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York vs. Luxaire vs. Keeprite vs. ??? Furnace
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| Harry Muscle 2006-01-12, 2:21 pm |
| I'm in the process of getting a new furnace installed and so far the
three brands that have been recommended to me have been York, Luxaire,
and Keeprite. I've been told that York and Luxaire are virtually the
same thing since Luxaire is made by York, but Luxaire is supposed to
cost less. If anyone could provide me with some feedback about these
brands that would be great ... are they good, bad, expensive to repair,
etc. Or if there's other brands that you'd recommend let me know too.
Btw, I'm located in Ontario, Canada in case that's relevant. Also I'm
most likely going to go with a standard 80% furnance since the repair
costs for higher efficiency furnances don't seem to make them worth it.
Thanks,
Harry
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-01-12, 2:21 pm |
| On 12 Jan 2006 09:21:55 -0800, "Harry Muscle" <fake.e-mail@stonyx.com>
wrote:
>I'm in the process of getting a new furnace installed and so far the
Kee fucking H christ
Talke your stupid home-moaner bullshit to ALT.HOME.REPAIR !!!!
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| Noon-Air 2006-01-12, 2:21 pm |
| Maybe if you spent a little more up front for a top quality installation and
top quality equipment, then maintained it, your "repair" costs wouldn't be
so high, and your utility bills would be a lot lower.
OTOH, if you just want "cheap", then you won't get what you don't pay for.
"Harry Muscle" <fake.e-mail@stonyx.com> wrote in message
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> I'm in the process of getting a new furnace installed and so far the
> three brands that have been recommended to me have been York, Luxaire,
> and Keeprite. I've been told that York and Luxaire are virtually the
> same thing since Luxaire is made by York, but Luxaire is supposed to
> cost less. If anyone could provide me with some feedback about these
> brands that would be great ... are they good, bad, expensive to repair,
> etc. Or if there's other brands that you'd recommend let me know too.
>
> Btw, I'm located in Ontario, Canada in case that's relevant. Also I'm
> most likely going to go with a standard 80% furnance since the repair
> costs for higher efficiency furnances don't seem to make them worth it.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>
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| Harry Muscle 2006-01-12, 3:21 pm |
| That's why I'm asking these questions ... what do you guys consider top
quality equipement? How would you rate the three brands that I've
mentioned?
Thanks,
Harry
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| Noon-Air 2006-01-12, 4:21 pm |
| Check Consumer Reports
"Harry Muscle" <fake.e-mail@stonyx.com> wrote in message
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> That's why I'm asking these questions ... what do you guys consider top
> quality equipement? How would you rate the three brands that I've
> mentioned?
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
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| On 12 Jan 2006 09:21:55 -0800, "Harry Muscle" <fake.e-mail@stonyx.com>
wrote:
>I'm in the process of getting a new furnace installed and so far the
>three brands that have been recommended to me have been York, Luxaire,
>and Keeprite. I've been told that York and Luxaire are virtually the
>same thing since Luxaire is made by York, but Luxaire is supposed to
>cost less. If anyone could provide me with some feedback about these
>brands that would be great ... are they good, bad, expensive to repair,
>etc. Or if there's other brands that you'd recommend let me know too.
>
>Btw, I'm located in Ontario, Canada in case that's relevant. Also I'm
>most likely going to go with a standard 80% furnance since the repair
>costs for higher efficiency furnances don't seem to make them worth it.
>
>Thanks,
>Harry
You live in Ontario Canada and are going to go with an 80% furnace??!!
"Helloooooooo........Anyone home in there"
Ever heard of a 10 yr Parts and Labor Warranty?
"Kee Fucking Christ" is right.
Bubba
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| Buck Naked 2006-01-13, 7:21 am |
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"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Check Consumer Reports
>
hey that reminds me, does anyone have the latest Consumer Reports rankings
of HVAC reliability laying around?
could you be so kind as to post them here?
thanks!
