Heating and air conditioning - Homeowners can be soooooo cheap

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Homeowners can be soooooo cheap

Al Moran

2005-10-23, 10:21 am

About a week ago I go to do a heat maintenance on a 6 month old
American Standard we installed. I am at the thermostat, which happens
to be very close to the closet the system is in. I turn it on and hear
a strange noise when the inducer comes on. I ask the homeowner if he
had a roof put on the house after we installed the furnace, and of
course, the answer is yes. I explain to him the problems that can be
caused by this, then tell him I'll pull the inducer and clean
everything out of there for 99.00. He looks in the system and decides
he can do it himself. Fine I say, but if you mess something up you
void your warranty. So what do you think my first call was yesterday?
That's right, said genius took the motor out and threw the gasket
away, which is causing the pressure switch to not prove pressure
because it is sucking air in around the inducer housing.

So now he pays 59.00 for the service call (diagnostic fee), which he
bitches about because "you knew what was wrong when you came out
here". I have to explain, no, all I knew was that you worked on it.
Then I charge him 5.00 for the gasket and 99.00 to clean the thing
right.

Service Call - 59.00

Gasket - 5.00

Cleaning Inducer - 99.00

Doing it your self - Stupid

Seeing look on customers face when bill is presented - Priceless!

Bubba

2005-10-23, 11:21 am

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:30:04 GMT, Al Moran <almoran@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>About a week ago I go to do a heat maintenance on a 6 month old
>American Standard we installed. I am at the thermostat, which happens
>to be very close to the closet the system is in. I turn it on and hear
>a strange noise when the inducer comes on. I ask the homeowner if he
>had a roof put on the house after we installed the furnace, and of
>course, the answer is yes. I explain to him the problems that can be
>caused by this, then tell him I'll pull the inducer and clean
>everything out of there for 99.00. He looks in the system and decides
>he can do it himself. Fine I say, but if you mess something up you
>void your warranty. So what do you think my first call was yesterday?
>That's right, said genius took the motor out and threw the gasket
>away, which is causing the pressure switch to not prove pressure
>because it is sucking air in around the inducer housing.
>
>So now he pays 59.00 for the service call (diagnostic fee), which he
>bitches about because "you knew what was wrong when you came out
>here". I have to explain, no, all I knew was that you worked on it.
>Then I charge him 5.00 for the gasket and 99.00 to clean the thing
>right.
>
>Service Call - 59.00
>
>Gasket - 5.00
>
>Cleaning Inducer - 99.00
>
>Doing it your self - Stupid
>
>Seeing look on customers face when bill is presented - Priceless!

We cant help it if you dont charge enough. :-)
Especially that service call..
I charged that about 10 yrs ago.
Bubba

Al Moran

2005-10-23, 11:21 am

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:26:35 GMT, Bubba <ReMoVe likealake@iname.com>
wrote:

>
>We cant help it if you dont charge enough. :-)
>Especially that service call..
>I charged that about 10 yrs ago.
>Bubba

I agree, that is real cheap for a service call. I just charge what
they tell me to charge.

Bubba

2005-10-23, 12:21 pm

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:31:49 GMT, Al Moran <almoran@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:26:35 GMT, Bubba <ReMoVe likealake@iname.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>I agree, that is real cheap for a service call. I just charge what
>they tell me to charge.

