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Re: Visit My Web Site from pjm@pobox.com.txt (0028/1545)

TURTLE

2005-10-13, 10:21 pm

"..pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com" <pjm@pobox.com> wrote in message
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This is Turtle

Is Business that slow Pie Face ?

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-14, 2:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "..pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com" <pjm@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> This is Turtle
>
> Is Business that slow Pie Face ?
>
> TURTLE

You that farking stupid bayou boi?

>
>

TURTLE

2005-10-17, 12:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:1qD3f.306$MG.242@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
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> You that farking stupid bayou boi?
>

This is Turtle.

Could you speak english and not street language ?

TURTLE

R. Pierce Butler

2005-10-17, 3:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:KMO4f.13644$BF5.13301
@bignews7.bellsouth.net:

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> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
> news:HcR3f.74$rT.693@eagle.america.net...
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> This is Turtle.
>
> Could you speak english and not street language ?
>
> TURTLE
>
>
>

If Carolina Breeze has anything to do with the company itself, I would
certainly avoid them like the plague.

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2005-10-17, 4:21 pm

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:16:57 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com> wrote:

>"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:KMO4f.13644$BF5.13301
>@bignews7.bellsouth.net:
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>
>If Carolina Breeze has anything to do with the company itself, I would
>certainly avoid them like the plague.
>

Somebody fucking asked you ?

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-18, 1:21 am

"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
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> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:KMO4f.13644$BF5.13301
> @bignews7.bellsouth.net:
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>
> If Carolina Breeze has anything to do with the company itself, I would
> certainly avoid them like the plague.
>

Good...im the owner, and glad to see that there is another moron I wont have
to deal with this year.

I dont give a shit what you see here....HERE isnt what gets me my business,
and for the record asswipe, Im the only fucker in here with the balls to
tell you that you are a stupid fucker if you pay for refrigerant, that isnt
weighed in, and also the only XXXXXXX in here that takes the time to tell a
customer whats WHAT, not what the big companies wanna hear.

But then....you wont have to deal with someone that isnt out to fuck ya,
since you wont call based on some shit you see on Usenet.

BTW....for the record, we stopped charging for refrigerant alltogether this
season...but then, my supplier was only charging us $40 a jug
anyway.....THATS FOR THIRTY POUNDS FUCKER...
Hope the next time you need service, you get bent over and when you tell the
service guy you know its not $20 a pound put in with no scale, he just looks
at you and laughs like hell.

Please...no need to call....expanding and have all we can handle.

>
>

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-18, 1:21 am

<..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:16:57 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
> <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> Somebody fucking asked you ?

Hes probably the XXXXXXX that I told off yesterday when he called and
demanded we come out right then for a warranty call on someone elses mistake
and I told him that it wasnt gonna be free...

Who cares? Not I....
>
>
>
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>
> http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

TURTLE

2005-10-19, 9:21 pm

TURTLE

2005-10-19, 9:21 pm

<..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:16:57 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
> <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> Somebody fucking asked you ?
>

This is Turtle.

Was he talking to you or you just felt the need to lie about something ?

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-19, 9:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> "R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96F2871EC3F82mc2500183316chgoill@10.232.1.1...
>
> Good...im the owner, and glad to see that there is another moron I wont have
> to deal with this year.
>
> I dont give a shit what you see here....HERE isnt what gets me my business,
> and for the record asswipe, Im the only fucker in here with the balls to tell
> you that you are a stupid fucker if you pay for refrigerant, that isnt weighed
> in, and also the only XXXXXXX in here that takes the time to tell a customer
> whats WHAT, not what the big companies wanna hear.
>
> But then....you wont have to deal with someone that isnt out to fuck ya, since
> you wont call based on some shit you see on Usenet.
>
> BTW....for the record, we stopped charging for refrigerant alltogether this
> season...but then, my supplier was only charging us $40 a jug anyway.....THATS
> FOR THIRTY POUNDS FUCKER...
> Hope the next time you need service, you get bent over and when you tell the
> service guy you know its not $20 a pound put in with no scale, he just looks
> at you and laughs like hell.
>
> Please...no need to call....expanding and have all we can handle.
>

this is Turtle.

now that he has seen through you , you are tring to impress him with the
Bullshit words of the wizards of A/C. he is not bitting ! now That is a good one
about the $40.00 for 30 pounder now a days.

TURTLE.

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-20, 4:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
> news:dB_4f.173$qg1.1270@eagle.america.net...
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> this is Turtle.
>
> now that he has seen through you , you are tring to impress him with the
> Bullshit words of the wizards of A/C. he is not bitting ! now That is a
> good one about the $40.00 for 30 pounder now a days.

