Heating and air conditioning - Maybe Words Cast to the Wind !

Author

Maybe Words Cast to the Wind !

TURTLE

2005-10-22, 1:21 am

This is Turtle.

1 The alt.hvac Group has got on a judge trip of everybody that post here ,
members, and home owners that ask a question. If some home owner ask a dumb
question about say a thermostat. if someone wants to answer him or not is just
left up to the member to post or not. Paul can say go away like he regularly
does and that is still ok. Now what happens in the group of members and paul
does and start a degrading war on the poster/homeowner or other members and try
to get a flame war started , when there is none. now the fellow looking for a
Armstrong furnace repair manual or should have said installation manual. I did
not feel the need to speak to him or much less start a flame war with him like i
seen a bunch here do. Professional will not act like this at all and in most
cases knowing of the flame war starting , just say nothing to stay out of it.
Professional just don't speak like this at all.

2 i know these words will be flaming words , but i would say we need to get
back some respect about what we post and stop flaming billy bob [ awww no
disrespect here ] who post a dumb question ! Like the Armstrong fellow asking
for manual , if you speak to him -- answer his question as best as you can. If
you don't want to answer the question , just don't say anything to him at all
and no flame at all either.

3 i would like to see the ALK.HVAC go back to discussion of the business and
not how much flame can be fired out on the thread.

Now if you want to flame -- Go away

now if you want a better place to discuss the hvac business at -- Speak up.

TURTLE

Al Moran

2005-10-22, 1:21 am

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:35:27 -0500, "TURTLE"
<turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Professional just don't speak like this at all.

You are correct sir. They speak something called english.

Oscar_Lives

2005-10-22, 1:21 am

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2005-10-22, 1:21 am

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:37:40 GMT, Al Moran <almoran@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:35:27 -0500, "TURTLE"
><turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>You are correct sir. They speak something called english.

Now you're gonna confusicate the boi.

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

TURTLE

2005-10-22, 1:21 am

"Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sucjl1pl1dr6tmmgud00bflrn0i1pkq7hg@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:35:27 -0500, "TURTLE"
> <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> You are correct sir. They speak something called english.

This is Turtrle.

as I see here we have three wise men speaking but speaking only flame starters
to someone saying the bad word respect.

Also down here you would be lost speaking to the customers for they a lot of
times speak broken french or broken Indian . English is the second language down
here.

TURTLE

2005-10-22, 1:21 am

TURTLE wrote:

This is Turtle.

1 The regular members of alt.hvac Group have gone on a trip where they
are judging everybody that posts here; any members and home owners that
have a legitimate question. If some home owner asks a dumb question,
about say a thermostat, if someone wants to answer him or not, then that
is just left up to the member to post or not to post. Paul can say "go
away" like he regularly does and that is still ok. Now what happens is
that the group of members, and especially paul, starts a war on the
poster/homeowner or other members degrading them in an attempt to get a
flame war started when there are none already in progress.

Now this fellow who was looking for an Armstrong furnace repair manual
(or should have said installation manual).... I did not feel the need to
speak to him or much less start a flame war with him like a few others
did. Professionals don't act like this, and in most cases when a flame
war is brewing they just say nothing and stay out of it. Professionals
just don't speak like this under any circumstance.

2) I know these will be flaming words , but I say we need to get
back some respect by watching what we post and by putting an end to
flaming any Billy Bob who happens in here [ awww no
disrespect here ] who posts a dumb question! Like the Armstrong fellow
asking for a manual, if you speak to him, then answer his question as
best as you can. If you don't want to answer the question, just don't
say anything to him at all. Refrain from flaming him.

3) I would like to see alt.hvac go back to trade related discussions
rather than trying to see how many flames can be fired out in the course
of the thread.

Now if you want to flame, don't, just stfu instead.
Now if you want a better place to discuss the HVAC trade, then speak up.

--Terry
edited for publication by Perry's Publishing & Promotion
_______

Consider that an answer to your request to speak up Turtle.
Now, as Jesus said to the whore "Go and sin no more. Your XXX is MINE,
let's keep it that way. So help me ME, if you aren't waiting for me when
I get home I'll get out of the way and let those fucking natives stone
your slutty XXX into the ground."

hvacrmedic

PrecisionMachinisT

2005-10-22, 2:21 am

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:7qi6f.1084$BW5.442@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> This is Turtle.
>
> 1 The alt.hvac Group has got on a judge trip of everybody that post here
,
> members, and home owners that ask a question. If some home owner ask a
dumb
> question about say a thermostat. if someone wants to answer him or not is
just
> left up to the member to post or not. Paul can say go away like he
regularly
> does and that is still ok. Now what happens in the group of members and
paul
> does and start a degrading war on the poster/homeowner or other members
and try
> to get a flame war started , when there is none. now the fellow looking
for a
> Armstrong furnace repair manual or should have said installation manual. I
did
> not feel the need to speak to him or much less start a flame war with him
like i
> seen a bunch here do. Professional will not act like this at all and in
most
> cases knowing of the flame war starting , just say nothing to stay out of
it.
> Professional just don't speak like this at all.
>
> 2 i know these words will be flaming words , but i would say we need to
get
> back some respect about what we post and stop flaming billy bob [ awww no
> disrespect here ] who post a dumb question ! Like the Armstrong fellow
asking
> for manual , if you speak to him -- answer his question as best as you
can. If
> you don't want to answer the question , just don't say anything to him at
all
> and no flame at all either.
>
> 3 i would like to see the ALK.HVAC go back to discussion of the business
and
> not how much flame can be fired out on the thread.
>
> Now if you want to flame -- Go away
>
> now if you want a better place to discuss the hvac business at -- Speak
up.
>
>

Nobody ( including you ) is ever gonna be able to control an unmoderated
usenet group, and any appearance of there being any control whatsoever is
but an illusion.

Deal with it.

--

SVL

2005-10-22, 2:21 am

PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:7qi6f.1084$BW5.442@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>
>
> ,
>
>
> dumb
>
>
> just
>
>
> regularly
>
>
> paul
>
>
> and try
>
>
> for a
>
>
> did
>
>
> like i
>
>
> most
>
>
> it.
>
>
> get
>
>
> asking
>
>
> can. If
>
>
> all
>
>
> and
>
>
> up.
>
>
> Nobody ( including you ) is ever gonna be able to control an unmoderated
> usenet group, and any appearance of there being any control whatsoever is
> but an illusion.
>
> Deal with it.