My bad. I was thinking you were an owner. :-)
Bubba

TURTLE

2005-10-23, 6:21 pm

"Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> About a week ago I go to do a heat maintenance on a 6 month old
> American Standard we installed. I am at the thermostat, which happens
> to be very close to the closet the system is in. I turn it on and hear
> a strange noise when the inducer comes on. I ask the homeowner if he
> had a roof put on the house after we installed the furnace, and of
> course, the answer is yes. I explain to him the problems that can be
> caused by this, then tell him I'll pull the inducer and clean
> everything out of there for 99.00. He looks in the system and decides
> he can do it himself. Fine I say, but if you mess something up you
> void your warranty. So what do you think my first call was yesterday?
> That's right, said genius took the motor out and threw the gasket
> away, which is causing the pressure switch to not prove pressure
> because it is sucking air in around the inducer housing.
>
> So now he pays 59.00 for the service call (diagnostic fee), which he
> bitches about because "you knew what was wrong when you came out
> here". I have to explain, no, all I knew was that you worked on it.
> Then I charge him 5.00 for the gasket and 99.00 to clean the thing
> right.
>
> Service Call - 59.00
>
> Gasket - 5.00
>
> Cleaning Inducer - 99.00
>
> Doing it your self - Stupid
>
> Seeing look on customers face when bill is presented - Priceless!

This is Turtle.

I'm sure glade you are not working in Louisiana for this is treated very
differently. Louisiana has a 1 year law about warranty of equipment by the
contractor who put the equipment in. We have so many fly by nite company that
this law was put into effect. A customer that knows about the laws will tell you
right then when you told him you was not fixing it under the warranty, that he
would be calling another contractor to come fix it and then will be filing a
case in small claims court on you, roofing contractor, and anybody involved. you
will appear in the small claims court on monday morning court and sit with the
other contractor that did not want to warrant the equipment. while your there
you better show the customer the exact cause to have it in court that it was not
your fault, but your still going to be one of the defendents on monday morning
small claims court.

The HVAC Company owner & Servicing Tech appearing in court on monday morning --
priceless !

this group , We , and the hvac group as a whole has adopted the ideal that there
is a war between the HVAC companys and the customers on the other side. The
reason this group does not grow is it is drawing a line between the hvac
companys and the customers. then the customers then start drawing the line
between them and the hvac company as being the one out to get them. this is How
we have become the bad guys through the years.

Also i would never get any pleasure out of seeing a person fail at tring to fix
something hisself and the customer today knows about this pleasure getting of
the techs and hvac business owners.

Professionals don't get pleasure out of failure of others !

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-23, 10:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:njvml1djepktlc9plensi405a33oph9ecu@4ax.com...
>
> This is Turtle.
>
> I'm sure glade you are not working in Louisiana for this is treated very
> differently. Louisiana has a 1 year law about warranty of equipment by the
> contractor who put the equipment in. We have so many fly by nite company
> that this law was put into effect. A customer that knows about the laws
> will tell you right then when you told him you was not fixing it under the
> warranty, that he would be calling another contractor to come fix it and
> then will be filing a case in small claims court on you, roofing
> contractor, and anybody involved. you will appear in the small claims
> court on monday morning court and sit with the other contractor that did
> not want to warrant the equipment. while your there you better show the
> customer the exact cause to have it in court that it was not your fault,
> but your still going to be one of the defendents on monday morning small
> claims court.
>
> The HVAC Company owner & Servicing Tech appearing in court on monday
> morning -- priceless !
>
> this group , We , and the hvac group as a whole has adopted the ideal that
> there is a war between the HVAC companys and the customers on the other
> side. The reason this group does not grow is it is drawing a line between
> the hvac companys and the customers. then the customers then start drawing
> the line between them and the hvac company as being the one out to get
> them. this is How we have become the bad guys through the years.
>
> Also i would never get any pleasure out of seeing a person fail at tring
> to fix something hisself and the customer today knows about this pleasure
> getting of the techs and hvac business owners.
>
> Professionals don't get pleasure out of failure of others !

Practice what you type terry...

Also, your so called law...let me explain something to you...

NC has a THREE YEAR term that you can sued under.
LAs so called law, would be like ANY OTHER states that it would allow for an
inclusion of tampering, and I can tell you now...if what you say is true,
then LA MUST HAVE A STATEWIDE LICENCE, and they dont....
I do know enough that if what you say is true, every so called contractor in
teh state needs to sue the state.