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| Noon-Air 2006-01-13, 9:21 am |
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"Buck Naked" <what's@up doc> wrote in message
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> "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ncadnd2OVP7_M1veRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
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> hey that reminds me, does anyone have the latest Consumer Reports rankings
> of HVAC reliability laying around?
>
> could you be so kind as to post them here?
>
> thanks!
Try your local library, or <gasp> pay for a subscription.
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| Shiva the Destroyer 2006-01-13, 9:21 am |
| I can't make a recommendation on a furnance, unfortunately, but just a
"hang in there" from an old vet about the mental midgets giving you
shit. That's just the price we pay for defending every XXXXXXX's right
to free speech.
It also explains why most contractors don't bother to follow up on
phone calls; they're too busy being shitheads on alt.hvac. If I ever
find out any of you jackasses work in any of my maint groups, you'll be
cleaning tool cribs until you retire.
-Shiva
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-01-13, 10:21 am |
| On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:03:00 -0500, "Buck Naked" <what's@up doc>
wrote:
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>"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:ncadnd2OVP7_M1veRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
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>hey that reminds me, does anyone have the latest Consumer Reports rankings
>of HVAC reliability laying around?
>
>could you be so kind as to post them here?
You pathetic lame-assed lazy home-moaner
Fucking no, now go away.
>
>thanks!
>
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-01-13, 10:21 am |
| On 13 Jan 2006 05:00:51 -0800, "Shiva the Destroyer"
<Shiva.TheDestroyer@gmail.com> wrote:
>I can't make a recommendation on a furnance, unfortunately, but just a
>"hang in there" from an old vet about the mental midgets giving you
>shit. That's just the price we pay for defending every XXXXXXX's right
>to free speech.
>
>It also explains why most contractors don't bother to follow up on
>phone calls; they're too busy being shitheads on alt.hvac. If I ever
>find out any of you jackasses work in any of my maint groups, you'll be
>cleaning tool cribs until you retire.
You'll be polishing my knob until I GET tired.
>
>-Shiva
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'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
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| Harry Muscle 2006-01-13, 10:21 am |
| I checked out the library, they didn't have much in Consumer Reports
about furnaces. The only thing they had since 2003 is actually a quick
article that's available online for free. Here's the link:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...05/overview.htm
Not much information/explanation, but I guess it's better than nothing.
Harry
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| Bubba 2006-01-13, 12:21 pm |
| On 13 Jan 2006 05:00:51 -0800, "Shiva the Destroyer"
<Shiva.TheDestroyer@gmail.com> wrote:
>I can't make a recommendation on a furnance, unfortunately, but just a
>"hang in there" from an old vet about the mental midgets giving you
>shit. That's just the price we pay for defending every XXXXXXX's right
>to free speech.
>
>It also explains why most contractors don't bother to follow up on
>phone calls; they're too busy being shitheads on alt.hvac. If I ever
>find out any of you jackasses work in any of my maint groups, you'll be
>cleaning tool cribs until you retire.
>
>-Shiva
You sound a little bitter about going to war, Shiva.
Whats wrong? Found out that at 18 you were just young, dumb and full
of piss and vinegar? Thats why they yank stupid idots like you off to
war.
Sounds like you have a great cush job babysitting tools? What the
hell, with any luck you may one day be head tool crib XXXXX?
Bubba
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| Nexus7 2006-01-13, 2:21 pm |
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Harry Muscle wrote:
> I'm in the process of getting a new furnace installed and so far the
> three brands that have been recommended to me have been York, Luxaire,
> and Keeprite. I've been told that York and Luxaire are virtually the
You need more quotes then, since you don't know what the going price
for the usually more expensive brands such as Trane and Lennox will be
in your area. For all the quotes you get, compare what they're going to
do as part of the installation, and the warranty on parts and labor
they offer you. Each brand also has a range of models, with
single-stage or 2 stage heating, and variable or fixed speed blowers as
differentiating features. Compare the size and capacity that you're
offered to what you have now, and your comfort level with that. Some
installers will also offer financing, although I've yet to find one
that ends up better than what you can get with an introductory rate on
a credit card.
