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| Larry R 2006-01-12, 5:21 pm |
| Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow (75k), probably around 12 years old.
I runs fine, except that after a normal cycle ( burners on, fan on,
burners off, fan runs til limit hits), about 2 minutes later, the fan
only will come on and run for a couple of minutes.
During this time, there is no burner activity. It is very consistient
in this operation.
The furnace has been reqularly cleaned & inspected ( last Feb ).
My guess is the fan limit switch, but I thought I'd throw it out here.
And I *know* the typical answer about having a tech come out--I
understand that. Due to availablity of parts, it is most likely how the
problem will get resolved, but an opinion or two here would be nice.
Thanks !
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| B-Hate-Me 2006-01-12, 5:21 pm |
| Larry R wrote:
> Ok. I have a Janitrol
You need a new furnace.
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| The fan and limit senses the temperature inside the furnace. If it's been
doing that since it was new, then don't worry about it. If it just started,
then call a good HVAC contractor. Don't put too much money into that heater.
If a technician comes out, ask him how much a 90+ furnace would cost to
install, and how much gas he thinks you can save with one.
"Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com> wrote in message
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> Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow (75k), probably around 12 years old.
> I runs fine, except that after a normal cycle ( burners on, fan on,
> burners off, fan runs til limit hits), about 2 minutes later, the fan
> only will come on and run for a couple of minutes.
>
> During this time, there is no burner activity. It is very consistient
> in this operation.
>
> The furnace has been reqularly cleaned & inspected ( last Feb ).
>
> My guess is the fan limit switch, but I thought I'd throw it out here.
> And I *know* the typical answer about having a tech come out--I
> understand that. Due to availablity of parts, it is most likely how the
> problem will get resolved, but an opinion or two here would be nice.
>
> Thanks !
>
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-01-12, 7:21 pm |
| On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:40 -0800, "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com>
wrote:
>Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow (75k), probably around 12 years old.
Post in alt.home.repair, not here.
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| On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:40 -0800, "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com>
wrote:
>Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow (75k), probably around 12 years old.
>I runs fine, except that after a normal cycle ( burners on, fan on,
>burners off, fan runs til limit hits), about 2 minutes later, the fan
>only will come on and run for a couple of minutes.
>
>During this time, there is no burner activity. It is very consistient
>in this operation.
>
>The furnace has been reqularly cleaned & inspected ( last Feb ).
>
>My guess is the fan limit switch, but I thought I'd throw it out here.
>And I *know* the typical answer about having a tech come out--I
>understand that. Due to availablity of parts, it is most likely how the
>problem will get resolved, but an opinion or two here would be nice.
>
>Thanks !
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.
Bubba
(Got get a new digital programmable thermostat. Its almost always the
thermostat)
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| PrecisionMechanical 2006-01-13, 12:21 am |
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"Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com> wrote in message
news:1137097240.927752.261120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow (75k), probably around 12 years old.
> I runs fine, except that after a normal cycle ( burners on, fan on,
> burners off, fan runs til limit hits), about 2 minutes later, the fan
> only will come on and run for a couple of minutes.
>
> During this time, there is no burner activity. It is very consistient
> in this operation.
>
> The furnace has been reqularly cleaned & inspected ( last Feb ).
>
> My guess is the fan limit switch, but I thought I'd throw it out here.
> And I *know* the typical answer about having a tech come out--I
> understand that. Due to availablity of parts, it is most likely how the
> problem will get resolved, but an opinion or two here would be nice.
>
Suggest Google Groups--once you get the "secret < alt.havoc> handshake" down
pat...then maybe wait awhile--repost again inna month or two...
>
> Thanks !
>
Why, your entirely welcome !!!
--
SVL
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-01-13, 12:21 am |
| On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:40 -0800, "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com>
wrote:
>Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow (75k), probably around 12 years old.
>I runs fine, except that after a normal cycle ( burners on, fan on,
>burners off, fan runs til limit hits), about 2 minutes later, the fan
>only will come on and run for a couple of minutes.
>
>During this time, there is no burner activity. It is very consistient
>in this operation.
>
>The furnace has been reqularly cleaned & inspected ( last Feb ).
>
>My guess is the fan limit switch, but I thought I'd throw it out here.
>And I *know* the typical answer about having a tech come out--I
>understand that. Due to availablity of parts, it is most likely how the
>problem will get resolved, but an opinion or two here would be nice.