Contol of the House of Representatives refers to the majority party. The
idea that an unmoderated group cannot be controlled is erroneous at
best, since the majority tend to flavor it with their particular brand
of conversation while the minority are wading through what tastes to
them exactly like shit. If the majority disliked the taste of shit, then
the minority would find themselves shitting in the corners rather than
in the middle of the room, scurrying in the recesses from one
opportunity to another to place droppings in guerilla-like fashion. They
would be wading through what tastes to them like vanilla ice cream
sundaes, which is a flavor that they find repugnant, and they would be
more likely to find an unoccupied room to shit in, or else one whose
majority fancy crapping right in the middle, a place where they would be
more at ease.

Turtle is right about the number of intelligent contributors that have
abandoned this group, and about the reasons for their leaving. I've left
myself a time or two for exactly that reason. Turtle tried to force his
detractors out, and this is where he went wrong. Had he heeded his own
advice given in this thread, then like Ghandi he would've accomplished
more with nothing more than the example that he set. He's now backing up
and realizing that this might have been the better approach, having only
worsened matters by stooping to the level of unconsciousness exhibited
by others. He may not be the brightest bulb in the room, but he
certainly used to glow the warmest. He definitely made mistakes, like
when he came out swinging after being called out on his bad advice (and
this was offered to him first in a rather professional manner, or at
least I thought it was). His next big mistake was to think that a
counter-exchange was going to accomplish anything in his favor. The best
you can do when it comes to persuading others is to suggest rather than
demand. Here, in this thread, he has finally figured that out.

I'd like to keep up the sort of recent discussions, that are dotted with
smilys and actually useful and OT conversation. Off topic is fine too in
moderation. Who is it here that would rather frown than smile? All who
said yeah, get help.

hvacrmedic

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2005-10-22, 9:21 am

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:07:09 -0500, RP <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Turtle is right about the number of intelligent contributors that have
>abandoned this group, and about the reasons for their leaving. I've left
>myself a time or two for exactly that reason. Turtle tried to force his
>detractors out, and this is where he went wrong. Had he heeded his own
>advice given in this thread, then like Ghandi he would've accomplished
>more with nothing more than the example that he set. He's now backing up
>and realizing that this might have been the better approach, having only
>worsened matters by stooping to the level of unconsciousness exhibited

No, he's not. He's just playing his weasel game as usual.

>by others. He may not be the brightest bulb in the room, but he
>certainly used to glow the warmest. He definitely made mistakes, like
>when he came out swinging after being called out on his bad advice (and
>this was offered to him first in a rather professional manner, or at
>least I thought it was). His next big mistake was to think that a
>counter-exchange was going to accomplish anything in his favor. The best
>you can do when it comes to persuading others is to suggest rather than
>demand. Here, in this thread, he has finally figured that out.

Watch when he starts in again with his insane drooling
playground insults and demented threats, and then see what he has
'figured out'.

>
>I'd like to keep up the sort of recent discussions, that are dotted with
>smilys and actually useful and OT conversation. Off topic is fine too in
>moderation. Who is it here that would rather frown than smile? All who
>said yeah, get help.
>
>hvacrmedic

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

GaryE

2005-10-22, 10:21 am

Turtle
I agree with you.
I don't think we're going to stop home owners from posting to this group
& I see no need reason to be rude to them unless they give us cause.
If you don't want to help them don't answer their post or a simple
redirection to another group should suffice. Now if they get pissy they
deserve what they get also. I'm sure all of us have been on a job & had
a homeowner next door or one of the workers around a job site ask us
questions about a problem they're having with their system at home.
I can't imagine any of us talking to these people face to face the way
some do here. We'd get our asses kicked eventually or maybe just a bad
reputation if we we're lucky. When I talk to anyone on this group I try
not to say anything differently that I would if I were speaking in
person. On the other side I doubt if you & Paul would talk to each other
the way you do face to face without blood flowing. I like a good
argument but I don't like it when it becomes disrespectful. I don't
expect any of us to change our ways but since you brought it up I felt
like voicing my opinions.

--

Gary

Leave off A to reply by email : garyed_at_gte.net

When you know it can always be worse, it never seems that bad.
When you appreciate what you have, you have a lot more.

B-Hate-Me

2005-10-22, 10:21 am

"GaryE" <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote in message news:435A37D8.1030206@gte.net...
> I don't think we're going to stop home owners from posting to this group &
> I see no need reason to be rude to them unless they give us cause.
> If you don't want to help them don't answer their post or a simple
> redirection to another group should suffice. Now if they get pissy they
> deserve what they get also. I'm sure all of us have been on a job & had a
> homeowner next door or one of the workers around a job site ask us
> questions about a problem they're having with their system at home.
> I can't imagine any of us talking to these people face to face the way
> some do here. We'd get our asses kicked eventually or maybe just a bad
> reputation if we we're lucky.

I get em every day.....People call my company looking for free advice.

Even though I feel like saying, "blow me", I don't.

I do tell them that I'm not going to diagnose their shit over the
phone because I don't want to put them into a potentially dangerous
situation.

There are many on this group that do EXACTLY that.

I won't mention any names but stormin mormin comes to mind.

He should be shot.

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2005-10-22, 10:21 am

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:55:52 GMT, GaryE <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote:

>Turtle
>I agree with you.
>I don't think we're going to stop home owners from posting to this group
>& I see no need reason to be rude to them unless they give us cause.

And no one is. A simple direction 'post in alt.home.repair'
is not 'rude'.

>If you don't want to help them don't answer their post or a simple
>redirection to another group should suffice.

That is exactly what they get.

> Now if they get pissy they
>deserve what they get also.

And that, too.

> I'm sure all of us have been on a job & had
>a homeowner next door or one of the workers around a job site ask us
>questions about a problem they're having with their system at home.

This is not 'on the job'. This is 'at home'. How many
complete strangers from across the country do you get calling you at
home asking for free advice ?