>
> TURTLE
>

TURTLE

2005-10-23, 10:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Practice what you type terry...
>
> Also, your so called law...let me explain something to you...
>
> NC has a THREE YEAR term that you can sued under.
> LAs so called law, would be like ANY OTHER states that it would allow for an
> inclusion of tampering, and I can tell you now...if what you say is true, then
> LA MUST HAVE A STATEWIDE LICENCE, and they dont....
> I do know enough that if what you say is true, every so called contractor in
> teh state needs to sue the state.
>

This is Turtle

There you go judging the laws of the sates and making them sound like you would
have them and not accept what they are. i do know by your speaking here you do
not know about any of the registration of contractors in Louisiana at all or you
would not be saying all this bull.

Like you say all hvac contractor must have licences in Louisiana to have to have
a 10 years term for fraud if bullshit of your. If this would be true then all
con artist would have to have a state operator licences to steal from the poor
or from the customers.

TURTLE

Al Moran

2005-10-23, 11:21 pm

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:25:59 -0500, "TURTLE"
<turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>I'm sure glade you are not working in Louisiana for this is treated very
>differently. Louisiana has a 1 year law about warranty of equipment by the
>contractor who put the equipment in. We have so many fly by nite company that
>this law was put into effect.

So by your logic, the customer could blast the thing with some double
ot buck shot and still have it warrantied. A lawyer you're certainly
not. A dumbass yes. Why don't you just stick to what you know,
whatever that is? Are you related to Forrest Gump by chance?

TURTLE

2005-10-24, 12:21 am

"Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:25:59 -0500, "TURTLE"
> <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> So by your logic, the customer could blast the thing with some double
> ot buck shot and still have it warrantied. A lawyer you're certainly
> not. A dumbass yes. Why don't you just stick to what you know,
> whatever that is? Are you related to Forrest Gump by chance?

This is Turtle

I see your not a business man by missing the part of missing work on monday
morning by being a butt hole to a customer. if you know your going to be drawed
into a gun fire here. You would be talking about you helping them with a few
form to explain what the problem was and help dealing with it. here we have to
deal with them. where you live at still let any contractor smile when the do
them wrong. I have run a company just about all my life and have had some good
techs but stupid about business like you. i was told all my life that the
quickest way to the poor house is to let your techs make your judgement calls
for you. well what did your superviser say ?

Al if i thought you knew what a judgement call was , i would discuss it with
you. Now what i've heard here you need a boss like paul and he would be your
kind of boss. Then You would be unemployeed and he will be in a trailor house
bitching about some Turtle fellow.

Yes Al , i'm not that smart in the words of the mouth but i have run a business
for 40+ years and seen just about every way to mess up there is but as you say ,
You don't need to know about the screw up coming your way because you can ask
old Paul the software salesman to guide to though the hard times.

Hey , I'm not kind to Forest but he had some real thought about life to think
about.

TURTLE

Al Moran

2005-10-24, 2:21 am

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:31:53 -0500, "TURTLE"
<turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>This is Turtle
>
>I see your not a business man by missing the part of missing work on monday
>morning by being a butt hole to a customer. if you know your going to be drawed
>into a gun fire here. You would be talking about you helping them with a few
>form to explain what the problem was and help dealing with it. here we have to
>deal with them. where you live at still let any contractor smile when the do
>them wrong. I have run a company just about all my life and have had some good
>techs but stupid about business like you. i was told all my life that the
>quickest way to the poor house is to let your techs make your judgement calls
>for you. well what did your superviser say ?
>
>Al if i thought you knew what a judgement call was , i would discuss it with
>you. Now what i've heard here you need a boss like paul and he would be your
>kind of boss. Then You would be unemployeed and he will be in a trailor house
>bitching about some Turtle fellow.
>
>Yes Al , i'm not that smart in the words of the mouth but i have run a business
>for 40+ years and seen just about every way to mess up there is but as you say ,
>You don't need to know about the screw up coming your way because you can ask
>old Paul the software salesman to guide to though the hard times.
>
>Hey , I'm not kind to Forest but he had some real thought about life to think
>about.
>
>TURTLE

I'd respond to that but I have no earthly idea what you just said.I
can only imagine when your business associates get a letter from you
they must just scratch their heads in wonderment.