It's not 'the availabilty of parts', XXXXXXX, because you can
buy any fucking part you want online and have it delivered to your
door if you want.
It's the availability of KNOWLEDGE that's fucking you over,
because YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.
Moron.
>
>Thanks !
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| PrecisionMechanical 2006-01-13, 1:21 am |
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"Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com> wrote in message
> news:1137097240.927752.261120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
( 1)--STOP top posting.
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> The fan and limit senses the temperature inside the furnace. If it's been
> doing that since it was new, then don't worry about it.
Please explain....
> If it just started,
> then call a good HVAC contractor. Don't put too much money into that
heater.
How he is going to go about telling a "good HVAC contractor" from one that's
not.............
> If a technician comes out, ask him how much a 90+ furnace would cost to
Nope...
IF he has a technician ( good or otherwise )....then he should be prepared
to FUCKING PAY THE MAN !!!
Good sign here is if he says he's not gonna invoice--that point your a one
cheap fuggin cocksucker if ya dont at least slip him a friggin ten-spot.
>
> install, and how much gas he thinks you can save with one.
>
Nope, he NEEDS to get you some absolutes....
Curious, anyone mentioned "good HVAC tech" lately ???
===
Bob, sorry but..
PLONK !!!
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SVL
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| gofish@gonefishin.net 2006-01-13, 2:21 am |
| "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com> wrote:
>Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow
>the fan
>only will come on and run for a couple of minutes.
>
>
think about it. downflow. air from blower wheel hits fan limit
switch before it hits burners, which are still hot/warm. heat rises.
fan switch rolls over, turns fan on. burners finally cool off.
you may have bigger issues, such as airflow restrictions. whats your
total ESP? http://tinyurl.com/cvfg9
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| PrecisionMechanical 2006-01-13, 4:21 am |
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"Bubba >" <<ReMoVe likealake@iname.com> wrote in message
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>
> Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.
> Bubba
> (Got get a new digital programmable thermostat. Its almost always the
> thermostat)
>
Ya big deal.....
I just bought a dozen of em--now just to get all the dampers to fucking open
/ close ...stages to activate /de-activate when I REALLY want em to....
<G>
--
SVL
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gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
> "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> think about it. downflow. air from blower wheel hits fan limit
> switch before it hits burners, which are still hot/warm. heat rises.
> fan switch rolls over, turns fan on. burners finally cool off.
>
> you may have bigger issues, such as airflow restrictions. whats your
> total ESP? http://tinyurl.com/cvfg9
I'm failing to see how restricted airflow will cause nuisance blower
cycling with a standard fan/limit switch.
The typical causes are fan-off setting too high, fan-on setting too low,
faulty fan/limit switch, or poor factory engineering of the furnace.
In the latter case it is typical to find a relay working in conjunction
with the fan/limit to bring the blower in immediately upon a call for
heat, which allows for a high fan-on setting on the fan/limit switch
(Lennox's solution on thier single-inshot burner systems). An internal
heater within the switch will perform the same function as the relay,
which is to allow a higher fan-on setting than normal. When the burner
cycles off there is no longer power to the relay coil, or to the heater,
and thus the hx must now heat the fan/limit to its set poing in order to
bring in the blower motor, which isn't likely unless the fan off setting
is too high. Restricted airflow will only cause the blower to run
longer before the fan/limit cools enough to drop it out. I would think
that this would actually allow the hx to cool down more evenly than
normal. Excessive airflow is more likely to cause nuisance cycling.
hvacrmedic
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RP wrote:
>
>
> gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm failing to see how restricted airflow will cause nuisance blower
> cycling with a standard fan/limit switch.
> The typical causes are fan-off setting too high, fan-on setting too low,
> faulty fan/limit switch, or poor factory engineering of the furnace.
> In the latter case it is typical to find a relay working in conjunction
> with the fan/limit to bring the blower in immediately upon a call for
> heat, which allows for a high fan-on setting on the fan/limit switch
> (Lennox's solution on thier single-inshot burner systems). An internal
> heater within the switch will perform the same function as the relay,
> which is to allow a higher fan-on setting than normal. When the burner
> cycles off there is no longer power to the relay coil, or to the heater,
> and thus the hx must now heat the fan/limit to its set poing in order to
> bring in the blower motor, which isn't likely unless the fan off setting
> is too high. Restricted airflow will only cause the blower to run
> longer before the fan/limit cools enough to drop it out. I would think
> that this would actually allow the hx to cool down more evenly than
> normal. Excessive airflow is more likely to cause nuisance cycling.
