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Strange cylces on Carrier 58GP100-BA
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| GACAttak 2005-11-25, 2:21 am |
| My Carrier 58GP100-BA has what I think is a strange cycle. It starts
with the burner running for 1 minute. Then the blower kicks in, and 15
seconds later the burner shuts off. The blower will run for 2 min, 45
seconds before it shuts off and the burner turns back on and the
process repeats. A timetable is shown below.
t=0 Burner turns on
t=60 Blower turns on
t=75 Burner turns off
t=240 Blower turns off, Burner turns on
t=300 Blower turns on
etc.
A few years back the whole thing shut down because of a blown thermal
fuse. That was replaced and things seemed to be back to normal, though
the system never seemed to operate correctly. On cold nights (lows
around zero) the upstairs of my house couldn't break 60. Could be an
old house issue (insulation), I dunno, but it gives some insight into
the blowers effectiveness.
If you think it's a cracked or ruster heat exchanger (seems to be a
common malady) can you tell me how (if) that can be replaced and at
what cost. Better to just replace the whole thing?
Thanks for any input.
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| PrecisionMachinisT 2005-11-25, 2:21 am |
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"GACAttak" <gregory.crooks@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for any input.
>
Signal verifying your fuel has actually ignited is missing else the circuit
recieving it is bad.
And since you couldn't figure out at least this much on your own then
suggest you should call in a pro.
--
SVL
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| Bubba 2005-11-25, 10:21 am |
| On 24 Nov 2005 21:24:36 -0800, "GACAttak" <gregory.crooks@gmail.com>
wrote:
>My Carrier 58GP100-BA has what I think is a strange cycle. It starts
>with the burner running for 1 minute. Then the blower kicks in, and 15
>seconds later the burner shuts off. The blower will run for 2 min, 45
>seconds before it shuts off and the burner turns back on and the
>process repeats. A timetable is shown below.
>
>t=0 Burner turns on
>t=60 Blower turns on
>t=75 Burner turns off
>t=240 Blower turns off, Burner turns on
>t=300 Blower turns on
>etc.
>
>A few years back the whole thing shut down because of a blown thermal
>fuse. That was replaced and things seemed to be back to normal, though
>the system never seemed to operate correctly. On cold nights (lows
>around zero) the upstairs of my house couldn't break 60. Could be an
>old house issue (insulation), I dunno, but it gives some insight into
>the blowers effectiveness.
>
>If you think it's a cracked or ruster heat exchanger (seems to be a
>common malady) can you tell me how (if) that can be replaced and at
>what cost. Better to just replace the whole thing?
>
>Thanks for any input.
Replace the thermostat. Its almost always the thermostat.
Try that and come back if it doesnt. I can help you more.
Bubba
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| Noon-Air 2005-11-25, 10:21 am |
| its broken....time to call a pro
"GACAttak" <gregory.crooks@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132896276.437936.277860@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> My Carrier 58GP100-BA has what I think is a strange cycle. It starts
> with the burner running for 1 minute. Then the blower kicks in, and 15
> seconds later the burner shuts off. The blower will run for 2 min, 45
> seconds before it shuts off and the burner turns back on and the
> process repeats. A timetable is shown below.
>
> t=0 Burner turns on
> t=60 Blower turns on
> t=75 Burner turns off
> t=240 Blower turns off, Burner turns on
> t=300 Blower turns on
> etc.
>
> A few years back the whole thing shut down because of a blown thermal
> fuse. That was replaced and things seemed to be back to normal, though
> the system never seemed to operate correctly. On cold nights (lows
> around zero) the upstairs of my house couldn't break 60. Could be an
> old house issue (insulation), I dunno, but it gives some insight into
> the blowers effectiveness.
>
> If you think it's a cracked or ruster heat exchanger (seems to be a
> common malady) can you tell me how (if) that can be replaced and at
> what cost. Better to just replace the whole thing?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
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| GACAttak 2005-11-25, 10:21 am |
| Thanks Bubba. Keep in mind that I'm not a pro (I have an EE degree and
have done plenty of electrical work so I'm no stooge either though). I
figure I can pick up the part at a local repair shop, but I don't know
the exact specs of what I need. The furnace came with my house and
without a manual. Couldn't find one online, which didn't surprise me
due to the furnace's age (mfr. 8/86). Any idea where one could be found?