>I can't imagine any of us talking to these people face to face the way
>some do here. We'd get our asses kicked eventually or maybe just a bad

Nor do people talk to me 'face to face' the way they do here,
for the same reason. Like Weasel, for instance.

>reputation if we we're lucky. When I talk to anyone on this group I try
>not to say anything differently that I would if I were speaking in
>person. On the other side I doubt if you & Paul would talk to each other
> the way you do face to face without blood flowing. I like a good

Yeh - the old man would pop a blood vessel.

>argument but I don't like it when it becomes disrespectful. I don't
>expect any of us to change our ways but since you brought it up I felt
>like voicing my opinions.

I can't believe you're falling for his shit. Go back and read
his last 1,000 posts here, and THEN tell me you believe he believes
this lie he's telling.

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2005-10-22, 10:21 am

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:03:40 -0400, "B-Hate-Me" <BHateMe@home> wrote:

>
>"GaryE" <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote in message news:435A37D8.1030206@gte.net...
>
>I get em every day.....People call my company looking for free advice.
>
>Even though I feel like saying, "blow me", I don't.

If they hand you some shit first, I bet you do.

>I do tell them that I'm not going to diagnose their shit over the
>phone because I don't want to put them into a potentially dangerous
>situation.
>
>There are many on this group that do EXACTLY that.
>
>I won't mention any names but stormin mormin comes to mind.
>
>He should be shot.
>
>
>

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

Bubba

2005-10-22, 10:21 am

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:55:52 GMT, GaryE <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote:

>Turtle
>I agree with you.
>I don't think we're going to stop home owners from posting to this group
>& I see no need reason to be rude to them unless they give us cause.
>If you don't want to help them don't answer their post or a simple
>redirection to another group should suffice. Now if they get pissy they
>deserve what they get also. I'm sure all of us have been on a job & had
>a homeowner next door or one of the workers around a job site ask us
>questions about a problem they're having with their system at home.
>I can't imagine any of us talking to these people face to face the way
>some do here. We'd get our asses kicked eventually or maybe just a bad
>reputation if we we're lucky. When I talk to anyone on this group I try
>not to say anything differently that I would if I were speaking in
>person. On the other side I doubt if you & Paul would talk to each other
> the way you do face to face without blood flowing. I like a good
>argument but I don't like it when it becomes disrespectful. I don't
>expect any of us to change our ways but since you brought it up I felt
>like voicing my opinions.

I get them while Im on the job too. Last one was couple weeks ago.
Servicing 2 units at a home in a very affluent neighborhood. As I
round the corner to my truck to retreive some more tools the next door
neighbor (in her golf cart) stops me and asks, "Hey, What would you
charge to come over and put fuses in my unit?" Without skipping a bit
I quoted her my regular diagnosis charge and the costs for fuses. This
ol bitty looks at me and says, "You mean you are going to charge me
THAT much and you are already here?" Again, without skipping a beat
and already walking away I turned my head and said, "Yes mam, I sure
am". I continued on around the corner and she hopped back into her
golf cart.
Some people just dont get it.
Bubba

GaryE

2005-10-22, 11:21 am

>
>
> I get them while Im on the job too. Last one was couple weeks ago.
> Servicing 2 units at a home in a very affluent neighborhood. As I
> round the corner to my truck to retreive some more tools the next door
> neighbor (in her golf cart) stops me and asks, "Hey, What would you
> charge to come over and put fuses in my unit?" Without skipping a bit
> I quoted her my regular diagnosis charge and the costs for fuses. This
> ol bitty looks at me and says, "You mean you are going to charge me
> THAT much and you are already here?" Again, without skipping a beat
> and already walking away I turned my head and said, "Yes mam, I sure
> am". I continued on around the corner and she hopped back into her
> golf cart.
> Some people just dont get it.
> Bubba

It is funny how people think you should charge less because you're
already close to them. Like travel time is our only expense & our
service is worth less since we're close by. I wonder what made her think
she needed fuses or if she just paid to have it done & was price
checking after the fact.

--

Gary

Leave off A to reply by email : garyed_at_gte.net

When you know it can always be worse, it never seems that bad.
When you appreciate what you have, you have a lot more.

TURTLE

2005-10-22, 12:21 pm

<..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:l0ekl1pj7haot6e8lainjqo0u5i9lgvdms@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:55:52 GMT, GaryE <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
> And no one is. A simple direction 'post in alt.home.repair'
> is not 'rude'.
>
>
> That is exactly what they get.
>
>
> And that, too.
>
>
> This is not 'on the job'. This is 'at home'. How many
> complete strangers from across the country do you get calling you at
> home asking for free advice ?
>
>
> Nor do people talk to me 'face to face' the way they do here,
> for the same reason. Like Weasel, for instance.
>
>
> Yeh - the old man would pop a blood vessel.
>
>
> I can't believe you're falling for his shit. Go back and read
> his last 1,000 posts here, and THEN tell me you believe he believes
> this lie he's telling.
>

this is Turtle.

Sorry , i will have to talk to a troll for a few minutes and will get back to
the subject in a minute.

A troll like yourself will always call a person you don't like a lier, but when
everybody checks up on what the story is but will never refer to anything that
you can show to a respectiable person to see that person being a lier. I guess
liing must be your best ability.

Another point is you claiming to be a starter of the alt.hvac newsgroup. You was
not but if you say it enough over the years you may get the group to believe it.
I can't stand a lier setting up a lie to be the truth in the future. I know this
fires your rocket to flame me out of the group, but you can't let it go and just
drop it. I have always said if you wanted to drop it , i would drop it too. so
if you keep the flaming up of myself i will take it as a sign you don't want to
stop it.

well boy Paul , you don't ever want to get in a conversation with me face to
face. That is all i have to say.

Choose a path and expect to pay the price of it's fee.

