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Jake I'm working at your Mecca!!!!
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| Barry 2005-10-19, 11:21 pm |
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Doing a job at Emerson Process Management in Pittsburgh. Imagine
seeing maybe 75 to a 100 process control centers fully operational
side by side as far as the eye can see. Power plants, water treatment
facilities, waste stations. All with those nice 32, 36, or even
bigger computer monitors. It is a thing of beauty. They have a nice
training center here too if your so inclined.
Barry
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| Barry wrote:
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> Doing a job at Emerson Process Management in Pittsburgh. Imagine
> seeing maybe 75 to a 100 process control centers fully operational
> side by side as far as the eye can see. Power plants, water treatment
> facilities, waste stations. All with those nice 32, 36, or even
> bigger computer monitors. It is a thing of beauty. They have a nice
> training center here too if your so inclined.
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> Barry
Emerson is a great company, and has been rumored to be a contender for
the buy=out of my beloved Allen-Bradley (Rockwell) if they keep
stumbling around.
I didn't know such a center even existed, although I'm on opposite sides
at the moment with AB.
Fisher-Rosemont and DeltaV are forces to be reckoned with... I'm sure.
Emerson, AB and Schneider (Square D & Modicon) are really the only big
boys left... Cutler Hammer/Eaton pretty much gave up and the smaller
guys got bought out by the bigger ones.
Your post is timely... I need to get more in tune with Emerson...
Jake
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| Oscar_Lives 2005-10-20, 12:21 am |
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"Jake" <jkelleyus@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:44D5f.444877$x96.181361@attbi_s72...
> Barry wrote:
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> Emerson is a great company, and has been rumored to be a contender for the
> buy=out of my beloved Allen-Bradley (Rockwell) if they keep stumbling
> around.
>
> I didn't know such a center even existed, although I'm on opposite sides
> at the moment with AB.
>
> Fisher-Rosemont and DeltaV are forces to be reckoned with... I'm sure.
>
> Emerson, AB and Schneider (Square D & Modicon) are really the only big
> boys left... Cutler Hammer/Eaton pretty much gave up and the smaller guys
> got bought out by the bigger ones.
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> Your post is timely... I need to get more in tune with Emerson...
>
> Jake
Hey-- What about Siemens?
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| Barry 2005-10-20, 12:21 am |
| On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:14:24 GMT, Jake <jkelleyus@insightbb.com>
wrote:
>Barry wrote:
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>Emerson is a great company, and has been rumored to be a contender for
>the buy=out of my beloved Allen-Bradley (Rockwell) if they keep
>stumbling around.
>
>I didn't know such a center even existed, although I'm on opposite sides
>at the moment with AB.
>
>Fisher-Rosemont and DeltaV are forces to be reckoned with... I'm sure.
>
>Emerson, AB and Schneider (Square D & Modicon) are really the only big
>boys left... Cutler Hammer/Eaton pretty much gave up and the smaller
>guys got bought out by the bigger ones.
>
>Your post is timely... I need to get more in tune with Emerson...
>
>Jake
I better clarify, All of the process control centers are at the
end of the manufacturing process. They have this large room where
they actually have everything set up as though the equipment was in
place. Where by they load and test the soft ware. They bring
customers in for final approval and so forth. In a separate facility
next door they have a training facility. The people here a excellent
to work with. So, I assume that would extend to any after market
tech assist issues.
Barry
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| Oscar_Lives wrote:
> "Jake" <jkelleyus@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:44D5f.444877$x96.181361@attbi_s72...
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> Hey-- What about Siemens?
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Hah... you had to ask, didn't you... and get my blood pressure up.
THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS MY OPINION ALONE, AND DOES NOT REFLECT THE
OPINIONS OR PROFESSIONAL EVALUATIONS OF MYSELF, THE EMPLOYEES OF MY
COMPANY, THEIR FAMILIES OR FRIENDS, CUSTOMERS, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO MIGHT
BE SUED BY A UNNAMED MEGA-million, OPPORTUNISTIC -INTERESTED IN ONLY
SALES- BLOOD SUCKING COMPANY.
Siemens once made great CNC controllers, and still are a major force in
the machining market, although the Japanese (and otherS) have whipped
their butts pretty good... Sam?
Their building automation controls are crap... poorly engineered... even
more poorly manufactured... and supported by the
thinnest-of-thin-corporate-staff-we-think-we-could get-by-with.
