Heating and air conditioning - Re: New Newsgroup Proposal

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Re: New Newsgroup Proposal

Hank

2006-01-28, 3:21 am

"komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com>,
news:1138428528.689766.71510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com said:

> Hi;
>
> I would like to propose a new newsgroup called "alt.hvac.advice"
> There are over 40,000 posts on HVAC in Alt.Home.Repair. Many of
> these are soliciting advice on furnaces and central air
> conditioners. There are also many posts on these subjects in
> alt.hvac. The Alt.Hvac group has more or less splintered into
> two groups. Those that welcome general questions relating to
> HVAC and those that would like it to be for professionals in the
> trade to discuss the latest trends in the industry.

Can't alt.hvac discuss both? After all it is a (general) hvac group.
Maybe the 'professionals' should go elsewhere if they do not want to
discuss lowly, general, public information 'hvac' at alt.hvac?

> There are
> many arguments within the group as to whether home owners should
> post questions there soliciting advice from the pros.

Is there an PRO hvac froup the home owners are asking questions at?
If so... why can't they ask questions at a PRO group?

> Many feel
> they should post in Alt.Home.Repair. Many also feel that any
> HVAC subject is welcome in Alt.HVAC.

Either. Or.

> If this group is created, it will contribute to the harmony in
> the newsgroups and would be an obvious place where all people
> could post thier questions on HVAC related areas.

Is that what alt.HVAC is? HVAC related areas??
Alt.home.repair is for home repair Q & A also.

> If this group is created, it would be welcome to all
> professionals and novices in the field of Heating, Ventalation,
> and Air Conditioning. It would also be welcome to all who have a
> question on the operation, installation or repair of any
> residentional or industrial hvac system.
>
> Patrick Curran
>
>

CBHVAC

2006-01-28, 4:21 am

"Hank" <Your_email@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:43db13c9$0$181$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreenews.net...
> "komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com>,
> news:1138428528.689766.71510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com said:
>
>
> Can't alt.hvac discuss both? After all it is a (general) hvac group.
> Maybe the 'professionals' should go elsewhere if they do not want to
> discuss lowly, general, public information 'hvac' at alt.hvac?
>
>
> Is there an PRO hvac froup the home owners are asking questions at?
> If so... why can't they ask questions at a PRO group?

This IS the pro group, and no disrespect intended, its NOT the correct place
for homeowners.

>

Read the FAQ, and brush up on the way things should be done.
Start with, Basic Usenet 101, The Crosspost.

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>
> Either. Or.
>
>
> Is that what alt.HVAC is? HVAC related areas??
> Alt.home.repair is for home repair Q & A also.
>

Go start it...most of us are happy right were we have been for years.

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>

Jim McLaughlin

2006-01-28, 4:21 am

There is already an alt.hvac pro-series.moderated

It gets absolutely ZERO traffic.

Which, to me, demonstrates that the self proclaimed "Paul & pals
professional pricks" have zero interest in an actual forum for
"professionals" and instead like to demonstrate heir ignorance by picking on
anyone who asks a question here in alt.hvac.

Why establish another forum for "professionals" when the already existing
one is unused?

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"Hank" <Your_email@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:43db13c9$0$181$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreenews.net...
> "komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com>,
> news:1138428528.689766.71510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com said:
>
>
> Can't alt.hvac discuss both? After all it is a (general) hvac group.
> Maybe the 'professionals' should go elsewhere if they do not want to
> discuss lowly, general, public information 'hvac' at alt.hvac?
>
>
> Is there an PRO hvac froup the home owners are asking questions at?
> If so... why can't they ask questions at a PRO group?
>
>
> Either. Or.
>
>
> Is that what alt.HVAC is? HVAC related areas??
> Alt.home.repair is for home repair Q & A also.
>
>

2006-01-28, 6:21 am

Jim McLaughlin wrote:
> There is already an alt.hvac pro-series.moderated
>
> It gets absolutely ZERO traffic.
>
> Which, to me, demonstrates that the self proclaimed "Paul & pals
> professional pricks" have zero interest in an actual forum for
> "professionals" and instead like to demonstrate heir ignorance by picking on
> anyone who asks a question here in alt.hvac.
>
> Why establish another forum for "professionals" when the already existing
> one is unused?

*pops popcorn*
--
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2006-01-28, 11:21 am

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:32:03 -0800, "Jim McLaughlin" <jim.mclaughlin>
wrote:

>There is already an alt.hvac pro-series.moderated
>
>It gets absolutely ZERO traffic.

Some idiot a month ago 'started' that, did it totally wrong,
and it's just more dead-group-detritus on the long highway of Usenet.

>
>Which, to me, demonstrates that the self proclaimed "Paul & pals
>professional pricks" have zero interest in an actual forum for
>"professionals" and instead like to demonstrate heir ignorance by picking on
>anyone who asks a question here in alt.hvac.

Why don't you just shut the fuck up, XXXXXXX ?

>
>Why establish another forum for "professionals" when the already existing
>one is unused?

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BrianNOSPAM22@verizon.net

2006-01-28, 1:21 pm

Look, Paul appears to be a sad, angry guy living in a trailer with a bunch
of cats. He doesn't want newsgroup traffic pushed in a different direction
from alt.hvac. If participation in this group dropped off, then what would
he do? If someone spends the bulk of his day harassing posters to a
newsgroup, I would assume that person isn't getting any meaningful work
done. I don't know if Paul helped create this newsgroup. He certainly
hasn't helped to foster its growth.

RSCamaro

2006-01-28, 2:21 pm

On 28 Jan 2006 06:48:42 GMT, Hank <Your_email@mail.invalid> wrote:

>"komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com>,
>news:1138428528.689766.71510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com said:

<snip>

>Can't alt.hvac discuss both? After all it is a (general) hvac group.
>Maybe the 'professionals' should go elsewhere if they do not want to
>discuss lowly, general, public information 'hvac' at alt.hvac?

Hey, how about you just give me the keys to your house and you can go
to your parents home. After all that's where you grew up, right? You
don't need to be in the house that you pay rent or mortgage payments
on, so you may as well give it to me. Makes much sense doesn't it?

Why do you think that the regulars in this group need to have
professional attached to the name? The name is alt.hvac not
alt.general.hvac or alt.homeowner.hvac as you have inferred above.

Alt.home.repair is the common sense place to go for home owners that
are looking for ideas to solve their heating and cooling issues.
Newsgroups are generally made up of people who have a common interest
in a certain subject. People are asked to bring their questions over
to the appropriate group, maybe you'd be more happy there as well.

...Ron
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