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Want new heating system......
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| Sue Ann 2006-01-14, 2:21 pm |
| ......and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies). Have heat
pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved enough to be a viable
choice for a small, well-insulated New Jersey house?
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-01-14, 3:22 pm |
| On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:42:33 -0500, SueAnnK@webtv.net (Sue Ann) wrote:
>.....and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies). Have heat
>pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved enough to be a viable
>choice for a small, well-insulated New Jersey house?
No.
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| They're much more efficient than they used to be, but you're still going to
need some type of backup heat, because you're not in a climate where the
heating and cooling loads were exactly the same.
"Sue Ann" <SueAnnK@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> .....and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies). Have heat
> pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved enough to be a viable
> choice for a small, well-insulated New Jersey house?
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| Noon-Air 2006-01-14, 4:21 pm |
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"Sue Ann" <SueAnnK@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> .....and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies).
fossil fuel has nothing to do with poor indoor air quality.
> Have heat pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved
> enough to be a viable choice for a small, well-insulated
> New Jersey house?
yes
Check into correctly designed, installed, and sealed ductwork and some good
quality filtering... like a pleated filter for a pre-filter and electronic
(not electrostatic) filter. yes the filters and system will have to have
regular scheduled maintenance, for good efficiency and proper IAQ
performance.
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| On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:40:28 -0600, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
wrote:
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>"Sue Ann" <SueAnnK@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:23192-43C93809-392@storefull-3318.bay.webtv.net...
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>fossil fuel has nothing to do with poor indoor air quality.
Sure it does Steve. Dont you pipe your exhaust flue gasses into your
bedroom like we all do? :-)
Bubba
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>yes
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>Check into correctly designed, installed, and sealed ductwork and some good
>quality filtering... like a pleated filter for a pre-filter and electronic
>(not electrostatic) filter. yes the filters and system will have to have
>regular scheduled maintenance, for good efficiency and proper IAQ
>performance.
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| In addition to what Noon said, look into a humidifier. They can greatly
increase the comfort level. They have ones specially designed for heat
pumps.
"Sue Ann" <SueAnnK@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23192-43C93809-392@storefull-3318.bay.webtv.net...
> .....and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies). Have heat
> pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved enough to be a viable
> choice for a small, well-insulated New Jersey house?
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Sue Ann wrote:
> .....and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies). Have heat
> pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved enough to be a viable
> choice for a small, well-insulated New Jersey house?
If you can stand to wait till later this year then there will be plenty
of heat pumps out there to suit your needs.
Some of the new Carriers are being advertised as good down to 21 deg
below zero. Top of the line will be the "21 Series" coming in at 21
SEER -- due in Sept.
The other big names are in the competition as well, but I haven't
researched them all. If you can wait till fall to do your comparisons
you might have better luck and end up with something with better
performance.
hvacrmedic
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| B-Hate-Me 2006-01-15, 8:21 am |
| Sue Ann wrote:
> .....and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies). Have heat
> pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved enough to be a viable
> choice for a small, well-insulated New Jersey house?
>
Think again about geothermal.
It's a large up front expense, but rebates
help offset the initial cost and EER's of
25-30 make for REALLY cheap heat/cool bills.
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| Bob Pietrangelo 2006-01-15, 1:21 pm |
| Which humidifiers are specifically designed for Heat Pumps?
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"Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In addition to what Noon said, look into a humidifier. They can greatly
> increase the comfort level. They have ones specially designed for heat
> pumps.
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> "Sue Ann" <SueAnnK@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:23192-43C93809-392@storefull-3318.bay.webtv.net...
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| The Aprilaire 700 was designed to be able to be used with heat pumps (and
hot water). I wouldn't go so far as to say it was "specifically" designed
for heat pumps, because that implies it can only be used with heat pumps.
"Bob Pietrangelo" <bobp3@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Which humidifiers are specifically designed for Heat Pumps?
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> --
> Bob Pietrangelo
> bobp3@comcast.net
> bob@comfort-solution.biz
> www.comfort-solution.biz
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> "Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Bob Pietrangelo 2006-01-15, 2:21 pm |
| I am sure the cost of installing a new Carrier 21 SEER system wil be close
to the cost of a Geothermal system, less the loop. With New Jersey's rebate
program she can almost cover the loop. Which system would be better at that
point. I think the Geo system would. Now how reliable would this Carrier
system be? The Inffinity system has communication problems on most of their
systems built prior to 4 or 5 months ago.
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"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Sue Ann wrote:
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> If you can stand to wait till later this year then there will be plenty of
> heat pumps out there to suit your needs.
> Some of the new Carriers are being advertised as good down to 21 deg below
> zero. Top of the line will be the "21 Series" coming in at 21 SEER -- due
> in Sept.
>
> The other big names are in the competition as well, but I haven't
> researched them all. If you can wait till fall to do your comparisons you
> might have better luck and end up with something with better performance.