JCI does a better job of this...and they're not exactly high-tech as
compared to the industrial world.
Siemens does not hold a candle to JCI, and JCI does not hold a candle to
Modicon, and Modicon does not hold a candle to Rockwell... and
unfortunately.... Rockwell does not hold a candle to Emerson... IN
AUTOMATION AND CONTROL. CH can't figure out what it's good at...
although it's very good at some things.
OK, I'll just say it... I don't like Siemens stuff much... and it's what
I started on. Much like a kid that learns to ride a tricycle.. soon you
find three speeds, and then ten speeds, and then automobiles... and find
out you can go a lot farther... a lot faster... and with a lot less
effort.... using the right equipment.
"and that's all I've got to say about that..."
Jake
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| PrecisionMachinisT 2005-10-20, 2:21 am |
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"Jake" <jkelleyus@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Oscar_Lives wrote:
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> Hah... you had to ask, didn't you... and get my blood pressure up.
>
> THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS MY OPINION ALONE, AND DOES NOT REFLECT THE
> OPINIONS OR PROFESSIONAL EVALUATIONS OF MYSELF, THE EMPLOYEES OF MY
> COMPANY, THEIR FAMILIES OR FRIENDS, CUSTOMERS, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO MIGHT
> BE SUED BY A UNNAMED MEGA-million, OPPORTUNISTIC -INTERESTED IN ONLY
> SALES- BLOOD SUCKING COMPANY.
>
> Siemens once made great CNC controllers, and still are a major force in
> the machining market, although the Japanese (and otherS) have whipped
> their butts pretty good... Sam?
>
Never cared much for Siemans myself, was on some gear cutting machines when
I was with Boeing...mostly the problem was with the operator interface being
cumbersome.
I'm still running a vintage 1985 Fanuc controller here on a daily basis, it
runs 5 closed loop servo axis plus the spindle drive...this along with it's
communicating to a plc having 2 expansion I/O modules that takes care of
most all the auxillary functions.
I once toasted a couple MOVS in one of the drives out of sheer
stupidity...but no damage occured to the drive itself
And the PLC did once give me some intermittant troubles some years
ago...turned out to be a cold solder joint on a relay card.
Sometimes I have to thump a panel indicator light or some shit, but that's
pretty normal in my arena....
Otherwise, basically bullet proof--though I gotta admit, reading the
Japanese translated manuals is a pain in the XXX even where very minor
problems crop up.
Fanuc is now called GE Fanuc Automation, and since I have no experience with
any of their stuff past ~mid 90's vintage I can't really comment.
--
SVL
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| Geoman1 2005-10-20, 9:21 pm |
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"Barry" <b2b2ss@#earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:14:24 GMT, Jake <jkelleyus@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
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> I better clarify, All of the process control centers are at the
> end of the manufacturing process. They have this large room where
> they actually have everything set up as though the equipment was in
> place. Where by they load and test the soft ware. They bring
> customers in for final approval and so forth. In a separate facility
> next door they have a training facility. The people here a excellent
> to work with. So, I assume that would extend to any after market
> tech assist issues.
>
>
> Barry
I think you guys have just eliminated 90% of the viewers here with this
topic :-) I know I'm out of the loop on this thread.
The only thing I'm surprised at is Jake living in Pittsburg, I thought the
only things that lived in Pittsburg,,,,, oh, never mind ! :-)
GO BROWNS!
Rich
Rich
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> The only thing I'm surprised at is Jake living in Pittsburg, I thought the
> only things that lived in Pittsburg,,,,, oh, never mind ! :-)
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> GO BROWNS!
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> Rich
> Rich
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Pittsburgh... HAH. I live in a nice little 'burg' north of Indianapolis.
Go COLTS!
They better, as we're building them a $542 million dollar stadium with
MY money...
Jake
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| geoman jr 2005-10-21, 10:21 pm |
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"Jake" <jkelleyus@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Pittsburgh... HAH. I live in a nice little 'burg' north of Indianapolis.
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> Go COLTS!
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> They better, as we're building them a $542 million dollar stadium with MY
> money...
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> Jake
Near Anderson??? Rich's daughter is going to college there- maybe we can
hook up sometime :-))
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| geoman jr wrote:
> "Jake" <jkelleyus@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Near Anderson??? Rich's daughter is going to college there- maybe we can
> hook up sometime :-))
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Lemme know... the email is good.
Jake
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