Wait till you see what else we have planned for the likes of you..

>
> TURTLE.
>

Noon-Air

2005-10-20, 9:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:%RA5f.2604$V67.6@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
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> Wait till you see what else we have planned for the likes of you..

Where you getting $40 for a 30 pounder??? I want to buy another pallet

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-20, 10:21 pm

"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> Where you getting $40 for a 30 pounder??? I want to buy another pallet
>

E-mail direct.

>

~^Johnny^~

2005-10-24, 4:21 pm

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:47:23 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
wrote:

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>"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
>news:WTR5f.110$EP6.559@eagle.america.net...
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>Where you getting $40 for a 30 pounder??? I want to buy another pallet
>

I wouldn't settle for LTL, or even a truckload, or rather, gimme a
whole goddamn container!

Steve is dreaming of the past. When I quit refrigeration, in 1990, a
30 lb jug of R12 was over $70 US, WHOLESALE. Retail was about $8.00
/lb... By 1993, it had jumped to over $130 a jug WHOLESALE.

R22 wasn't much cheaper, WHOLESALE, at about $45 a jug, but we only
got about $4/lb for it retail.

And I'm in California.

Eight dollars per pound is a GREAT BARGAIN, now, for most
refrigerants.

The only three refrigerants we should ever really need, in low-med
temp refrigeration and hi-temp HVAC are R600a, R290, and R717. DAMN
THE BEAUROCRATS!

I rest my case.

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

~^Johnny^~

2005-10-24, 4:21 pm

Here's some good reading:
http://www.airah.org.au/downloads/AIRAH_RSG2003.pdf

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:28:28 -0700, ~^Johnny^~
<nospam@gyrogearloose.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:47:23 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>I wouldn't settle for LTL, or even a truckload, or rather, gimme a
>whole goddamn container!
>
>Steve is dreaming of the past. When I quit refrigeration, in 1990, a
>30 lb jug of R12 was over $70 US, WHOLESALE. Retail was about $8.00
>/lb... By 1993, it had jumped to over $130 a jug WHOLESALE.
>
>R22 wasn't much cheaper, WHOLESALE, at about $45 a jug, but we only
>got about $4/lb for it retail.
>
>And I'm in California.
>
>Eight dollars per pound is a GREAT BARGAIN, now, for most
>refrigerants.
>
>
>The only three refrigerants we should ever really need, in low-med
>temp refrigeration and hi-temp HVAC are R600a, R290, and R717. DAMN
>THE BEAUROCRATS!
>
>I rest my case.
--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

Jake

2005-10-24, 9:21 pm

> R22 wasn't much cheaper, WHOLESALE, at about $45 a jug, but we only
> got about $4/lb for it retail.
>
> And I'm in California.
>
> Eight dollars per pound is a GREAT BARGAIN, now, for most
> refrigerants.
>
>
> The only three refrigerants we should ever really need, in low-med
> temp refrigeration and hi-temp HVAC are R600a, R290, and R717. DAMN
> THE BEAUROCRATS!
>
> I rest my case.
>

Hmmmm... I just checked my price online at Johnstones.... 30# R22 for a
little less than $55...

And I really don't buy much from them....

Jake

Al Moran

2005-10-24, 10:21 pm

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:28:56 GMT, Jake <jkelleyus@insightbb.com>
wrote:

>
>Hmmmm... I just checked my price online at Johnstones.... 30# R22 for a
>little less than $55...
>
>And I really don't buy much from them....
>
>Jake

Their prices must not be updated. I bought a 30# jug of r22 and a
filter drier from them today. Price for both was $103 and some change.

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-24, 11:21 pm

"Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:28:56 GMT, Jake <jkelleyus@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Their prices must not be updated. I bought a 30# jug of r22 and a
> filter drier from them today. Price for both was $103 and some change.

Ill call in the morning, but the price I am showing with my online Johnstone
account here, is $56.85 per jug....

And just so everyone knows, the other prices were from my supplier...some of
you have Virginia Airs there...check their prices....might be surprised...

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-24, 11:21 pm

"~^Johnny^~" <nospam@gyrogearloose.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:47:23 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't settle for LTL, or even a truckload, or rather, gimme a
> whole goddamn container!
>
> Steve is dreaming of the past. When I quit refrigeration, in 1990, a
> 30 lb jug of R12 was over $70 US, WHOLESALE. Retail was about $8.00
> /lb... By 1993, it had jumped to over $130 a jug WHOLESALE.

