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Natural (botanical or inorganic) pest control products
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| Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita 2007-02-27, 5:25 pm |
| I offer botanical and inorganic products for pest services to clients
who prefer to stay away from synthetic pesticides. Anyone else use
these (EcoSmart products, DE, Boric Acid, etc.)?
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| Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita wrote:
> I offer botanical and inorganic products for pest services to clients
> who prefer to stay away from synthetic pesticides. Anyone else use
> these (EcoSmart products, DE, Boric Acid, etc.)?
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yes and no. I use ecosmart, drione, pyrethum in all my services. Just
not exclusively. Not a fan of DE (too slow to see results) or BA (too
heavy a dust for my liking). I have ordered and used specific natural
products on request by customer as long as I feel it doesn't interfere
with the over all protection I provide, or if it would be a waste of
product (money spent) due to what I may use will interfere with the
product. I do, if a customer has an interest in such services, help them
set up with treatment options or show them where to obtain biological
supplies. (different type of wasps/nemotodes, etc along with recipes of
different oils. If you remember Rocco out of Alaska, he is totally
natural and gave me some web links where to obtain such items, if you
like, or anyone else out there, let me know and I can pass them along.
Lar
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| gpsman 2007-02-28, 3:25 am |
| On Feb 27, 5:20 pm, "Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita"
<valuep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I offer botanical and inorganic products for pest services to clients
> who prefer to stay away from synthetic pesticides. Anyone else use
> these (EcoSmart products, DE, Boric Acid, etc.)?
Nobody I know. The agricultural use of synthetic insecticides makes
their use in residential applications completely insignificant. They
degrade rapidly enough to be considered perfectly safe, and work
better than any "natural" "eco-friendly" materials that lead to
dissatisfied clients and callbacks.
If there are detrimental ecological effects attributable to
synthetics, and I don't believe there are, they would be due to
misuse, and in violation of the label.
I was always surprised when rich hodads in a 12Ksf home with a Ferrari
and 2 Hummers in the garage expressed their concern for the
environment. Whatever it takes to salve the conscious I guess.
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| Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita 2007-02-28, 9:25 am |
| "They degrade rapidly enough to be considered perfectly safe, and work
better than any "natural" "eco-friendly" materials that lead to
dissatisfied clients and callbacks."
Can you point me to where the EPA or any state regulatory agency would
approve saying to the public that any pesticide is "perfectly safe"?
Fact is no pesticide is safe - even the botanicals.
I have to wonder what would prompt a statement like "and work better
than any "natural" "eco-friendly" materials that lead to dissatisfied
clients and callbacks", as I don't have dissatisfied customers where I
am using these, and I am not getting callbacks. The products MUST be
working to some degree, or I would have dissatisfied customers and
callbacks.
It's easy to see that we, as an industry, have a long way to go if we
can't accept natural products that have been proven to work. If you
personally don't want to use them, fine, don't. But don't make such
statements like they don't work and that any pesticide is safe.
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| gpsman 2007-03-01, 3:25 am |
| On Feb 28, 10:18 am, "Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita"
<valuep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "They degrade rapidly enough to be considered perfectly safe, and work
> better than any "natural" "eco-friendly" materials that lead to
> dissatisfied clients and callbacks."
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> Can you point me to where the EPA or any state regulatory agency would
> approve saying to the public that any pesticide is "perfectly safe"?
Doesn't the fact that they've approved some for use in homes, schools,
hospitals and nursing homes, and human ingestion, indicate they feel
they're "perfectly safe"? You can drink enough distilled water to
kill you. "Perfectly safe" is relative.
> I have to wonder what would prompt a statement like "and work better
> than any "natural" "eco-friendly" materials that lead to dissatisfied
> clients and callbacks", as I don't have dissatisfied customers where I
> am using these, and I am not getting callbacks. The products MUST be
> working to some degree, or I would have dissatisfied customers and
> callbacks.
Either you have dissatisfied customers, and callbacks, or you're in
some business other than pest control, or you do damn little of it.
> It's easy to see that we, as an industry, have a long way to go if we
> can't accept natural products that have been proven to work.
"Work" is a relative term. Raid "works". Flypapers "work".
> If you
> personally don't want to use them, fine, don't. But don't make such
> statements like they don't work and that any pesticide is safe.
"Natural" products don't have the persistence of synthetics, and every
pesticide is relatively "perfectly safe", especially synthetics, since
they're engineered for stability, and to adhere, and be water
resistant, and you can always control and be sure of the concentration
and application rate.
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- gpsman
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| Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita 2007-03-01, 9:25 am |
| "Either you have dissatisfied customers, and callbacks, or you're in
some business other than pest control, or you do damn little of it."
What a narrow view you have.
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| gpsman 2007-03-01, 5:25 pm |
| On Mar 1, 9:45 am, "Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita"
<valuep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Either you have dissatisfied customers, and callbacks, or you're in
> some business other than pest control, or you do damn little of it."
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> What a narrow view you have.
Perhaps, but at least I'm not full of shit.
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- gpsman
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| Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita 2007-03-01, 8:25 pm |
| On Mar 1, 5:22 pm, "gpsman" <gps...@driversmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 1, 9:45 am, "Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita"
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> <valuep...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Perhaps, but at least I'm not full of shit.
Sure sounds like it. You must be the know it all of pest control to to
make such stupid posts that chemicals are safe. You are a marketers
dream come true.
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| gpsman 2007-03-02, 1:25 pm |
| On Mar 1, 8:57 pm, "Jeff with ValuePest.com of Wichita"
<valuep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 1, 5:22 pm, "gpsman" <gps...@driversmail.com> wrote:
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> You must be the know it all of pest control <>
That's almost catchy, do you mind if I use it?
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- gpsman
"The Know-it-all of Pest Contral."
Hmm... never mind, I'd have to move to MS.
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