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-22, 12:21 pm

"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:euOdnRF4zKx2JsTenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@centurytel.net...
>
>
> TURTLE wrote:
>
> This is Turtle.
>
> 1 The regular members of alt.hvac Group have gone on a trip where they are
> judging everybody that posts here; any members and home owners that have a
> legitimate question. If some home owner asks a dumb question, about say a
> thermostat, if someone wants to answer him or not, then that is just left up
> to the member to post or not to post. Paul can say "go away" like he regularly
> does and that is still ok. Now what happens is that the group of members, and
> especially paul, starts a war on the poster/homeowner or other members
> degrading them in an attempt to get a flame war started when there are none
> already in progress.
>
> Now this fellow who was looking for an Armstrong furnace repair manual (or
> should have said installation manual).... I did not feel the need to speak to
> him or much less start a flame war with him like a few others did.
> Professionals don't act like this, and in most cases when a flame war is
> brewing they just say nothing and stay out of it. Professionals just don't
> speak like this under any circumstance.
>
> 2) I know these will be flaming words , but I say we need to get
> back some respect by watching what we post and by putting an end to flaming
> any Billy Bob who happens in here [ awww no
> disrespect here ] who posts a dumb question! Like the Armstrong fellow asking
> for a manual, if you speak to him, then answer his question as best as you
> can. If you don't want to answer the question, just don't say anything to him
> at all. Refrain from flaming him.
>
> 3) I would like to see alt.hvac go back to trade related discussions rather
> than trying to see how many flames can be fired out in the course of the
> thread.
>
> Now if you want to flame, don't, just stfu instead.
> Now if you want a better place to discuss the HVAC trade, then speak up.
>
> --Terry
> edited for publication by Perry's Publishing & Promotion
> _______
>
> Consider that an answer to your request to speak up Turtle.
> Now, as Jesus said to the whore "Go and sin no more. Your XXX is MINE, let's
> keep it that way. So help me ME, if you aren't waiting for me when I get home
> I'll get out of the way and let those fucking natives stone your slutty XXX
> into the ground."
>
> hvacrmedic
>

This is Turtle.

As long as Paul and minions [ PBSC -- bill, steve sea breezer, and cooltemp ]
keeps the defacing or disrespectful campaign of my self up, I will fire back
flame when flamed upon. As you can see in the thread here paul is using it to
degrade me in everyway he can here. If Paul had said the same to you, you would
have a issue with him real fast.

The ideal your tring to get to is turn the other cheek and do nothing. I have
done it many times and Paul will never stop flaming anybody he hates till the
day he dies. I , one time kill filed paul for better than a week and he was
still calling me a hack, weasel, and low life, even after I was gone. I unkill
filed him and he never knew I was gone. Paul has brought hatred to a new level
in the newsgroups and flaming for the hatred of a person. you can save your
breath here for Paul will never stop flaming me out of some hatred he has for
me. So To paul Flame on.

so to you Richard , All this is not about homeowners or members flaming. It is
the flaming of Paul milligan and his ability to stop. He can't stop when the
hatred he has kicks in. i did not think a fellow could hate that much , but i
guess it can be done if you let it take over your life. Paul's Hatred and
flaming picks out people through the years and begin a campaign to remove
anybody he does not like. this year it is Turtle and next year it maybe you.

TURTLE

GaryE

2005-10-22, 1:21 pm

>
> I can't believe you're falling for his shit. Go back and read
> his last 1,000 posts here, and THEN tell me you believe he believes
> this lie he's telling.

Paul,

I don't look at it that way. What Turtle believes is not my concern.
I was just responding to what's been happening in the group.
I don't know how it got started between you guys but you evidently
pissed off the wrong guy & he's not letting things go.
Maybe his post is an armistice of sorts, at least I hope.

And Turtle:
I hope you're sincere in wanting this a better place & can refrain from
attacking Paul unless he gives you another reason.
He's pissed me off too but when the thread was over it was done.
I don't hold a grudge & I hope he doesn't either.
We just disagreed & got a little emotional like humans do at times.

--

Gary

Don't bother to reply by email, my address is incorrect.

When you know it can always be worse, it never seems that bad.
When you appreciate what you have, you have a lot more.

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2005-10-22, 1:21 pm

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:21:55 GMT, GaryE <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote:

>
>Paul,
>
>I don't look at it that way. What Turtle believes is not my concern.

What lies he posts IS.

>I was just responding to what's been happening in the group.

Read his last 1,000 posts and tell me WHO is responsible for
exactly that.

>I don't know how it got started between you guys but you evidently
>pissed off the wrong guy & he's not letting things go.

Yeh, a senile old backwoods inbred moron. Kinds of like a
snake that's too stupid to know it's dead, the jaws stay clamped.
Right around my killfile. He dreams that I even see his shit - I
don't.

>Maybe his post is an armistice of sorts, at least I hope.

That's my whole point - it's not, it's more of his lies and
bullshit. He's played this exact same card before, over and over.
Pay attention !!!!

>And Turtle:
>I hope you're sincere in wanting this a better place & can refrain from
>attacking Paul unless he gives you another reason.

PAY FUCKING ATTENTION !!!!! READ THE ABOVE !!!!

>He's pissed me off too but when the thread was over it was done.
>I don't hold a grudge & I hope he doesn't either.
>We just disagreed & got a little emotional like humans do at times.

That's OK. I dont' recall it, but apparently I'm not in your
killfile, and apparently you're not in mine. Fine.

But you really have to have a bit longer term memory about
Weasel - he's pulled this EXACT SAME GAME before, and he'll do it
again - after another spew of a few hundred or a few thousand posts
with his usual senile demented rantings and imaginings.

He's just playing you, and the group, trying to pretend he's
not the problem - WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS.

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

TURTLE

2005-10-22, 1:21 pm

<..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:rkmkl111si78f8emjv0utuij26db71p5fk@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:21:55 GMT, GaryE <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
> What lies he posts IS.
>
>
> Read his last 1,000 posts and tell me WHO is responsible for
> exactly that.
>
>
> Yeh, a senile old backwoods inbred moron. Kinds of like a
> snake that's too stupid to know it's dead, the jaws stay clamped.
> Right around my killfile. He dreams that I even see his shit - I
> don't.
>
>
> That's my whole point - it's not, it's more of his lies and
> bullshit. He's played this exact same card before, over and over.
> Pay attention !!!!
>
>
> PAY FUCKING ATTENTION !!!!! READ THE ABOVE !!!!
>
>
> That's OK. I dont' recall it, but apparently I'm not in your
> killfile, and apparently you're not in mine. Fine.
>
> But you really have to have a bit longer term memory about
> Weasel - he's pulled this EXACT SAME GAME before, and he'll do it
> again - after another spew of a few hundred or a few thousand posts
> with his usual senile demented rantings and imaginings.
>
> He's just playing you, and the group, trying to pretend he's
> not the problem - WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS.
>

This is Turtle.

