Heating and air conditioning - Reclaiming machine

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Reclaiming machine

SQLit

2006-01-17, 3:21 pm

One of my clients has an situation that I would like some suggestions.

4-1000 ton chillers to remove the freon.
The time that it will take our machine to do the job is a problem.

Anyone got recommendations on a large volume reclaimer? Filtering can be
minimal.
I saw a gas powered reclaimer unit some time ago. Anyone know where to buy
one of these?

I have looked into purchase of a faster electric machine the $6k does give
pause for a single job.

Stormin Mormon

2006-01-17, 3:21 pm

Johnstone rents recovery machines. Didja check with them, and see if they
have a machine to rent you?

Are the chillers running? Can you ice up a couple recovery tanks, and use a
two hose system to pump liquid into the one tube while you return vapor with
the other? Which refrigerant? R11, or R69, or R22, or R123A, or what?

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"SQLit" <sqlit@qwest.net> wrote in message
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One of my clients has an situation that I would like some suggestions.

4-1000 ton chillers to remove the freon.
The time that it will take our machine to do the job is a problem.

Anyone got recommendations on a large volume reclaimer? Filtering can be
minimal.
I saw a gas powered reclaimer unit some time ago. Anyone know where to buy
one of these?

I have looked into purchase of a faster electric machine the $6k does give
pause for a single job.

whatsinaname

2006-01-17, 5:21 pm

"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Johnstone rents recovery machines. Didja check with them, and see if they
> have a machine to rent you?
>
> Are the chillers running? Can you ice up a couple recovery tanks, and use
> a
> two hose system to pump liquid into the one tube while you return vapor
> with
> the other? Which refrigerant? R11, or R69, or R22, or R123A, or what?
>

There once was a moron from Nantucket.....

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>
> Christopher A. Young
> You can't shout down a troll.
> You have to starve them.
> .
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> "SQLit" <sqlit@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:pGazf.1703$cc6.2062@news.uswest.net...
> One of my clients has an situation that I would like some suggestions.
>
> 4-1000 ton chillers to remove the freon.
> The time that it will take our machine to do the job is a problem.
>
> Anyone got recommendations on a large volume reclaimer? Filtering can be
> minimal.
> I saw a gas powered reclaimer unit some time ago. Anyone know where to buy
> one of these?
>
> I have looked into purchase of a faster electric machine the $6k does give
> pause for a single job.
>
>
>
>

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2006-01-17, 6:21 pm

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:30 -0700, "SQLit" <sqlit@qwest.net> wrote:

>One of my clients has an situation that I would like some suggestions.
>
>4-1000 ton chillers to remove the freon.
>The time that it will take our machine to do the job is a problem.
>
>Anyone got recommendations on a large volume reclaimer? Filtering can be
>minimal.
>I saw a gas powered reclaimer unit some time ago. Anyone know where to buy
>one of these?
>
>I have looked into purchase of a faster electric machine the $6k does give
>pause for a single job.

Talk to your local supply house / reclaiming branch, about
renting a machine for a few days. I've done it. Cheaper than buying.

Or sub-contracting the recovery work to them.

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RSCamaro

2006-01-17, 7:21 pm

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:30 -0700, "SQLit" <sqlit@qwest.net> wrote:

>One of my clients has an situation that I would like some suggestions.
>
>4-1000 ton chillers to remove the freon.
>The time that it will take our machine to do the job is a problem.
>
>Anyone got recommendations on a large volume reclaimer? Filtering can be
>minimal.
>I saw a gas powered reclaimer unit some time ago. Anyone know where to buy
>one of these?
>
>I have looked into purchase of a faster electric machine the $6k does give
>pause for a single job.

You don't need a recovery machine. You need a water cooled pump out
unit. Basically a small semi hermetic compressor (5hp or so)
connected to a water cooled condenser. A 1,000 ton machine depending
on shell size can hold thousands of pounds of refrigerant. 4 of
them... Nice :-)

With 4 1,000 ton machines, I assume on one site, they should have
bought a pump out unit when they bought the equipment. Where are you
going to transfere the refrigerant to?

Use the push/pull method to transfer the refrigerant to whatever
vessel you are using and recover the gas once the liquid is removed.
I'm sure that you know this already, I don't even know why I typed it.

...Ron
--
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00'GT Mustang

SQLit

2006-01-17, 9:21 pm

"RSCamaro" <rscamero@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:30 -0700, "SQLit" <sqlit@qwest.net> wrote:
>
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> You don't need a recovery machine. You need a water cooled pump out
> unit. Basically a small semi hermetic compressor (5hp or so)
> connected to a water cooled condenser. A 1,000 ton machine depending
> on shell size can hold thousands of pounds of refrigerant. 4 of
> them... Nice :-)

I keep asking what is in them and I am told either R12, or R22. Just
amazing that they are so caliver about it. I guess that is why we make the
big bucks.

I do not have the time to build your specified idea. Was hoping for an
"off the shelf" solution on this one. Must be the new year, cause I keep
running into people that want rid of machines.

>
> With 4 1,000 ton machines, I assume on one site, they should have
> bought a pump out unit when they bought the equipment. Where are you
> going to transfere the refrigerant to?

Vessels are not a problem. The building is being torn down. The previous
owner is or has sold most of the equipment. Unfortuntely there are lots of
medium sized business that have just ingored the new rules and regs. Good
idea about the equipment, I shall check in the morrow.

> Use the push/pull method to transfer the refrigerant to whatever
> vessel you are using and recover the gas once the liquid is removed.
> I'm sure that you know this already, I don't even know why I typed it.
>
> ...Ron
> --
> 68'RS Camaro
> 88'Formula
> 00'GT Mustang

RSCamaro

2006-01-18, 8:21 am

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:59:27 -0700, "SQLit" <sqlit@qwest.net> wrote:

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>I keep asking what is in them and I am told either R12, or R22. Just
>amazing that they are so caliver about it. I guess that is why we make the
>big bucks.
>
>I do not have the time to build your specified idea. Was hoping for an
>"off the shelf" solution on this one. Must be the new year, cause I keep
>running into people that want rid of machines.

It wasn't an idea that I came up with. These larger recovery machines
have been around for a long time.

A compressor and a water cooled condenser is all that there is to
them anyway. I'm sure that you could put the two together fairly
easily, doesn't take more than a compressor, water condenser, a few
valves, some flare fittings, and some tubing. An easy piece to make
for a one time application.

...Ron
--
68'RS Camaro
88'Formula
00'GT Mustang

ftwhd

2006-01-18, 6:21 pm

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