>
> hvacrmedic
Here's a trick that I use to simplify adjustment of the ordinary
fan/limit switch. Now if you don't adjust them, but just put them in and
leave them on their factory settings, then this won't apply to you. I
don't however like nuisance call-backs. Here's this trick; use your
*watch* to set the switch.
Initally, set the fan-on setpoint to somewhere around 140-150ºF, set the
fan-off setpoint to somewhere around 90-100ºF. Set the stat to call for
heat and wait for the blower to start. Watch the dial on the switch:
Either it will continue to creep up, or it will drop back. If it
continues to creep up then leave the on setting where it is, and check
for restricted airflow, etc, and maybe check the actual air discharge
temp. If everything is ok, then the dial should drop back somewhat. Let
the dial's position stabilize, and then move the on setpoint to that
temp. This will simultaneously minimize the on-delay and help prevent
moisture from condensing out of the exhaust gasses. Setting the on
setpoint higher won't typically accomplish anything, since the temp will
immediately drop back when the blower starts. Setting the on setpoint
lower than this, OTOH, could cause temporary condensation of moisture
from the flue product, i.e. during start-up, which could cause premature
failure of ribbon burners and/or hx.
Now turn off the furnace at the stat and time the cool-down period with
your watch. If the cool-down period falls within 1 to 2 minutes, then
leave the off setpoint where it is, you're done. If cooldown takes less
than a minute, then lower the off setpoint, if it takes longer than 2
minutes then raise the off setpoint. Cycle the furnace and adjust the
off setpoint as many times as necessary to get a cool-down period
between 1and 2 minutes. This method eliminates the need to check air
discharge temperature, and thus saves a lot of trips back and forth
between the vent and the unit. After the fact you can check the air
temps to help determine whether airflow is adequate. Keep in mind that
you can have too much airflow, per my above post, causing nuisance
cycling. OTOH, most of you wouldn't perform a complete system inspection
just because the fan limit went out. I wouldn't, but its always a good
idea to watch the dial after cooldown to see if it creeps back up to the
fan-on setpoint. If it does then you may raise the on setpoint
sufficiently to prevent nuisance cycling. As always use your best
judgment 
If anyone benefits from the realization that fan/limit switches aren't
really a mystery, then a simple thanx should be enough. OTOH there's
always Pay Pal, that is, if you feel guilty lurking around trying to get
a free education
hvacrmedic
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RP wrote:
>
>
> gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm failing to see how restricted airflow will cause nuisance blower
> cycling with a standard fan/limit switch.
> The typical causes are fan-off setting too high, fan-on setting too low,
> faulty fan/limit switch, or poor factory engineering of the furnace.
> In the latter case it is typical to find a relay working in conjunction
> with the fan/limit to bring the blower in immediately upon a call for
> heat, which allows for a high fan-on setting on the fan/limit switch
> (Lennox's solution on thier single-inshot burner systems). An internal
> heater within the switch will perform the same function as the relay,
> which is to allow a higher fan-on setting than normal. When the burner
> cycles off there is no longer power to the relay coil, or to the heater,
> and thus the hx must now heat the fan/limit to its set poing in order to
> bring in the blower motor, which isn't likely unless the fan off setting
> is too high. Restricted airflow will only cause the blower to run
> longer before the fan/limit cools enough to drop it out. I would think
> that this would actually allow the hx to cool down more evenly than
> normal. Excessive airflow is more likely to cause nuisance cycling.
>
> hvacrmedic
Correction on the Lennox system. The blower will not start unless there
is a call for heat with fan relay engaged. The fan-on setpoint is is
not set higher as stated above, and should even be set lower than
normal. Haven't seen many of these, had to think back on it, pardon the
error
In hindsight, I believe that I've also seen these with internal heaters
along with the relay. I suppose this would allow setting the on-setpoint
just about anywhere over the working range.
hvacrmedic
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| ftwhd 2006-01-14, 12:21 pm |
| On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:40:23 -0800, "PrecisionMechanical"
<precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com> wrote in message
>news:1137097240.927752.261120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>Suggest Google Groups--once you get the "secret < alt.havoc> handshake" down
>pat...then maybe wait awhile--repost again inna month or two...