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-24, 3:21 am

"Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:31:53 -0500, "TURTLE"
> <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I'd respond to that but I have no earthly idea what you just said.I
> can only imagine when your business associates get a letter from you
> they must just scratch their heads in wonderment.

First it would say, No flaming, or i flame you....unless I feel like
superman, then I say what I want since I do this 46...45..or maybe 40
years...if you count the child labor.

LETTER??? He is a one man band, and its a small town...all hes got to do is
yell out his back door, like they did in teh old days..

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2005-10-24, 10:21 am

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 04:29:31 GMT, Al Moran <almoran@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:31:53 -0500, "TURTLE"
><turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
[color=darkred]
>
>
>I'd respond to that but I have no earthly idea what you just said.I
>can only imagine when your business associates get a letter from you
>they must just scratch their heads in wonderment.

It's not their heads.

Remember, he started running service calls when he was 6.

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TURTLE

2005-10-24, 12:21 pm

<..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 04:29:31 GMT, Al Moran <almoran@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> It's not their heads.
>
> Remember, he started running service calls when he was 6.
>

This is Turtle.

Hummmm , Paul , You see a new menion to follow you. now watch what you say to no
scare him off.

TURTLE

Bob Pietrangelo

2005-10-24, 11:21 pm

IF installed equipment is damaged by something or someone other than the
contractor or manufacturer, I do not believe it is nor it should be covered
under warranty. The first clue was roofers, the second was the homeowner
removeing the inducer, removing the debris, and not putting the equipment
back together properly. It should have been a $300 call.

--
Bob Pietrangelo
bobp3@comcast.net
bob@comfort-solution.biz
www.comfort-solution.biz
On Time or Your Service Call is FREE
Preventive Maintenance Specialist

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:hvS6f.6449$Pp1.5732@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
>
> Practice what you type terry...
>
> Also, your so called law...let me explain something to you...
>
> NC has a THREE YEAR term that you can sued under.
> LAs so called law, would be like ANY OTHER states that it would allow for
> an inclusion of tampering, and I can tell you now...if what you say is
> true, then LA MUST HAVE A STATEWIDE LICENCE, and they dont....
> I do know enough that if what you say is true, every so called contractor
> in teh state needs to sue the state.
>
>
>

TURTLE

2005-10-25, 12:21 am

"Bob Pietrangelo" <bobp3@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> IF installed equipment is damaged by something or someone other than the
> contractor or manufacturer, I do not believe it is nor it should be covered
> under warranty. The first clue was roofers, the second was the homeowner
> removeing the inducer, removing the debris, and not putting the equipment back
> together properly. It should have been a $300 call.
>
> --
> Bob Pietrangelo
> bobp3@comcast.net
> bob@comfort-solution.biz
> www.comfort-solution.biz
> On Time or Your Service Call is FREE
> Preventive Maintenance Specialist

This is Turtle.

i was going to explain this differently here but i will not for i may call your
mother a bad name and get your drawer in a not.

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-25, 3:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob Pietrangelo" <bobp3@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> This is Turtle.
>
> i was going to explain this differently here but i will not for i may call
> your mother a bad name and get your drawer in a not.
>
> TURTLE
>

No flame...but you are saying, its ok for the homeowner to screw something
up, and you fix it for free, even thou the warranty clearly states that
abuse, neglect, things liek that are not covered.....

Ok....

Jabs

2005-10-25, 3:21 pm

Al,
Your employer must pay shit for wages. How the hell do you ever expect to
move into a double-wide?

Jabs

"Al Moran" <almoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:26:35 GMT, Bubba <ReMoVe likealake@iname.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I agree, that is real cheap for a service call. I just charge what
> they tell me to charge.

Jabs

2005-10-25, 3:21 pm

Terry,
I'm convinced the State of Louisiana *is* fly by night.

Jabs

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> We have so many fly by nite company that......

