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If I remember...someone wanted a new 3-in-1
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| Swaging tool?
JB Industries has a 3pc swaging kit. They screw together to make it a one
piece.
I think a year or so ago (that someone lost theirs), and was looking for a
manufacture of this product?
kjpro
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| In article <50d52$42e82fd5$943f6c44$30201@STARBAND.NET>,
"kjpro" <kjpro @ starband . net> wrote:
> Swaging tool?
You mean a weasel reamer.
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| bill wrote:
> In article <50d52$42e82fd5$943f6c44$30201@STARBAND.NET>,
> "kjpro" <kjpro @ starband . net> wrote:
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> You mean a weasel reamer.
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Bill, Sorry but I've gotta add another one:
I recently replaced a 5 ton scroll on one of the systems in our
building.... thanks to a lot of help from this group.
I had a honest-to-God Master plumber do the piping, because I was not
too sure of my skills in this regard yet.
This fellow does commercial systems... name it, he's done it....
chemicals, ammonia, whatever... been a Master for 24 years.
He swaged the lines.
Drove me crazy making sure everything was right, too.... hangers...
joints... radius bends.... EVERYTHING.
Oh well, I guess you know better?
Jake
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| In article <1LYFe.189532$_o.177329@attbi_s71>,
Jake <jkelleyus@insightbb.com> wrote:
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> This fellow does commercial systems... name it, he's done it....
> chemicals, ammonia, whatever... been a Master for 24 years.
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> He swaged the lines.
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> Drove me crazy making sure everything was right, too.... hangers...
> joints... radius bends.... EVERYTHING.
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> Oh well, I guess you know better?
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> Jake
Are you saying he reamed the copper with a swaging tool?
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Paul's cat got a furball and kept saying weasel's name.
*Hack* *Hack* *hack*
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| Joseph 2005-07-28, 1:21 am |
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"kjpro" <kjpro @ starband . net> wrote in message
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> Swaging tool?
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> JB Industries has a 3pc swaging kit. They screw together to make it a one
> piece.
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> I think a year or so ago (that someone lost theirs), and was looking for a
> manufacture of this product?
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> kjpro
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It wasn't me, but I'm curious about this 3-in-1 thing. I carry a
swaging kit and two swaging tools which are stepped.
Joseph
Good to see ya back KJ.
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> Are you saying he reamed the copper with a swaging tool?
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No, Bill.. he did not. He DID use a reamer.
Somewhere I'd forgotten that was your point, so I'd guess your
observations re: Turtle's methods are accurate.
I'll ask my friend tomorrow if using a swaging tool is ever acceptable,
and report what I found out here.
My friend Brad is one of those people who make me respect fellow
tradesmen a lot... he is a great pipefitter and knows all about that
coupling/pressure/brazing/part number crap that I surely wouldn't have
the time or inclination to learn. I'll call him up and say "Hey, I've
got this big gate valve with a motorized actuator and a XXX position
transducer and the guy can reel off the part number from memory. He can
look at pipes in a ceiling 40 feet over your head and tell you what size
they are... just like I can with conduit. He can figure pump curves in
his sleep.
I respect tradesmen like that, and like you guys, a lot. Even though I
do get a little mouthy sometimes (-;.
Jake
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| "Joseph" <jrpitzner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "kjpro" <kjpro @ starband . net> wrote in message
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> It wasn't me, but I'm curious about this 3-in-1 thing. I carry a
> swaging kit and two swaging tools which are stepped.
It's at this link www.jbind.com
then click 'catalog'
then under 'Copper Tubing Tools', click 'swage tools'
Then it will be the top item being displayed.
> Good to see ya back KJ.
I'm not actually back, I just pop in to see what's up from time to time. And
I see nothing has changed. :-(
Thanks though... glad to see someone missed me! :-)
kjpro
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| Joseph 2005-07-29, 2:21 am |
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> It's at this link www.jbind.com
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> then click 'catalog'
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> then under 'Copper Tubing Tools', click 'swage tools'
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> Then it will be the top item being displayed.
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> I'm not actually back, I just pop in to see what's up from time to time.
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> I see nothing has changed. :-(
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> Thanks though... glad to see someone missed me! :-)
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> kjpro
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| Jake wrote:
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> No, Bill.. he did not. He DID use a reamer.
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> Somewhere I'd forgotten that was your point, so I'd guess your
> observations re: Turtle's methods are accurate.
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> I'll ask my friend tomorrow if using a swaging tool is ever acceptable,
> and report what I found out here.
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So I asked Brad, and he told me that less than 50 percent of the pro's
he's ever worked with ream vs. swage. He said that it's a personal
preference, is his eyes, and he really only *usually* reams smaller
diameters.
He got into a bunch of the mechanical properties of various tubing,
which I frankly didn't understand, but the basic point was that doing a
tube cut correctly and then swaging ONLY vs. reaming should yield a
stronger mechanical joint... ostensibly because the pipe is being bent
instead of cut.
I really have no idea one way or the other, but I do trust Brad's
opinion on this.
When I explained why I was asking (the situation here) he said "Whoever
is INSISTING that reaming be done 100 percent of the time, in every
case, must be a teacher and not in-the-field much". Is that the deal here?
Jake
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| In article <WszGe.220287$xm3.130955@attbi_s21>,
Jake <jkelleyus@insightbb.com> wrote:
> Jake wrote:
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> So I asked Brad, and he told me that less than 50 percent of the pro's
> he's ever worked with ream vs. swage. He said that it's a personal
> preference, is his eyes, and he really only *usually* reams smaller
> diameters.
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> He got into a bunch of the mechanical properties of various tubing,
> which I frankly didn't understand, but the basic point was that doing a
> tube cut correctly and then swaging ONLY vs. reaming should yield a
> stronger mechanical joint... ostensibly because the pipe is being bent
> instead of cut.
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> I really have no idea one way or the other, but I do trust Brad's
> opinion on this.
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> When I explained why I was asking (the situation here) he said "Whoever
> is INSISTING that reaming be done 100 percent of the time, in every
> case, must be a teacher and not in-the-field much". Is that the deal here?
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> Jake
Jake your buddy is laughable. You're telling me he going to swage (not a
resizing tool) a piece of copper that he's too lazy to ream?
You don't swage copper to remove the ring. You get leaking flares and
you deform the outer tubing.
Have your buddy ream and swage a couple pieces of copper and then put
them in a fitting. That proves he's full of shit.
Do you even know what a swage is for?
Tell your buddy to clean his damn copper.
--
Paul's cat got a furball and kept saying weasel's name.
*Hack* *Hack* *hack*
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