To Gary

WOW , Did Paul just set you straight and tell you what to think here. Did you
see the part about you saying you did not care what turtle speaking of anything
on the group was nothing or none of your business and he told you that it was
your business and you better be apart of of the flame team to remove Turtle.

Gary , You have been told what to think and now Paul is watching you to comply.
Paul is something else. Oh Gary , You can stay on the alt.hvac group and think
like you want as far as i have to say.

To Paul.

Put the Bottle down and step back from the Key board.

TURTLE

GaryE

2005-10-22, 3:21 pm

>
> This is Turtle.
>
> To Gary
>
> WOW , Did Paul just set you straight and tell you what to think here. Did you
> see the part about you saying you did not care what turtle speaking of anything
> on the group was nothing or none of your business and he told you that it was
> your business and you better be apart of of the flame team to remove Turtle.
>
> Gary , You have been told what to think and now Paul is watching you to comply.
> Paul is something else. Oh Gary , You can stay on the alt.hvac group and think
> like you want as far as i have to say.

Now I'm confused??? I don't know what to think.
It shouldn't have to be you're either "with me or against me" mindset.
All I'm saying is if you really want alt.hvac to get back to more
discussions & less flaming then one of you guys is going to have to let
it go for a while & use a little restraint. Hopefully the other will
eventually follow suit.
A big man fights back when he thinks he can win.
A bigger man doesn't fight back when he knows he can win.

--

Gary

Do not reply by email : my address is incorrect

When you know it can always be worse, it never seems that bad.
When you appreciate what you have, you have a lot more.

Bubba

2005-10-22, 4:21 pm

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:16:48 GMT, GaryE <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote:

>
>It is funny how people think you should charge less because you're
>already close to them. Like travel time is our only expense & our
>service is worth less since we're close by. I wonder what made her think
>she needed fuses or if she just paid to have it done & was price
>checking after the fact.

My guess, since it was an older unit is that her unit has done that
before. She probably has someone that charges a decent penny when they
come out but I guess she figured that I was just 20 ft away, I would
be cheaper.
What she doesnt understand is that:
Lets just say (I wouldnt, but lets just say), I go over, pop two fuses
in, charge her half of what I would someone else, it runs and I walk
away. 15 mins, 1 hr, 2-4 hrs or the next day, it quits again. Guess
who's XXX she is going to be calling and bitchin at because I put 2
fuses in and didnt check anything else?
Not I. As far as Im concerned, it worked out just the way I wanted.
Bubba

Joseph

2005-10-22, 10:21 pm

snip
>
> Contol of the House of Representatives refers to the majority party. The
> idea that an unmoderated group cannot be controlled is erroneous at
> best, since the majority tend to flavor it with their particular brand
> of conversation while the minority are wading through what tastes to
> them exactly like shit. If the majority disliked the taste of shit, then
> the minority would find themselves shitting in the corners rather than
> in the middle of the room, scurrying in the recesses from one
> opportunity to another to place droppings in guerilla-like fashion. They
> would be wading through what tastes to them like vanilla ice cream
> sundaes, which is a flavor that they find repugnant, and they would be
> more likely to find an unoccupied room to shit in, or else one whose
> majority fancy crapping right in the middle, a place where they would be
> more at ease.
>
> Turtle is right about the number of intelligent contributors that have
> abandoned this group, and about the reasons for their leaving. I've left
> myself a time or two for exactly that reason. Turtle tried to force his
> detractors out, and this is where he went wrong. Had he heeded his own
> advice given in this thread, then like Ghandi he would've accomplished
> more with nothing more than the example that he set. He's now backing up
> and realizing that this might have been the better approach, having only
> worsened matters by stooping to the level of unconsciousness exhibited
> by others. He may not be the brightest bulb in the room, but he
> certainly used to glow the warmest. He definitely made mistakes, like
> when he came out swinging after being called out on his bad advice (and
> this was offered to him first in a rather professional manner, or at
> least I thought it was). His next big mistake was to think that a
> counter-exchange was going to accomplish anything in his favor. The best
> you can do when it comes to persuading others is to suggest rather than
> demand. Here, in this thread, he has finally figured that out.
>
> I'd like to keep up the sort of recent discussions, that are dotted with
> smilys and actually useful and OT conversation. Off topic is fine too in
> moderation.

Agree...

Who is it here that would rather frown than smile? All who
> said yeah, get help.
>
> hvacrmedic

Great post RP. I have never been an able communicator like some of the guys
here, so I tend to post infrequently.

Couple things though; one, a little arguing and flaming is not the worse thing
in the world, but the continuous incessant drone of pissing, moaning, whining and
flaming is borderline psychotic. This is probably the main cause of disinterest by
knowledgeable techs with half a brain and grandkids to play with, right Vic?. And to
agree with Sam, I think some take UseNet way to seriously. It is only for
information gathering and entertainment. Two, Turtle isn't the only one constantly
flaming, Mike and Bill are as bad or even worse. Though I think they are all tiring
of it themselves now. I am not one to plonk people either, but sometimes you just
have to. To add a third, even if you wish to hold a grudge, take your jabs at the
right time and make them count by using a little truth, wit and logic.

Joseph

---

P.S. Email joke I received today,

My wife and I are watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we are in bed.

I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?"

"No." She answered.

I then said, "Is that your final answer?"

"Yes." She replied.

Then I said, " I'd like to phone a friend."

That's the last thing I remember.

Bill

2005-10-23, 1:21 am

In article <7qi6f.1084$BW5.442@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> This is Turtle.
>
> 1 The alt.hvac Group has got on a judge trip of everybody that post here ,
> members, and home owners that ask a question. If some home owner ask a dumb
Weasel you are just mad more and more people are calling you on your
hack shit and you're feeling ganged up on.
If you had actually wanted the shit to stop you wouldn't be stirring
shit by answering old posts and sending wise-XXX emails and posting the
latest bunch of shit you posted.
You've played this game before.