Power's Mechanical

2005-10-25, 8:21 pm

Al,
Your employer must pay shit for wages. How the hell do you ever expect
to
move into a double-wide?

Jabs
xxxx

Some people are content with single wides. Just ask pj, he is happy as
hell in his.

TURTLE

2005-10-25, 9:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> No flame...but you are saying, its ok for the homeowner to screw something up,
> and you fix it for free, even thou the warranty clearly states that abuse,
> neglect, things liek that are not covered.....
>
> Ok....
>
>

This is Turtle.

Yes , You must be good at reading peoples mines for knowing whjat i was going to
answer with to the question.

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-25, 10:21 pm

"Jabs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Terry,
> I'm convinced the State of Louisiana *is* fly by night.
>
> Jabs
>

This is Turtle.

I will not argue with on it being so for it just might be true.

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-25, 11:21 pm

"Power's Mechanical" <pusher100@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Al,
> Your employer must pay shit for wages. How the hell do you ever expect
> to
> move into a double-wide?
>
>
> Jabs
> xxxx
>
> Some people are content with single wides. Just ask pj, he is happy as
> hell in his.
>

This is Turtle

But sometimes the Pussey don't like the single wide.

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-26, 5:21 am

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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>
> This is Turtle.
>
> Yes , You must be good at reading peoples mines for knowing whjat i was
> going to answer with to the question.
>
> TURTLE
>

Well, this isnt a flame either, but if you fix something for free, from a
customer abuse issue, then its no damn wonder you are still a one man band.

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-26, 5:21 am

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Jabs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> This is Turtle.
>
> I will not argue with on it being so for it just might be true.
>
> TURTLE
>

You didnt get that did you Terry?

I mean..you didnt understand what he said.

Let me simplify it for you...

Real simple..

Terry=hack

gofish@gonefishin.net

2005-10-26, 10:21 am

>Well, this isnt a flame either, but if you fix something for free, from a
>customer abuse issue, then its no damn wonder you are still a one man band.
>
>
As with most everything in life, we can measure wealth in many different ways.
For you, that may be surrounding yourself with dollars and material things,
which is perfectly ok.

Just dont make the mistake of assuming everyone else is operating with the same
CHOICE of values, or imply that YOUR choice of values is superior to someone
elses choice of values.

TURTLE

2005-10-26, 12:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> You didnt get that did you Terry?
>
> I mean..you didnt understand what he said.
>
> Let me simplify it for you...
>
> Real simple..
>
> Terry=hack
>

This is Turtle.

Let me simplify it more for you to understand it.

Jab said the whole state of Louisiana is a Hack.

Turtle says , I can't argue the subject for it might be true.

Sea Breezer says, The whole state of louisiana is a hack , which makes Turtle a
Hack.

Turtle again, If you dream that the whole state of louisiana is a Hack , then
turtle could be a Hack because he lives in a Hacker State.

now Let's start on getting to N.C. or Calf. being a Hacker State. do i hear a
Motion to Start the rulling.

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-26, 4:21 pm

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> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
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> This is Turtle.
>
> Let me simplify it more for you to understand it.
>
> Jab said the whole state of Louisiana is a Hack.
>
> Turtle says , I can't argue the subject for it might be true.
>
> Sea Breezer says, The whole state of louisiana is a hack , which makes
> Turtle a Hack.
>
> Turtle again, If you dream that the whole state of louisiana is a Hack ,
> then turtle could be a Hack because he lives in a Hacker State.
>
> now Let's start on getting to N.C. or Calf. being a Hacker State. do i
> hear a Motion to Start the rulling.
>
> TURTLE
>

Yea...lets...since CA and NC have two of the more agressive licence
boards....

Something you would know nothing about.

TURTLE

2005-10-27, 3:21 am

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
news:YuP7f.32$DP.156@eagle.america.net...
>
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:IHM7f.13074$ty1.821@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
> Yea...lets...since CA and NC have two of the more agressive licence boards....
>
> Something you would know nothing about.
>

This is Turtle.