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| garwood 2005-11-25, 11:21 am |
| BP- Don't look for help in this forum. These guys are a bunch of
fucking XXXXXXX's that will try to mislead you however they can. Feel
sorry for them- you see that's all they have to do is spend their time
on alt.hvac forum playing with each others putz's and trying to jerk
other people off.
Ga
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| Bubba 2005-11-25, 11:21 am |
| On 25 Nov 2005 05:56:28 -0800, "GACAttak" <gregory.crooks@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Thanks Bubba. Keep in mind that I'm not a pro (I have an EE degree and
>have done plenty of electrical work so I'm no stooge either though). I
>figure I can pick up the part at a local repair shop, but I don't know
>the exact specs of what I need. The furnace came with my house and
>without a manual. Couldn't find one online, which didn't surprise me
>due to the furnace's age (mfr. 8/86). Any idea where one could be found?
An EE! Gee, I would have never guessed. Do yourself a favor. Find
another technician.......A GOOD one and stop messing with something
that can easily kill you.
You DONT have a clue what you're doing.
Try a DuctBooster if that thermostat doesnt work.
Bubba
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| Noon-Air 2005-11-25, 11:21 am |
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"GACAttak" <gregory.crooks@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132926988.528032.16370@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks Bubba. Keep in mind that I'm not a pro (I have an EE degree and
> have done plenty of electrical work so I'm no stooge either though).
That EE doesn't make you a *competent*, licensed, insured, professionally
trained, HVAC technician...for that matter that EE and a buck will get you a
cuppa coffee at Dennys.
> I figure I can pick up the part at a local repair shop
Not without make, model, serial number and part number.
> but I don't know the exact specs of what I need.
This is where you go to the YP and call a tech
> The furnace came with my house and
> without a manual. Couldn't find one online, which didn't surprise me
> due to the furnace's age (mfr. 8/86). Any idea where one could be found?
You local *competent*, licensed, insured, professionally trained, HVAC
technician will be able to get one for you.
Its probably best that you let your fingers do the walking.
BTW FWIW, calling a plumber to do HVAC work is like going to a proctologist
to get your dental work done....pretty much the same deal with the average
run of the mill EE. Gotta love those $ervice call$ after an EE has screwed
with a system.
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| CBHVAC 2005-11-25, 12:21 pm |
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"GACAttak" <gregory.crooks@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132926988.528032.16370@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks Bubba. Keep in mind that I'm not a pro (I have an EE degree and
> have done plenty of electrical work so I'm no stooge either though). I
> figure I can pick up the part at a local repair shop, but I don't know
> the exact specs of what I need. The furnace came with my house and
> without a manual. Couldn't find one online, which didn't surprise me
> due to the furnace's age (mfr. 8/86). Any idea where one could be found?
>
You ARE kidding right?
I mean....
You ARE kidding right?
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| .p.j.m@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2005-11-25, 12:21 pm |
| On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:21:57 -0500, "CBHVAC"
<inactive@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote:
>
>"GACAttak" <gregory.crooks@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1132926988.528032.16370@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>You ARE kidding right?
>
>I mean....
>
>You ARE kidding right?
>
No, he's an EE.
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| garwood 2005-11-25, 6:21 pm |
| Don't look for help in this forum. These guys are a bunch of fucking
XXXXXXX's that will try to mislead you however they can. Feel sorry for
them- you see that's all they have to do is spend their time on
alt.hvac forum playing with each others putz's and trying to jerk other
people off.
Ga
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| Noon-Air 2005-11-25, 7:21 pm |
| Dude, you just got your panties in a wad cause your too fuckin cheap to pay
a tech to do the job correctly and give you a warranty, and too ignorant to
know when your getting your chain jerked, and too stupid to know when
something is beyond your grasp of simple electricity, physics and
thermodynamics. You like so many others got given the correct answers yet
you chose to ignore tham and get pissy when you get told something you don't
want to hear. Now go fuck yourself.
*PLONK*
"garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Don't look for help in this forum. These guys are a bunch of fucking
> XXXXXXX's that will try to mislead you however they can. Feel sorry for
> them- you see that's all they have to do is spend their time on
> alt.hvac forum playing with each others putz's and trying to jerk other
> people off.
> Ga
>
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| On 25 Nov 2005 13:51:34 -0800, "garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote:
>Don't look for help in this forum. These guys are a bunch of fucking
>XXXXXXX's that will try to mislead you however they can. Feel sorry for
>them- you see that's all they have to do is spend their time on
>alt.hvac forum playing with each others putz's and trying to jerk other
>people off.
