Heating and air conditioning - people, please quit bottom-posting

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people, please quit bottom-posting

John Smith

2006-01-12, 2:21 am

please post your replies at the top, so we don't have to waste time
scrolling down

duh!

Ken Fox

2006-01-12, 2:21 am

"John Smith" <me@myhouse.com> wrote in message
news:K8idncuUlpBycVjeRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> please post your replies at the top, so we don't have to waste time
> scrolling down
>
> duh!
>

good luck; I predict you will have no success. What is more, there are
situations where bottom posting is more appropriate. Usenet etiquette is
hugely overrated.

kne

DeeAa

2006-01-12, 3:21 am

"John Smith" <me@myhouse.com> wrote in message
news:K8idncuUlpBycVjeRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> please post your replies at the top, so we don't have to waste time
> scrolling down
>
Well, I'm a teacher at a local Uni for business studies, and among other
things the correct way to use the news and email, and I always make sure
people will understand that top-posting is a very bad idea indeed.

It just isn't logical and is very unclear. Instead one should delete
unnecessary parts of the original message and use > symbols to indicate the
comments that they'd like to address, making sure the name&address of the
original poster is clearly understandable for each reply line.

This creates a very logical and easy-to follow read and saves bandwidth.

When a person hasn't done this elimination of extra lines, one can just hit
the end key instead of scrolling to get to the end.

More problems in top-posting come from the fact that top-posters very often
don't even read the whole message, or their replies are ambiguous to a new
reader, since they aren't in a logical order and in correct places.
Furthermore, if people don't take the time to answer properly and edit the
message accordingly, their replies also usually reflect this and top-posted
messages often not only misunderstand and alter the point of the original
message, are also the weapon of choice for flamers and trolls because it
seems the easy way out of you are not very competent with writing on a
keyboard and editing text. later it becomes a second nature and takes no
extra time.

Furthermore, when one reads a thread not from the beginning, but comes along
later, it is very confusing and hard indeed having to scroll back and forth
huge amounts of text in order to understand the latest replies, which make
no sense out of context and in an illogical order.

So please please quit top-posting!

A: It generates illogical structures
Q: Why?
A: One should avoid top-posting

Not good.

Cheers,

Dee

RandyC

2006-01-12, 3:21 am

Ken Fox wrote:
> "John Smith" <me@myhouse.com> wrote in message
> news:K8idncuUlpBycVjeRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>
>
>
> good luck; I predict you will have no success. What is more, there are
> situations where bottom posting is more appropriate. Usenet etiquette is
> hugely overrated.
>
> kne

Bottom posting *is* proper Usenet ettiquette, dumbass.

Example:

A: Nobody knows what you're talking about, or replying to.

> Q: What's wrong with top-posting?

D. Ross

2006-01-12, 3:21 am

| please post your replies at the top, so we don't have to waste time
| scrolling down

As others have pointed out, bottom-posting (or the slicker inline-reply) has
been the convention in Usenet since the days when we read posts on teletype
machines and propogated posts by sneakernet. There are arguments for and
against the convention, these arguments haven't really changed in 20 years,
and I shouldn't think raising them again in a thread in a coffee newsgroup
is going to solve anything.

- David R.
--
Less information than you ever thought possible:
http://www.demitasse.net

ray o'hara

2006-01-12, 4:21 am

ensenadajim

2006-01-12, 5:21 am

Bottom posting was developed for the intellectually stunted who need
reminding of everything before they could frame a suitable reply.

;->

jim

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:46:54 +1100, RandyC
<localburururuur@earthlink.net> wrote:
[color=darkred]
>Ken Fox wrote:
>
>
>Bottom posting *is* proper Usenet ettiquette, dumbass.
>
>
>Example:
>
>
>
>A: Nobody knows what you're talking about, or replying to.
>
>
>
>

Buck Naked

2006-01-12, 6:21 am

Yeah, you set these fucktards straight, jim!

"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:m36cs1l0d7mam9bgkbreafqe3nj8c49pko@4ax.com...
>
>
> Bottom posting was developed for the intellectually stunted who need
> reminding of everything before they could frame a suitable reply.
>
> ;->
>
>
> jim
>

^^indifference^^

2006-01-12, 6:21 am

I love it when someone bottom posts a reply to a fucking 80 line post while
including the entire original post, then the next motherfucker does the same
thing.

"ensenadajim" <ensenadaXXXjim@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:m36cs1l0d7mam9bgkbreafqe3nj8c49pko@4ax.com...
>
>
> Bottom posting was developed for the intellectually stunted who need
> reminding of everything before they could frame a suitable reply.
>
> ;->
>
>
> jim
>
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:46:54 +1100, RandyC
> <localburururuur@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
is[color=darkred]
>
>

^^indifference^^

2006-01-12, 6:21 am

"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu> wrote in message
news:43c5fdf3.90175315@localhost...
> | please post your replies at the top, so we don't have to waste time
> | scrolling down
>
> As others have pointed out, bottom-posting (or the slicker inline-reply)
has
> been the convention in Usenet since the days when we read posts on
teletype
> machines and propogated posts by sneakernet. There are arguments for and
> against the convention, these arguments haven't really changed in 20
years,
> and I shouldn't think raising them again in a thread in a coffee newsgroup
> is going to solve anything.