Once you have these quotes in front of you and you evaluate the
details, you will be in a better position to answer your questions that
anyone here.
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| Jim W. 2006-01-16, 7:21 pm |
| That's a great link Harry. Thanks
"Harry Muscle" <fake.e-mail@stonyx.com> wrote in message
news:1137160687.599160.291360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I checked out the library, they didn't have much in Consumer Reports
about furnaces. The only thing they had since 2003 is actually a quick
article that's available online for free. Here's the link:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...05/overview.htm
Not much information/explanation, but I guess it's better than nothing.
Harry
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| Cooltemp Industries 2006-01-16, 8:21 pm |
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Jim W. wrote:
> That's a great link Harry. Thanks
> http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...05/overview.htm
>
> Not much information/explanation, but I guess it's better than nothing.
It shows Bryant with less repairs than Carrier....same furnace.
Same thing for Heil and Tempstar.
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| Jim W. 2006-01-16, 9:21 pm |
| That's just the normal error rate they get in getting consumer feedback.
You see the same thing in differently badged cars & electronics. It's
still useful info.
"Cooltemp Industries" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
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Jim W. wrote:
> That's a great link Harry. Thanks
> http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...05/overview.htm
>
> Not much information/explanation, but I guess it's better than nothing.
It shows Bryant with less repairs than Carrier....same furnace.
Same thing for Heil and Tempstar.
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| Cooltemp Industries 2006-01-16, 9:21 pm |
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Jim W. wrote:
> That's just the normal error rate they get in getting consumer feedback.
> You see the same thing in differently badged cars & electronics. It's
> still useful info.
Useful if you're knowledgable enough about the various products in order
to combine the info relating to the same products.
It makes me wonder how much research went into the investigative
procedure when they treat 2 furnaces which are the same, as different
products.
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| Good point. The only difference between Rheem and Ruud is the first letter
of the model number.
"Cooltemp Industries" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
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> Jim W. wrote:
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> Useful if you're knowledgable enough about the various products in order
> to combine the info relating to the same products.
> It makes me wonder how much research went into the investigative
> procedure when they treat 2 furnaces which are the same, as different
> products.
>
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| Jim W. 2006-01-16, 11:21 pm |
| Bryant's Tech Sheets actually lists performance with various Carrier coils
"Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Good point. The only difference between Rheem and Ruud is the first letter
of the model number.
"Cooltemp Industries" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
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> Jim W. wrote:
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> Useful if you're knowledgable enough about the various products in order
> to combine the info relating to the same products.
> It makes me wonder how much research went into the investigative
> procedure when they treat 2 furnaces which are the same, as different
> products.
>
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| Bob Pietrangelo 2006-01-17, 3:21 am |
| It might be due to types of contractors that install the different brands.
The Bryant guy probably couldn't sell Carrier. I hope that made a little
sense. Installation practice will contibute to the repair frequency at
least as much as Brand name. With the exception of the really bottom
dwellers there, most equipment PROPERLY installed will last longer and not
break down as often; than a Top System thrown in by a hack.
--
Bob Pietrangelo
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bob@comfort-solution.biz
www.comfort-solution.biz
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"Cooltemp Industries" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
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> Jim W. wrote:
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> Useful if you're knowledgable enough about the various products in order
> to combine the info relating to the same products.
> It makes me wonder how much research went into the investigative procedure
> when they treat 2 furnaces which are the same, as different products.
>
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| Ruud's tech sheets list their model number (the first letter is a 'U') with
all the coils having an 'R' as the first letter (for Rheem).
" Jim W." <wwwss@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bryant's Tech Sheets actually lists performance with various Carrier coils
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> "Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5YOdneD76fT1z1HeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
> Good point. The only difference between Rheem and Ruud is the first letter
> of the model number.
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> "Cooltemp Industries" <gbroderick@sunlife.com> wrote in message
> news:43CC460A.6050005@sunlife.com...
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