>Ga
Hey, you know. Im just wondering ..................
Garwood, did you pay $80 to have a tech come out and change your dirty
filter for you?
Bubba
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| Oscar_Lives 2005-11-25, 8:21 pm |
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"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Dude, you just got your panties in a wad cause your too fuckin cheap to
> pay a tech to do the job correctly and give you a warranty, and too
> ignorant to know when your getting your chain jerked, and too stupid to
> know when something is beyond your grasp of simple electricity, physics
> and thermodynamics. You like so many others got given the correct answers
> yet you chose to ignore tham and get pissy when you get told something you
> don't want to hear. Now go fuck yourself.
Steve, just cut to the chase and tell him how it really is. Don't pussyfoot
around with him.
>
> *PLONK*
>
> "garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1132955493.950861.160940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
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| garwood 2005-11-26, 6:21 pm |
| I wasn't told something I didn't want to hear. I came here for a little
help and you jerkoffs tired to get me to buy make believe parts. I
wonder how many people came here for help and you fuckers jerked them
around buying parts they didn't need - because they dared to trust you
and others on this forum. Its real funny laughing a someone else's
expense. And you think I would trust one of you motherfuckers to fiix
something in my house.
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| .p.j.m@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2005-11-26, 7:21 pm |
| On 26 Nov 2005 13:16:53 -0800, "garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote:
>I wasn't told something I didn't want to hear. I came here for a little
>help and you jerkoffs tired to get me to buy make believe parts. I
>wonder how many people came here for help and you fuckers jerked them
>around buying parts they didn't need - because they dared to trust you
>and others on this forum. Its real funny laughing a someone else's
>expense. And you think I would trust one of you motherfuckers to fiix
>something in my house.
No, we think you're too fucking cheap. So we fucked with your
head instead ;-)
--
Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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| On 26 Nov 2005 13:16:53 -0800, "garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote:
>I wasn't told something I didn't want to hear. I came here for a little
>help and you jerkoffs tired to get me to buy make believe parts. I
>wonder how many people came here for help and you fuckers jerked them
>around buying parts they didn't need - because they dared to trust you
>and others on this forum. Its real funny laughing a someone else's
>expense. And you think I would trust one of you motherfuckers to fiix
>something in my house.
First off you stupid retard............
Why anyone would listen to anyone on how to fix something without
knowing that you have professional correct advice proves how stupid
you are. Its not like you asked how to do an oil painting. You wanted
professional advice on how to repair something that could keep your
home safe and warm and also .............potentially kill you and
everyone in the home. You got exactly what you came and paid for.
Nothing for nothing. Now try like the rest of the population and go
pay for it...........hopefully from a licensed professional that gives
a warranty. Now stop your damn whinning and watch that the door doesnt
hit you too hard on the way out.
Bubba
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| CBHVAC 2005-11-26, 7:21 pm |
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"garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I wasn't told something I didn't want to hear. I came here for a little
> help and you jerkoffs tired to get me to buy make believe parts. I
> wonder how many people came here for help and you fuckers jerked them
> around buying parts they didn't need - because they dared to trust you
> and others on this forum. Its real funny laughing a someone else's
> expense. And you think I would trust one of you motherfuckers to fiix
> something in my house.
>
Well....hell...
Look Billy bob...it was real simple..
This aint a self help, Im a cheap cocksucker, and I dont wanna pay for
anything forum.
YOU fucked up.
YOU asked for free advice in the wrong area.
Simply put....
Hope you fucking freeze.
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| On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:07:28 -0500, "CBHVAC"
<inactive@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote:
>
>"garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1133039813.894281.215950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>Well....hell...
>
>Look Billy bob...it was real simple..
>This aint a self help, Im a cheap cocksucker, and I dont wanna pay for
>anything forum.
>YOU fucked up.
>YOU asked for free advice in the wrong area.
>Simply put....
>
>Hope you fucking freeze.
>
.....and your dick falls off.
Bubba
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| Noon-Air 2005-11-26, 10:21 pm |
|
"Bubba" <ReMoVe likealake@iname.com> wrote in message
news:fasho1d012piqj39qsto5gg4at292kvgue@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:07:28 -0500, "CBHVAC"
> <inactive@carolinabreezehvac.com> wrote:
>
> ....and your dick falls off.