>
The secret handshake. Stick your finger in Pj's XXX and wiggle it
around.
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| gofish@gonefishin.net 2006-01-14, 1:21 pm |
| RP <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>RP wrote:
>
>
>Here's a trick that I use to simplify adjustment of the ordinary
>fan/limit switch. Now if you don't adjust them, but just put them in and
>leave them on their factory settings, then this won't apply to you. I
>don't however like nuisance call-backs. Here's this trick; use your
>*watch* to set the switch.
>
>Initally, set the fan-on setpoint to somewhere around 140-150ºF, set the
>fan-off setpoint to somewhere around 90-100ºF. Set the stat to call for
>heat and wait for the blower to start. Watch the dial on the switch:
>Either it will continue to creep up, or it will drop back. If it
>continues to creep up then leave the on setting where it is, and check
>for restricted airflow, etc, and maybe check the actual air discharge
>temp. If everything is ok, then the dial should drop back somewhat. Let
>the dial's position stabilize, and then move the on setpoint to that
>temp. This will simultaneously minimize the on-delay and help prevent
>moisture from condensing out of the exhaust gasses. Setting the on
>setpoint higher won't typically accomplish anything, since the temp will
>immediately drop back when the blower starts. Setting the on setpoint
>lower than this, OTOH, could cause temporary condensation of moisture
>from the flue product, i.e. during start-up, which could cause premature
>failure of ribbon burners and/or hx.
>
>Now turn off the furnace at the stat and time the cool-down period with
>your watch. If the cool-down period falls within 1 to 2 minutes, then
>leave the off setpoint where it is, you're done. If cooldown takes less
>than a minute, then lower the off setpoint, if it takes longer than 2
>minutes then raise the off setpoint. Cycle the furnace and adjust the
>off setpoint as many times as necessary to get a cool-down period
>between 1and 2 minutes. This method eliminates the need to check air
>discharge temperature, and thus saves a lot of trips back and forth
>between the vent and the unit. After the fact you can check the air
>temps to help determine whether airflow is adequate. Keep in mind that
>you can have too much airflow, per my above post, causing nuisance
>cycling. OTOH, most of you wouldn't perform a complete system inspection
>just because the fan limit went out. I wouldn't, but its always a good
>idea to watch the dial after cooldown to see if it creeps back up to the
>fan-on setpoint. If it does then you may raise the on setpoint
>sufficiently to prevent nuisance cycling. As always use your best
>judgment
>
>If anyone benefits from the realization that fan/limit switches aren't
>really a mystery, then a simple thanx should be enough. OTOH there's
>always Pay Pal, that is, if you feel guilty lurking around trying to get
>a free education
>
>hvacrmedic
I think the real mystery is deciphering your long winded posts,
however I do respect your opinions.
short precise statements go a lot further in teaching rather than long
winded oratories........ <g>
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gofish@gonefishin.net wrote:
> RP <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think the real mystery is deciphering your long winded posts,
> however I do respect your opinions.
>
> short precise statements go a lot further in teaching rather than long
> winded oratories........ <g>
I'll see what I can do to simplify them.
How's this? Restricted airflow won't cause nuisance blower cycling, but
excessive airflow can.
Now you can ask why that is, after getting your panties in a wad because
you misinterpreted the reply as me being short with you. Then I can go
into the lengthy diatribe that I omitted first time round, which will be
further misinterpreted as talking down to you, getting panties further
in a wad, finally breaking down into somebody saying "PLONK!". Or I
could keep it simple by saying " because it does, that's why".
I think some people just have to XXXXX or they'll blow up. ;)
Richard Perry
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| I read somewhere that reading a computer monitor is 4 times harder than
reading a piece of paper.
<gofish@gonefishin.net> wrote in message
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> RP <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I think the real mystery is deciphering your long winded posts,
> however I do respect your opinions.
>
> short precise statements go a lot further in teaching rather than long
> winded oratories........ <g>
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Bob wrote:
> I read somewhere that reading a computer monitor is 4 times harder than
> reading a piece of paper.
Increase the font size and adjust text and background colors to ease the
strain. My monitor is easier to read than paper by far.
hvacrmedic
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> <gofish@gonefishin.net> wrote in message
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| I use a blue background with MS Word, but I don't know how to change the
background in Outlook Express.