> 2 i know these words will be flaming words , but i would say we need to get
> back some respect about what we post and stop flaming billy bob [ awww no
> disrespect here ]
Right weasel. That's why you talk about fucking guys mothers and all
that.

> 3 i would like to see the ALK.HVAC go back to discussion of the business
> and
> not how much flame can be fired out on the thread.

You want to post your hack shit weasel and not have anyone call you on
it.
Tough. That's why you post shit like this. To be the "good guy". Sorry
weasel, you done used up all your credibility a long ways back.

You still haven't made any apologies. You just want to go back to
playing big man and having everyone give you a pass on the shit you say.

Isn't gonna happen weasel. People will post what they will and what you
post will get responded to.

You wanted to make it personal and to be a personality contest. I see
this as another attempt at that tactic.

--

A Professional is someone who does a good job even when they don't feel like it.

TURTLE

2005-10-23, 11:21 am

"Bill" <bill@hvac.com> wrote in message
news:fZD6f.90260$tD4.57360@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> In article <7qi6f.1084$BW5.442@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Weasel you are just mad more and more people are calling you on your
> hack shit and you're feeling ganged up on.
> If you had actually wanted the shit to stop you wouldn't be stirring
> shit by answering old posts and sending wise-XXX emails and posting the
> latest bunch of shit you posted.
> You've played this game before.
>
> Right weasel. That's why you talk about fucking guys mothers and all
> that.
>
>
> You want to post your hack shit weasel and not have anyone call you on
> it.
> Tough. That's why you post shit like this. To be the "good guy". Sorry
> weasel, you done used up all your credibility a long ways back.
>
> You still haven't made any apologies. You just want to go back to
> playing big man and having everyone give you a pass on the shit you say.
>
> Isn't gonna happen weasel. People will post what they will and what you
> post will get responded to.
>
> You wanted to make it personal and to be a personality contest. I see
> this as another attempt at that tactic.
>

This is Turtle.

Hummmmmmmm, Another troll tries to justify his abilitys in trolling a person.

Bizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz , Time is up , you lost ?

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-23, 11:21 am

"Joseph" <jrpitzner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11llmtce4d1ktf8@corp.supernews.com...
> snip
>
> Agree...
>
> Who is it here that would rather frown than smile? All who
>
> Great post RP. I have never been an able communicator like some of the
> guys
> here, so I tend to post infrequently.
>
> Couple things though; one, a little arguing and flaming is not the worse
> thing
> in the world, but the continuous incessant drone of pissing, moaning, whining
> and
> flaming is borderline psychotic. This is probably the main cause of
> disinterest by
> knowledgeable techs with half a brain and grandkids to play with, right Vic?.
> And to
> agree with Sam, I think some take UseNet way to seriously. It is only for
> information gathering and entertainment. Two, Turtle isn't the only one
> constantly
> flaming, Mike and Bill are as bad or even worse. Though I think they are all
> tiring
> of it themselves now. I am not one to plonk people either, but sometimes you
> just
> have to. To add a third, even if you wish to hold a grudge, take your jabs at
> the
> right time and make them count by using a little truth, wit and logic.
>
> Joseph
>

This Is Turtle.

Joesph , You need to know this too. The only reason I'm flaming the PBSC team is
just Paul. Paul will use what is called a passing statement to call me a idiot,
hack, or low life and only does it about every 10 or 15 th post which it does
not get seen very much but it is very effective as to degrade a person slowly
and everybody not really see it and happens very slow. If you let a troll say
these things slowly and every so often, you will get a thought built up to being
what that troll was saying. So you will see me slow down on flaming the PBSC
team and then speed up. it is when he shoots off the short reply of calling me a
hack or idiot replay and i pour it on him. Now as long as The troll Paul
milligan is shooting the short troll degrading reply. i will flame his XXX till
the cows come home.

Now to Flame from billy Bob , Steve The Sea Slug , and Cooltemp. I really don't
care what they got to say but if i flame them, then you get Paul a flaming to
help out when they get beat up in the flaming. These three are too stupid for
me to even troll of flame with for they don't know what the power of suggestion
is being used in your post if they are not called on it. So flaming with these
three idiots is just get to paul from the back door.

Paul could tomorrow never speak about me or to me again and the flame war would
be over. Also he has been ask about 3 times in the last year to stop speaking or
flaming at Turtle and he said NO I speak out when I want to. here is another one
for you. If Paul left the news group today all this flaming would be over for
the other 3 minion that flame for him would be killed filed and not listen to at
all.

The last thing here. As long as Paul wants this flame war to go on, it will go
on. All Paul has to say is OK let's stop . Then it is all over. He will never
say it because it would show that he give in to something in someway.

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-23, 11:21 am

<..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:mvakl1phi6k674odtque677g87acat2ged@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:07:09 -0500, RP <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> No, he's not. He's just playing his weasel game as usual.
>
>
> Watch when he starts in again with his insane drooling
> playground insults and demented threats, and then see what he has
> 'figured out'.
>

This is Turtle.

In this thread you refer to me as a Weasel , other threads you refer to me as
idiot, Others you refer to me as a hack ------- Then yes , we are going to play
a school yard games of flaming as long as you keep shooting off your mouth like
this.

Now Also , I will stay at the stupidest level of Paul Milligan as long as it
takes for him to understand that time means nothing to me and you can stop it
with just a few words from his mouth. He will not do it for holding on a grip of
the althvac newsgroup is his whole lifes dream and will never give up his dream.
i'm messing with his dream with speaking out of turn here.

Hey Paul , I like that one of your you said i was giving you a insane drooling
playground insults and demented threats. i'll have to remember that one.

TURTLE

Bill

2005-10-23, 1:21 pm

In article <_mM6f.5575$Ha4.4539@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> This is Turtle.
>
> In this thread you refer to me as a Weasel , other threads you refer to me as
> idiot, Others you refer to me as a hack ------- Then yes , we are going to
> play

Thanks for proving all our points weasel. That your post was the
bullshit we said it was.

--

A Professional is someone who does a good job even when they don't feel like it.

