wrote in
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:4hvt7vF1h3j3U1@individual.net):
> Pat wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure it would (kill the spiders in the coccoon; it
> is, after all, just a ball made from spun spiders silk). The
> exterminator would have to say for sure.
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> Jill
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Pardon the cross-post, but this might be a good question for
alt.consumer.pest-control.
H, I hadn't read the entire thread, and didn't know Max had been
killed by the fiddleback. I'm so sorry.
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Cheryl
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| H. Adam Stevens 2006-07-16, 9:25 pm |
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"Cheryl" <jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun 16 Jul 2006 06:34:37p, jmcquown wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:4hvt7vF1h3j3U1@individual.net):
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> Pardon the cross-post, but this might be a good question for
> alt.consumer.pest-control.
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> H, I hadn't read the entire thread, and didn't know Max had been
> killed by the fiddleback. I'm so sorry.
>
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> Cheryl
Cheryl
As the vet said, "We'll never know for sure.", but the symptoms were
consistent and, after putting out traps and catching nothing but lots of
fiddlebacks, I must say all the evidence points to that.
I had no idea. You never see the little bastards.
My grandson barely outweighs Max.
The finest cat I've ever known was a very costly canary-in-a-coal-mine.
The only other loss that brought me that much grief was my father.
From now on there will be sticky traps about.
I recommend it to all in fiddleback territory, which is half the U.S.
May yet save a cat out there.
Cheers
H.
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| bugs@bugs.com 2006-07-17, 3:25 am |
| You can use a pesticide on these spiders but it WILL NOT kill the spiders
inside the egg sacs. The egg sacs will protect the eggs inside from any
pesticide until the eggs actually hatch. Depending on which pesticide you
use some may still be around when the eggs hatch and some may not. I would
recommend a product calle Suspend SC it can last for up to 3 months in ideal
situations and is great on Brown Recluse spiders.
By the way sorry to hear about the cat.
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| H. Adam Stevens 2006-07-17, 3:25 am |
| Thanks Tim.
In the context of my life Max was right up there with my father.
He just happened to be a cat.
The most amazing one in 50 years of cats.
A Leonardo of kitties.
And I have grown kids with college degrees.
Go figure....
Since this got cross-posted I want to take advantage of the soap box and say
traps are a cheap way to do a census.
And learn to recognize recluses; Please.
They are small and very fast. And they are capable of great harm.
I do so enjoy watching them die on the glue boards.
But not fast enough: I have never enjoyed grinding a spider beneath my foot
so much.
<bugs@bugs.com> wrote in message
news:-tCdnaeO5akNmSbZnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> You can use a pesticide on these spiders but it WILL NOT kill the spiders
> inside the egg sacs. The egg sacs will protect the eggs inside from any
> pesticide until the eggs actually hatch. Depending on which pesticide you
> use some may still be around when the eggs hatch and some may not. I would
> recommend a product calle Suspend SC it can last for up to 3 months in
> ideal
> situations and is great on Brown Recluse spiders.
>
> By the way sorry to hear about the cat.
>
> --
> I wish you all the best
> Tim Wise
>
> www.onepest.com
> www.askourpros.com
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| In article <Xns9802D388324BBshads@130.133.1.4>,
jlhshadow@NOSPAMhotmail.com says...
 >> Will the spider-killing chemical have any effect on those
>> cocoons?
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> I'm pretty sure it would (kill the spiders in the coccoon; it
> is, after all, just a ball made from spun spiders silk). The
> exterminator would have to say for sure.
If the "cocoons" you are seeing are perfectly round they are not brown
recluse. BR egg sac will be a half globe, glued to a surface rather
than just hanging in a web.
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Lar
It is said that the early bird gets the worm,
but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.
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| > As the vet said, "We'll never know for sure.", but the symptoms were
> consistent and, after putting out traps and catching nothing but lots of
> fiddlebacks, I must say all the evidence points to that.
>
> I had no idea. You never see the little bastards.
>
> My grandson barely outweighs Max.
> The finest cat I've ever known was a very costly canary-in-a-coal-mine.
> The only other loss that brought me that much grief was my father.
>
> From now on there will be sticky traps about.
> I recommend it to all in fiddleback territory, which is half the U.S.
> May yet save a cat out there.
> Cheers
> H.
I didn't know the recluse spiders could kill a cat! We've got tons of those
(not the brown, but one or more of its relatives: the Tucson, Arizona,
desert and southwest recluses) in our house. Where did you get your glue
traps and where did you put them? I'm kind of freaked out now and think
I'll get out the vacuum and go spider hunting today. My daughter would be
so upset if her cat were killed by one.
Dawn
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<bugs@bugs.com> wrote in message
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> You can use a pesticide on these spiders but it WILL NOT kill the spiders
> inside the egg sacs. The egg sacs will protect the eggs inside from any
> pesticide until the eggs actually hatch. Depending on which pesticide you
> use some may still be around when the eggs hatch and some may not. I would
> recommend a product calle Suspend SC it can last for up to 3 months in
> ideal
> situations and is great on Brown Recluse spiders.
>
> By the way sorry to hear about the cat.