If he's got one, he better spit it out... it doesn't belong to him.
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| Oscar_Lives 2005-11-27, 12:21 am |
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"garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133039813.894281.215950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>I wasn't told something I didn't want to hear. I came here for a little
> help and you jerkoffs tired to get me to buy make believe parts. I
> wonder how many people came here for help and you fuckers jerked them
> around buying parts they didn't need - because they dared to trust you
> and others on this forum. Its real funny laughing a someone else's
> expense. And you think I would trust one of you motherfuckers to fiix
> something in my house.
>
Hey Peckerwood, why the fuck do you think you can waltz right in here and
demand free technical advice? What the fuck did you ever do for us? I'll
bet you didn't even offer a donation for the minion Christmas Party in the
basket by the door.
Yeah, go ask for help on the Internet for your furnace. It is only a huge
bomb waiting to go off and blow your house to bits or maybe burn it up in a
huge fireball. Or maybe you don't even think about all the carbon monoxide
that can kill you and your family while you sleep.
You sound like a real winner, a cheap fuck who doesn't care about his
family.
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| PrecisionMachinisT 2005-11-27, 5:21 am |
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"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:nfCdnXgM1dnuDBreRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> Dude, you just got your panties in a wad cause your too fuckin cheap to
pay
> a tech to do the job correctly and give you a warranty, and too ignorant
to
> know when your getting your chain jerked, and too stupid to know when
> something is beyond your grasp of simple electricity, physics and
> thermodynamics. You like so many others got given the correct answers yet
> you chose to ignore tham and get pissy when you get told something you
don't
> want to hear. Now go fuck yourself.
>
And I gave it to him onna silver platter, too...
Getting to be irritating as all hell, man.
--
SVL
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<.p.j.m@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On 26 Nov 2005 13:16:53 -0800, "garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> No, we think you're too fucking cheap. So we fucked with your
> head instead ;-)
>
Do not listen to anything that this guy responds with. He is just messing
with you and has not taken his ridelen and Prozac today. Him and others in
this group believe it belongs to their profession only and are a few slices
short of a loaf!
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| Tekkie® 2005-11-28, 11:21 pm |
| GACAttak posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
> My Carrier 58GP100-BA has what I think is a strange cycle. It starts
> with the burner running for 1 minute. Then the blower kicks in, and 15
> seconds later the burner shuts off. The blower will run for 2 min, 45
> seconds before it shuts off and the burner turns back on and the
> process repeats. A timetable is shown below.
>
> t=0 Burner turns on
> t=60 Blower turns on
> t=75 Burner turns off
> t=240 Blower turns off, Burner turns on
> t=300 Blower turns on
> etc.
>
> A few years back the whole thing shut down because of a blown thermal
> fuse. That was replaced and things seemed to be back to normal, though
> the system never seemed to operate correctly. On cold nights (lows
> around zero) the upstairs of my house couldn't break 60. Could be an
> old house issue (insulation), I dunno, but it gives some insight into
> the blowers effectiveness.
>
> If you think it's a cracked or ruster heat exchanger (seems to be a
> common malady) can you tell me how (if) that can be replaced and at
> what cost. Better to just replace the whole thing?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
>
Hum mm a f'd up cycle... Monthly? Did the rabbit die? Has the gas man been
laying his pipe, aye? Sounds fundy. I'd pump some of that excess testosterone
in there and see if it straightens the cycle out.
--
My boss said I was dumb and apathetic.
I said I don't know and I don't care...
Tekkie
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| Tekkie® 2005-11-28, 11:21 pm |
| Oscar_Lives posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.=20
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> "garwood" <chefgar@gmail.com> wrote in message=20
> news:1133039813.894281.215950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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> Hey Peckerwood, why the fuck do you think you can waltz right in here and=
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> demand free technical advice? What the fuck did you ever do for us? I'l=
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> bet you didn't even offer a donation for the minion Christmas Party in th=
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> basket by the door.
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> Yeah, go ask for help on the Internet for your furnace. It is only a hug=
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> bomb waiting to go off and blow your house to bits or maybe burn it up in=
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> huge fireball. Or maybe you don't even think about all the carbon monoxi=
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Your choice there bucko, (OP) ExplosionBooster=AE or MonoxideBooster=AE
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My boss said I was dumb and apathetic.
I said I don't know and I don't care...
Tekkie
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