2005-10-23, 2:21 pm

Bill wrote:
> In article <_mM6f.5575$Ha4.4539@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks for proving all our points weasel. That your post was the
> bullshit we said it was.

Apparently you were right. I'm out of the debate for good. I hope you
guys manage to work it out one way or the other, but it doesn't seem
likely. Paul has already beat Terry, right out of the gate, by not
replying to Terry's trollish remark that came within seconds of the
prediction that he would do so. Again, good luck with it. I generally
don't even read the posts where Turtle is replying to you, Paul, or
Steve, or those where you guys are replying to him. It's not quite
killfiling, I call it selective killfiling. I'll continue to reply to
all of you depending upon context, but not a word further about this feud.

hvacrmedic

TURTLE

2005-10-23, 8:21 pm

"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:EPednZGuYJ8LJsbeRVn-gQ@centurytel.net...
>
>
> Bill wrote:
>
> Apparently you were right. I'm out of the debate for good. I hope you guys
> manage to work it out one way or the other, but it doesn't seem likely. Paul
> has already beat Terry, right out of the gate, by not replying to Terry's
> trollish remark that came within seconds of the prediction that he would do
> so. Again, good luck with it. I generally don't even read the posts where
> Turtle is replying to you, Paul, or Steve, or those where you guys are
> replying to him. It's not quite killfiling, I call it selective killfiling.
> I'll continue to reply to all of you depending upon context, but not a word
> further about this feud.
>
> hvacrmedic
>

This is Turtle.

Richard , i wish this was not the story but it is true and I'm not very versed
in the internet trolls and hatred games to be plaied by the smart trolls of
today. as far as i'm concerned the PBSC team is just a team of trolls set out to
control a newsgroup. i am business smart but not internet newsgroup game playing
smart. So i can be not a very good troll like Paul is by me being predictiable
with a flame or answer , but i do know one thing here. Right now the PBSC team
and Paul Milligan has been exposes as a control freak or even a troll but
myself being cought up in being a troll or trouble maker. It is against my way
of thinking to speak their way but i just plaied the game to a point where all
of these trolls had to play there cards to try to hold on to Paul's hold on the
group. Well i think i have done my job as drawing a line between the PBSC Team
and the regular posters and they can see how to post in the future.

Also there was one thing that i would like to let you in on. i really was never
playing any game but just jerking Pauls chain and getting his flame team to try
to flame myself off the alt.hvac group. Then by the time he figured out he cough
not do it he had exposed all of his flame team that was suppose to degrade
anybody that paul milligan wanted off the group. So now everybody in the group
knows who the flame team is of pauls and who to tell anything personal to. Any
one of the PBSC team is not to be trusted with personal info for if they don't
like you. they will flame you with the personal info they know about you. Years
ago there was maybe 300+ active members and now that Paul and the PBSC flame
team has been set up. There is maybe now atbest 20 Active members today. HVAC
people do not like to hear about flaming of someone paul does not like but about
the HVAC business and the work going on it the field.

So i think I have gotten some lea way of getting any person to have a open
discussion of the hvac business with out Paul Milligan interrupting it with his
personal opinions. So if anybody thinks flaming is a way to get your way on the
alt.hvac. you going to be surpised and find someone flaming back till the cows
come home. Can you hear me Paul milligan.

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-23, 9:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:lGU6f.2691$NJ.1530@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:EPednZGuYJ8LJsbeRVn-gQ@centurytel.net...
>
> This is Turtle.
>
> Richard , i wish this was not the story but it is true and I'm not very
> versed in the internet trolls and hatred games to be plaied by the smart
> trolls of today. as far as i'm concerned the PBSC team is just a team of
> trolls set out to control a newsgroup. i am business smart but not
> internet newsgroup game playing smart. So i can be not a very good troll
> like Paul is by me being predictiable with a flame or answer , but i do
> know one thing here. Right now the PBSC team and Paul Milligan has been
> exposes as a control freak or even a troll but myself being cought up in
> being a troll or trouble maker. It is against my way of thinking to speak
> their way but i just plaied the game to a point where all of these trolls
> had to play there cards to try to hold on to Paul's hold on the group.
> Well i think i have done my job as drawing a line between the PBSC Team
> and the regular posters and they can see how to post in the future.
>
> Also there was one thing that i would like to let you in on. i really was
> never playing any game but just jerking Pauls chain and getting his flame
> team to try to flame myself off the alt.hvac group. Then by the time he
> figured out he cough not do it he had exposed all of his flame team that
> was suppose to degrade anybody that paul milligan wanted off the group. So
> now everybody in the group knows who the flame team is of pauls and who to
> tell anything personal to. Any one of the PBSC team is not to be trusted
> with personal info for if they don't like you. they will flame you with
> the personal info they know about you. Years ago there was maybe 300+
> active members and now that Paul and the PBSC flame team has been set up.
> There is maybe now atbest 20 Active members today. HVAC people do not like
> to hear about flaming of someone paul does not like but about the HVAC
> business and the work going on it the field.
>
> So i think I have gotten some lea way of getting any person to have a open
> discussion of the hvac business with out Paul Milligan interrupting it
> with his personal opinions. So if anybody thinks flaming is a way to get
> your way on the alt.hvac. you going to be surpised and find someone
> flaming back till the cows come home. Can you hear me Paul milligan.
>
> TURTLE

So..what you are saying, is do as YOU DEMAND, not WHAT YOU DO..cause its ok
for you to be a first class dick, but if anyone calls you out on it, you
will take your toys and go cry to someone that gives a damn..

>

TURTLE

2005-10-23, 10:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
news:TXU6f.266$EP6.1471@eagle.america.net...
>
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:lGU6f.2691$NJ.1530@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> So..what you are saying, is do as YOU DEMAND, not WHAT YOU DO..cause its ok
> for you to be a first class dick, but if anyone calls you out on it, you will
> take your toys and go cry to someone that gives a damn..
>

This is Turtle.

you are not very smart in what is going on.

if you don't flame me -- i don't flame you.

If you flame me -- i flame you.

i had to break it down for you to understand but i guess you will still get it
screwed up.