Umm...thats BS, or you were buying from someone that really hated you, cause
I was dealing with Johnstone and Ferguson in Palm Desert back then, and I
never paid over $50 a jug for it then.
Still got an account at teh Ferguson there, since they carry a thermostat
that we cant get here.

>
> R22 wasn't much cheaper, WHOLESALE, at about $45 a jug, but we only
> got about $4/lb for it retail.
>
> And I'm in California.
>
> Eight dollars per pound is a GREAT BARGAIN, now, for most
> refrigerants.
>
>
> The only three refrigerants we should ever really need, in low-med
> temp refrigeration and hi-temp HVAC are R600a, R290, and R717. DAMN
> THE BEAUROCRATS!
>
> I rest my case.
>
> --
> -john
> wide-open at throttle dot info

Bill

2005-10-25, 12:21 am

In article <piaql1l1oja9jfmdd71pc2b4gjpt9tgpj4@4ax.com>,
~^Johnny^~ <nospam@gyrogearloose.com> wrote:
> Here's some good reading:
> http://www.airah.org.au/downloads/AIRAH_RSG2003.pdf

Except the part about the "Natural refrigerants".

I especially liked the part about ONLY. They used that word a lot.
The "Natural refrigerants" are ONLY explosive in 1%-10% concentrations.

The morons pushing propane obviously had input there. They have no
regard for safety.

The weenies pushing Hydrocarbons aggressively in Australia.
http://www.greenchill.org/

If I remember right an Alpha fire is one that leaves an ash.

I don't want any "Screaming Alpha's" as customers.

--

A Professional is someone who does a good job even when they don't feel like it.

~^Johnny^~

2005-10-25, 3:21 pm

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:25:44 -0400, "Carolina Breeze HVAC"
<steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote:

>Umm...thats BS, or you were buying from someone that really hated you, cause
>I was dealing with Johnstone and Ferguson in Palm Desert back then, and I
>never paid over $50 a jug for it then.

Hmmm, unless my memory fails me, it was NTCC (Formerly Pameco-Aire),
a local distributor. It was circa 1989-1990 when prices spiked.
Over $70 for a jug of R12, and a little more than half that for a jug
of R22. But I shouldn't trust my memory.

I haven't had to buy any since then, but a guy I was working for back
in 1999-2000 was paying considerably more through WCI (not White
Consolidated Industries), and I'm sure they were competitive with
Johnstone. But we worked with mostly R409a and R414b, since R12 was
so damn high.

My latest Johnstone book is about 5 years old, and either buried or
thrown away. Ditto for the other catalogs

I'm too damned busy with computers now to do any refrigeration on a
regular basis anyway. I'm an armchair tech now. :-)

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

~^Johnny^~

2005-10-25, 8:21 pm

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Bill <bill@hvac.com> wrote:

>In article <piaql1l1oja9jfmdd71pc2b4gjpt9tgpj4@4ax.com>,
> ~^Johnny^~ <nospam@gyrogearloose.com> wrote:
>
>Except the part about the "Natural refrigerants".
>
>I especially liked the part about ONLY. They used that word a lot.
>The "Natural refrigerants" are ONLY explosive in 1%-10% concentrations.

STRAW MAN ARGUMENT!

Natural gas is explosive in the range of 4% to 14%, in air.

BUT, We heat our homes with it, we cook with it, and
sometimes a pilot goes out, or a burner gets left turned on,
with no flame. The house fills with gas, but seldom is the
"ka-boom" to follow.

It CAN happen. A computer store, across the alley from the
refrigeration shop I was working at (to see the irony in this,
read my last post), had a NG explosion, which took out their
front plate glass window. The heater had malfunctioned,
and the resultant explosion knocked out the window. However,
nothing was burned. The force of the explosion exceeded the
flame velocity of methane in air, so it blew the flame out,
too. All it did was blow out the front window.

>The morons pushing propane obviously had input there. They have no
>regard for safety.

You nay-sayers don't fully understand the principles of carburetion.

>The weenies pushing Hydrocarbons aggressively in Australia.
>http://www.greenchill.org/

So?

>If I remember right an Alpha fire is one that leaves an ash.

=snarf!=

>I don't want any "Screaming Alpha's" as customers.

And I don't want "Flaming Moe's".

But if the whole ODP story is true, (which I doubt), then wouldn't a
few small, isolated fires or explosions be better than a global
catastrophe? <g,d,r>

Ammonia is flammable, too, and is quite toxic, but it is used in
LARGE systems everywhere.

IRMC.

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

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