"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bob wrote:
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> Increase the font size and adjust text and background colors to ease the
> strain. My monitor is easier to read than paper by far.
>
> hvacrmedic
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| Noon-Air 2006-01-14, 4:21 pm |
| its easy.... click, click, click
"Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I use a blue background with MS Word, but I don't know how to change the
> background in Outlook Express.
>
> "RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ZfmdnewvCrgoslTenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@centurytel.net...
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| On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:10:52 -0500, ftwhd <ftwhd@home.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:40:23 -0800, "PrecisionMechanical"
><precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The secret handshake. Stick your finger in Pj's XXX and wiggle it
>around.
Poor Mikey.
As of this post, I see 7 posts to this thread and not one of them
(besides me) even acknowledges that you are alive.
How does it feel to be dead, Mikey?
If it makes you feel any better, I may be the only person that hasnt
kill filed you. Dont feel too special though. I actually havent kill
filed anyone. You have to be super special to get that honor.
Assume the position Mikey. (Under the desk)
Bubba
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Bob wrote:
> I use a blue background with MS Word, but I don't know how to change the
> background in Outlook Express.
Use a different reader. Outlook sucks. Try Netscape 7.2. It's free. I
use a light mauve backgound with dark blue quoted text and dark red
current text. Arial font, size 22.
hvacrmedic
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> "RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| I used Netscape years ago, and then they went to that Godzilla or Mozilla or
something like that. It screwed everything up.
"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bob wrote:
>
> Use a different reader. Outlook sucks. Try Netscape 7.2. It's free. I
> use a light mauve backgound with dark blue quoted text and dark red
> current text. Arial font, size 22.
>
> hvacrmedic
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Bob wrote:
> I used Netscape years ago, and then they went to that Godzilla or Mozilla or
> something like that. It screwed everything up.
I've been using it since 4.0. I only had problems with one version
after that, not sure which. Long time back. You might give it another
shot, it can always be uninstalled. It has several more options than
Outlook, and it trees the threads in several ways, all from the same
submenu.
The posts or threads can be marked read individually without opening
them and without going into a menu at all. I've tried several other
readers and none compare.
hvacrmedic
>
> "RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| PrecisionMechanical 2006-01-15, 2:21 am |
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"Bubba >" <<ReMoVe likealake@iname.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:10:52 -0500, ftwhd <ftwhd@home.com> wrote:
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> Poor Mikey.
> As of this post, I see 7 posts to this thread and not one of them
> (besides me) even acknowledges that you are alive.
> How does it feel to be dead, Mikey?
> If it makes you feel any better, I may be the only person that hasnt
> kill filed you. Dont feel too special though. I actually havent kill
> filed anyone. You have to be super special to get that honor.
> Assume the position Mikey. (Under the desk)
> Bubba
I only use them very rarely myself.
Just that it's *me* chooses which posts I respond to is all...matters not
one iota whether someone is givin me a fucking line of shit.
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SVL
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| Thanks, right now I've got a lot of other things going on, but maybe later.
"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I've been using it since 4.0. I only had problems with one version
> after that, not sure which. Long time back. You might give it another
> shot, it can always be uninstalled. It has several more options than
> Outlook, and it trees the threads in several ways, all from the same
> submenu.
> The posts or threads can be marked read individually without opening
> them and without going into a menu at all. I've tried several other
> readers and none compare.
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| Raines 2006-01-15, 2:21 pm |
| <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:40 -0800, "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com>
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> Post in alt.home.repair, not here.
He can post it here if he likes.
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> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
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> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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| ~^Johnny^~ 2006-01-29, 5:21 pm |
| On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:40 -0800, "Larry R" <lrichardson@iname.com>
wrote:
>Ok. I have a Janitrol gas downflow (75k), probably around 12 years old.
>I runs fine, except that after a normal cycle ( burners on, fan on,
>burners off, fan runs til limit hits), about 2 minutes later, the fan
>only will come on and run for a couple of minutes.
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>During this time, there is no burner activity. It is very consistient
>in this operation.
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>The furnace has been reqularly cleaned & inspected ( last Feb ).
Several things come to mind.
Have you closed off any registers since before this started happening?
Are any registers blocked/have you moved any furniture?
Also, did the furnace cleaning inclide a thorough duct cleaning?
Also, fan cycling switch may be dodgy (too little
differential/hysteresis).
--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info
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