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-24, 3:21 am

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:wNV6f.2747$NJ.211@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
> news:TXU6f.266$EP6.1471@eagle.america.net...
>
> This is Turtle.
>
> you are not very smart in what is going on.
>
> if you don't flame me -- i don't flame you.
>
> If you flame me -- i flame you.
>
> i had to break it down for you to understand but i guess you will still
> get it screwed up.
>
> TURTLE

I know exactly what is going on, and so does everyone with an IQ over 5.
Shame you aint got it yet.

>

TURTLE

2005-10-24, 12:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
news:_0_6f.275$EP6.1460@eagle.america.net...
>
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:wNV6f.2747$NJ.211@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>
> I know exactly what is going on, and so does everyone with an IQ over 5.
> Shame you aint got it yet.
>

This is Turtle

That is a old one and you need to use one less than 20 years old.

TURTLE

~^Johnny^~

2005-10-24, 4:21 pm

~^Johnny^~

2005-10-24, 4:21 pm

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:53:31 -0500, "TURTLE"
<turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
>"Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:sucjl1pl1dr6tmmgud00bflrn0i1pkq7hg@4ax.com...
>
>This is Turtrle.
>
>as I see here we have three wise men speaking but speaking only flame starters
>to someone saying the bad word respect.
>
>Also down here you would be lost speaking to the customers for they a lot of
>times speak broken french or broken Indian . English is the second language down
>here.
>
>TURTLE
>

Just because you're Cajun, doesn't mean you shouldn't learn fluent
American English. How long have you lived in Louisiana?

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

~^Johnny^~

2005-10-24, 4:21 pm

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:35:06 -0700, "PrecisionMachinisT"
<precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Nobody ( including you ) is ever gonna be able to control an unmoderated
>usenet group, and any appearance of there being any control whatsoever is
>but an illusion.
>
>Deal with it.

"Cold hearted orb rules the night
Removes the colors from our sight.
Red is gray, and yellow, white
But we decide which is right,
and which is an illusion."

-Graeme Edge
--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

TURTLE

2005-10-25, 12:21 am

"~^Johnny^~" <nospam@gyrogearloose.com> wrote in message
news:u0bql197q3u3j5hm30qvv0k4j0r1bo5vlr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:53:31 -0500, "TURTLE"
> <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Just because you're Cajun, doesn't mean you shouldn't learn fluent
> American English. How long have you lived in Louisiana?
>
> --
> -john
> wide-open at throttle dot info

This is Turtle.

I have live all my life in Louisiana 55 years.

Also here there is about 90% of the population that speaks broken english and if
90% of my customers speak dog shit language then I will speak it too. i will
speak what they speak to keep them as customers.

Also Why would I want to speak fluent American English and everytime i would
speak , people would look at me funny or ask you was there something wrong with
you !

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-25, 1:21 am

"Bubba" <ReMoVeLikealake@iname.com> wrote in message
news:rfekl19gsdpf3vf45vivrtuqmeborkpstm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:55:52 GMT, GaryE <Agaryed@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
> I get them while Im on the job too. Last one was couple weeks ago.
> Servicing 2 units at a home in a very affluent neighborhood. As I
> round the corner to my truck to retreive some more tools the next door
> neighbor (in her golf cart) stops me and asks, "Hey, What would you
> charge to come over and put fuses in my unit?" Without skipping a bit
> I quoted her my regular diagnosis charge and the costs for fuses. This
> ol bitty looks at me and says, "You mean you are going to charge me
> THAT much and you are already here?" Again, without skipping a beat
> and already walking away I turned my head and said, "Yes mam, I sure
> am". I continued on around the corner and she hopped back into her
> golf cart.
> Some people just dont get it.
> Bubba

This is Turtle.

I think Sears has this all figured out years ago. A fellow I knew had a bad
compressor on his refrigerator and it was still under warranty and I got him to
call out Sears to repl;ace the compressor under Kenmore warranty for if it has
Kenmore on it you have to get Sears to warranty it. I had aleady looked at it
and tested it to be a bad compressor or low on freon but you can't put a tap on
it to see but both things are under the 5 year warranty. i came over when the
Sears fellow got there and the sears fellow looked at it and agreed it was the
compressor when he put a tap on it to see it was full of freon but in-efficent
compressor. we step out side talking to the Sear servivce man as to set up a
date to change it. The Next door Neightbor came over and ask the Sears fellow to
look at his ceiling fan since he was already there and thought it would be a
discount. The Sears man said yes i will look at it but i will have to charge you
a service call which the fellow had no ideal what sears got for a service call
40 miles out of town in nowhere. He looked at it and told him it had a burnt
motor and got him to sign a service sheet which he had a Sears credit card. The
fellow did not look at the price at the time but the sears fellow left and we
was out side there and he looked at what it could to tell him he had a bad motor
on a $39.00 ceiling fan. He charged him round trip charges for 80 miles round
trip at $.50 a mile, $55.00 service call, and $22.00 A-1 tap valve. He charged
him $117.00 + Sales Tax to look at a $39.00 Ceiling fan. Now this was 10 years
ago. the fellow got wired up about all it but the big one was the sears fellow
charged 7 other people in town the $40.00 fuel mileage on 80 miles round trip.
The last i heard , he was still fighting Sears over that charges and tring to
get his money back. You can't win when you sign that work order sheet.

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-25, 1:21 am

"~^Johnny^~" <nospam@gyrogearloose.com> wrote in message
news:fuaql15r2tboe5min7ru3j2a93qo9glv7i@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:37:40 GMT, Al Moran <almoran@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Chop!
>
> I agree.
>
> Terry, your English is terrible. Admit it.
>
> --
> -john
> wide-open at throttle dot info

This is Turtle.

UnChop My English is terrible to say the least ! There You go. Now Chop Back !

TURTLE

Dido

2005-10-25, 4:21 pm

Common Johnny
you should know by now if you want to work
on ac you must learn to speak interracial
language after all you are working on
foreign made equipment I did Ha ha
from Dido

"~^Johnny^~" <nospam@gyrogearloose.com> wrote in message
news:fuaql15r2tboe5min7ru3j2a93qo9glv7i@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:37:40 GMT, Al Moran <almoran@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Chop!
>
> I agree.
>
> Terry, your English is terrible. Admit it.
>
> --
> -john
> wide-open at throttle dot info

LinkBot