You are right there. i don't get into writting regulation but just run my
company and let you and your kind play with the rules.

OH , Writting a bunch of rules does not stop the state from becoming a hacking
state or even a stupid one.

TRURTLE

Cooltemp Industries

2005-10-27, 10:21 am

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote

> now Let's start on getting to N.C. or Calf. being a Hacker State. do i
> hear a Motion to Start the rulling.

No, you hear voices.
Now shut the fuck up, you idiot.

Cooltemp Industries

2005-10-27, 10:21 am

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote

> i don't get into writting regulation but just run
> my company and let you and your kind play with the rules.

Are you related to Homer Simpson?

TURTLE

2005-10-27, 1:21 pm

"Cooltemp Industries >" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96FC5475BDD19gbrodericksunlifecom@216.196.97.142...
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote
>
>
>
> No, you hear voices.
> Now shut the fuck up, you idiot.

This is Turtle.

OOOOHHHH , Did I hit a Nerve ? Or did you think about you being a hack working
in the business.

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-27, 1:21 pm

"Cooltemp Industries >" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96FC54AA25ABCgbrodericksunlifecom@216.196.97.142...
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote
>
>
> Are you related to Homer Simpson?

This is Turtle.

No But I married to in laws that would resemble you and Homer !

TURTLE

Cooltemp Industries

2005-10-27, 5:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote

> No But I married to in laws that would resemble you and Homer !

Poor, poor Turd-le!
Just can't get no respect, so he tries to smear those that point out his
many short-comings.
Go ahead, Turd-for-brains, call all your critics hacks, or gay, or gay
hacks....it doesn't matter.
You have been exposed!!!!

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-28, 1:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:hsZ7f.11500$wG.6579@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
> news:YuP7f.32$DP.156@eagle.america.net...
>
> This is Turtle.
>
> You are right there. i don't get into writting regulation but just run my
> company and let you and your kind play with the rules.
>
> OH , Writting a bunch of rules does not stop the state from becoming a
> hacking state or even a stupid one.
>
> TRURTLE
>

TRue..look what happens when there are no codes to enforce...like in your
state...

TURTLE

2005-10-28, 2:21 pm

"Cooltemp Industries >" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96FC9CD67572Agbrodericksunlifecom@216.196.97.142...
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote
>
>
>
>
> Poor, poor Turd-le!
> Just can't get no respect, so he tries to smear those that point out his
> many short-comings.
> Go ahead, Turd-for-brains, call all your critics hacks, or gay, or gay
> hacks....it doesn't matter.
> You have been exposed!!!!

This is Turtle.

hey , Could you say all that again for my Mumble hearing Device is not working ?

TURTLE

TURTLE

2005-10-28, 2:21 pm

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
news:vqr8f.9$pc1.495@eagle.america.net...
>
> "TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:hsZ7f.11500$wG.6579@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
> TRue..look what happens when there are no codes to enforce...like in your
> state...
>

This is Turtle.

Are you Deef or do you like to repeat yourself ?

TURTLE

Cooltemp Industries

2005-10-28, 2:21 pm

TURTLE wrote:

> Are you Deef or do you like to repeat yourself ?

Dance Turd-le, dance!! Your diversionary tactics aren't working!

TURTLE

2005-10-29, 1:21 am

"Cooltemp Industries" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
news:43625B2C.9070805@sunlife.com...
>
>
> TURTLE wrote:
>
>
>
> Dance Turd-le, dance!! Your diversionary tactics aren't working!
>

This is Turtle.

OK You have a bad memory and we will accept it !

TURTLE

Carolina Breeze HVAC

2005-10-29, 7:21 pm

"TURTLE" <turtle4aire@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:iks8f.20320$x6.9015@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Carolina Breeze HVAC" <steve@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote in message
> news:vqr8f.9$pc1.495@eagle.america.net...
>
> This is Turtle.
>
> Are you Deef or do you like to repeat yourself ?
>
> TURTLE
>

Aww....bless your little heart....

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