>
> --
> I wish you all the best
> Tim Wise
>
> www.onepest.com
> www.askourpros.com
Tim,
Where can one get this Suspend SC and how do you apply it? Is it very
toxic? We have avoided pesticides before now because I don't like to have
them in the house, but after reading about that poor cat I feel the need to
destroy these spiders any way I can.
Thanks,
Dawn
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| H. Adam Stevens 2006-07-18, 5:25 pm |
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"Dawn" <im_out_there_20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I didn't know the recluse spiders could kill a cat! We've got tons of
> those (not the brown, but one or more of its relatives: the Tucson,
> Arizona, desert and southwest recluses) in our house. Where did you get
> your glue traps and where did you put them?
Sticky boards are available wherever pesticides are sold. I bought mine at
the grocery.
I put them at outside doors, closet doors, wherever I thought spiders might
like to go.
>I'm kind of freaked out now and think I'll get out the vacuum and go spider
>hunting today. My daughter would be so upset if her cat were killed by
>one.
>
> Dawn
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| H. Adam Stevens 2006-07-18, 5:25 pm |
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"Happybattles" <happybattles@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry to hear about the cat.
>
> We have tons of Brown Spiders of different varieties in Northen Arizona
> as well (Prescott, Flagstaff area).
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> Glueboards are my favorite as a caught spider is just as good as a dead
> spider.
>
I will always keep them out from now on.
You get a census of your varmints.
> I've noticed that Talstar One or even Upstar Gold work well on spiders.
> My favorites, though, are Cy-Kick and Microcare because they are a
> micro-encapsulated formula. Haven't used any other CS but I'm sure
> they work the same way. What a great thing the scientists have done in
> producing micro-encapsulated products.
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| bugs@bugs.com 2006-07-18, 5:25 pm |
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On 18-Jul-2006, "Dawn" <im_out_there_20@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where can one get this Suspend SC and how do you apply it? Is it very
> toxic? We have avoided pesticides before now because I don't like to have
>
> them in the house, but after reading about that poor cat I feel the need
> to
> destroy these spiders any way I can.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dawn
You can get it at lots of the do it yourself pest control websites, also you
may be able to find it locally just look in stores such as hardware or
building supply stores. To apply it you will need to get a compressed air
sprayer, that is a big way to say a garden type sprayer. You know one that
you pump up to spray, then you will mix it according to the label
directions. For spiders, if memory serves me correctly you will mix 1 oz
Suspend to 1 gallon of water. This solution will spray the outside and
inside of most normal houses. You will want to spray in places such as
behind the headboards of the beds, behind any and all furniture, inside of
all closets and storage bins. Under things such as garbage cans or other
items that are low to the ground making it dark under them. Basically
anywhere that it make be dark and damp will need to be treated.
Is it very toxic? That is a good question, you have to understand that this
is a pesticide and it is designed to kill insects if applied according to
the label directions. Now if anyone gets crazy and starts spraying this
stuff all over the place, Yes it is very toxic at that point, but if the
label directions are followed then it is designed to kill insects, so what I
am saying is if you use it FOLLOW THE LABEL DIRECTIONS. I simply cannot
express that enough. If you do follow the label directions you will fill
your urger to kill many spiders and will be able to come back here and brag
about it......................we will be looking forward to your slaughter
stories ;o)
Coming soon to a Theater near you The Brown Recluse roundup by Dawn
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I wish you all the best
Tim Wise
www.onepest.com
www.askourpros.com
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| jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net 2006-07-18, 5:25 pm |
| Dawn <im_out_there_20@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I didn't know the recluse spiders could kill a cat! We've got tons of those
> (not the brown, but one or more of its relatives: the Tucson, Arizona,
> desert and southwest recluses) in our house. Where did you get your glue
> traps and where did you put them? I'm kind of freaked out now and think
> I'll get out the vacuum and go spider hunting today. My daughter would be
> so upset if her cat were killed by one.
Hi - before you freak too much, are you sure that all recluse spiders are
deadly? I know the brown recluse can be, but it might be good to get info
on the kind of spiders you do have before bringing out the artillery.
Joyce
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| jmcquown 2006-07-19, 9:25 am |
| Dawn wrote:
> I didn't know the recluse spiders could kill a cat! We've got tons
> of those (not the brown, but one or more of its relatives: the
> Tucson, Arizona, desert and southwest recluses) in our house. Where
> did you get your glue traps and where did you put them? I'm kind of
> freaked out now and think I'll get out the vacuum and go spider
> hunting today. My daughter would be so upset if her cat were killed
> by one.
>
As their name implies, they are "recluses". They hide in dark places, like
closets, attics, etc. The last time I moved I had some cardboard storage
boxes in my closet for storing winter clothes. When I went to check to see
if there was anything I wanted to get rid of before the move, lo! and
behold! A brown recluse spider in the box.
BTW, I saw a guy at my doctor's office once with this HUGE (about 3 inches
across) hideous sore on the back of his leg and he was limping. The nurse
told me he'd been bitten by a brown recluse. If it can do that to a full
grown man, just imagine what it could do to a poor little cat 
Jill
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