>
> hvacrmedic
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Bob Pietrangelo wrote:
> I am sure the cost of installing a new Carrier 21 SEER system wil be close
> to the cost of a Geothermal system, less the loop. With New Jersey's rebate
> program she can almost cover the loop. Which system would be better at that
> point. I think the Geo system would. Now how reliable would this Carrier
> system be? The Inffinity system has communication problems on most of their
> systems built prior to 4 or 5 months ago.
What sort of problems? AFAIK all of them that we've installed are
working perfectly at present. Some are zoned, and I have to add that
I've never encountered an easier zone system to install and set up.
Personally I would take the Infinity over the geo for several reasons.
Energy savings are going to be comparable if not superior (see the
article that I linked a few days back on actual data from field testing
of geo systems in the south), maintenance is going to be easier, and
there are no compressors in the closet down the hall, no circulating
pumps, no water lines, no dug up yard. The Infinity air-handler is
whisper quiet when installed correctly, and the new ones will run a 30
point on-board diagnostic. All of our infinity customers are quite
happy with their systems. The newer models should be at least acceptable
I would think.
hvacrmedic
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| Raines 2006-01-16, 3:21 am |
| Yes it will, just get an electric furnace backup if you really don't like
gas heat and that will be, at today's rates for gas, more economical.
Just make sure your utility has an electric heat rate that falls somewhere
below 5 cents/kwh, or gets down to 5 after hitting a certain kwh usage.
"Sue Ann" <SueAnnK@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23192-43C93809-392@storefull-3318.bay.webtv.net...
> .....and I've always hated combustible fuel (bad allergies). Have heat
> pumps (not geothermal-can't afford) improved enough to be a viable
> choice for a small, well-insulated New Jersey house?
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| Geoman^^ 2006-01-16, 12:21 pm |
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<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:42:33 -0500, SueAnnK@webtv.net (Sue Ann) wrote:
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> No.
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this is funny, Paul. You nuke every homeowner that comes here EXCEPT those
names that indicate their women! LOL !!
You ol' softy you! <g>
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| Bob Pietrangelo 2006-01-16, 5:21 pm |
| According to the most recent service bulletins they are having communication
problems on alot of the zoned systems.
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"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bob Pietrangelo wrote:
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> What sort of problems? AFAIK all of them that we've installed are working
> perfectly at present. Some are zoned, and I have to add that I've never
> encountered an easier zone system to install and set up.
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> Personally I would take the Infinity over the geo for several reasons.
> Energy savings are going to be comparable if not superior (see the article
> that I linked a few days back on actual data from field testing of geo
> systems in the south), maintenance is going to be easier, and there are no
> compressors in the closet down the hall, no circulating pumps, no water
> lines, no dug up yard. The Infinity air-handler is whisper quiet when
> installed correctly, and the new ones will run a 30 point on-board
> diagnostic. All of our infinity customers are quite happy with their
> systems. The newer models should be at least acceptable I would think.
>
> hvacrmedic
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| Bob Pietrangelo 2006-01-16, 5:21 pm |
| Bob (not me), I pasted your previous quote underneath the quote you just
said. Originally you said it was specifically designed for HP's, which
statement is the truth. (see rest of reply below)
"Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The Aprilaire 700 was designed to be able to be used with heat pumps (and
> hot water). I wouldn't go so far as to say it was "specifically" designed
> for heat pumps,
> "Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:pOSdnUP5B4B6-1TeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
You can also use a 550 or 600 on a HP. I almost always use hot water wether
it is a HP or Fossil.
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| I think you better go back and read it again. This is what I said "In
addition to what Noon said, look into a humidifier. They can greatly
increase the comfort level. They have ones specially designed for heat
pumps."
That's also what you pasted below.
"Bob Pietrangelo" <bobp3@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Bob (not me), I pasted your previous quote underneath the quote you just
> said. Originally you said it was specifically designed for HP's, which
> statement is the truth. (see rest of reply below)
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> "Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> You can also use a 550 or 600 on a HP. I almost always use hot water
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| Bob Pietrangelo 2006-01-16, 9:21 pm |
| "Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I think you better go back and read it again. This is what I said "In
> addition to what Noon said, look into a humidifier. They can greatly
> increase the comfort level. They have ones specially designed for heat
> pumps."
> That's also what you pasted below.
Aprilaires Humidifiers are designed for any forced air system, regardless of
fuel source. I have yet to discover a humidifier specifically designed for
HP's. First you say they are then you say they aren't then you say they
are. You are a frigging quack.
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> "Bob Pietrangelo" <bobp3@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Cooltemp Industries 2006-01-16, 10:21 pm |
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Bob Pietrangelo wrote:
> Aprilaires Humidifiers are designed for any forced air system, regardless of
> fuel source.
I've always preferred General Air humidifiers.
They have a built in by-pass damper (I think Aprilaire might have them
now, but they didn't used to), but they also include a remote humidifier
sensor for outdoors to allow for automatic humidity control.
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| You need to learn to friggin read.
"Bob Pietrangelo" <bobp3@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Aprilaires Humidifiers are designed for any forced air system, regardless
of
> fuel source. I have yet to discover a humidifier specifically designed
for
> HP's. First you say they are then you say they aren't then you say they
> are. You are a frigging quack.
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