Please dont cross-post to alt.hvac you azzclownz.

beekeep

2006-01-12, 7:21 am

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:45:19 -0500, "John Smith" <me@myhouse.com> wrote:

>please post your replies at the top, so we don't have to waste time
>scrolling down
>
>duh!
>
>
Get a life!

beekeep

Ralph K

2006-01-12, 7:21 am

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:45:19 -0500, "John Smith" <me@myhouse.com>
wrote:

>please post your replies

There is a new Euro

> at the top, so we don't have to waste time

way of inter

>scrolling down

posting. It's pretty

>
>duh!
>

cool. Try it!

Ralph K

2006-01-12, 7:21 am

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:45:19 -0500, "John Smith" <me@myhouse.com>
wrote:

>please post your replies at the top, so we don't have to waste time
>scrolling down
>
>duh!
>
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I felt so
>stunned and sad. My ears were ringing and my shoulders slumped."
>
>http://www.knac.com/article.asp?Art...+2%3A30%3A47+PM
>
>I meant Eddie at the NAMM show a couple years ago and he was such dick
>i wanted to kick his XXX. No autographs, he was like 3 hours late to
>his gig and look liked he was scrapped up from the gutter and to top
>it off his attitude was shit. EDDIE CAN GO SUCK AQ DICK!
>
>
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
>
>Well I made my trek to NAMM a few weeks ago and saw Eddie Van Halen at
>the Peavey booth. I was surprised to see how far downhill his health
>has gone. He was skinny and his skin made him look 20 years older
>than he is.
>I was told from a friend of mine who was also at the show that Ed's
>security guards kicked some guy out of the mens restroom while he was
>using the head, just so Ed could use the restroom, sad days! I was a
>huge Van Halen fan but I must say I have lost respect and faith for
>Eddie, though he can still draw a crowd, it's his past merits that
>keep the ember glowing.
>R-Man
>
>
>http://archive.unearthed.com/?news,2003,01,0000013162
>
>"O.K. guys here's what happened. I was in the booth with Edward. Ed
>arrived late because of overcrowding around the booth and they had to
>ensure security. I was 4th of only 8 people to be allowed in who were
>not connected to Peavey. Ed walked in, greeted the crowd, mentioned
>the people responsible for his Peavey gear then said quote. 'I've had
>a lot of personal problems in the past 3 years, but I'm happy and
>healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually. I see the light at the
>end of my tunnel and it's not an oncoming train so I've got some shit
>coming out next year that's gonna blow you away.' He was talking of
>Peavey gear not music ... sorry. He said he already had a patent on
>one device of his coming out but he has to wait to make sure it works
>and won't break. As for new music, he said he has some film music
>coming out as well as a T.V. sitcom score coming out. Then someone in
>the crowd said 'Eddie, everyone loves you,' to which he replied, 'I
>love you, too, and that's why I haven't put anything out in a while..
>Ya know, people at the gas station keep tellin' me, 'How come you're
>not doin' stuff anymore... Ya know, just because I haven't put
>anything out doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.' He said for the
>past 4 years he has been playing mostly piano and cello and that the
>guitar felt like a 2x4. As for the future of VAN HALEN, he said, 'I'm
>not going to put my name on something that isn't going to last, my
>shit lasts after I'm dead and gone which isn't gonna be for a long
>time.' He then took his Wolfgang guitar and banged it hard against a
>mike stand. It stayed in tune and Edward said, 'I don't sell you guys
>shit that breaks,' and it was clear that he was talking not just about
>his gear but about VAN HALEN's music as well. The room was a little
>tense. It was hard to believe it was really Edward after so long. But
>he joked around a lot to ease the tension, even going so far as to say
>that he would sing next for VH. 'I'm gonna sing, I've got some new
>moves I've been working on.' He then proceeded to do a series of
>pelvic thrusts and hip shakes. It was hysterical. He looked good and
>once he had relaxed became the ed we all know ... Then he played
>guitar and spoke some more."
>"You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze." It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk. A lot of
>people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds."
>
>
>A day in the life of Eddie Van Hobo:
>
>http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7839
>
>Forget Paul Stanley and Joe Satriani… Take Me Straight To Eddie Van
>Halen
>
>By this time, I figured that I would head over to Peavey and since I
>had my press credentials, maybe I would have time to have a few words
>with Edward Van Halen, who was due to appear at 1:30. My plan was to
>speak with EVH, then cruise by the Ibanez booth and speak with Joe
>Satriani (due at 2 PM), and then go to another booth and see Kiss
>guitarist Paul Stanley (in full makeup). This is the way things happen
>at NAMM on Saturday, “bada-bing,bad-BOOM”!
>
>Well the first thing I found out at Peavey was, that Edward would be
>late in arriving. HOW late I did not know. The second thing I found
>out was that, I wasn’t the only one that was waiting for him to
>arrive. The booth was soon completely FILLED with people. A line
>around the booth followed that. Nervous looking Peavey employees and
>security guards patiently answered people’s questions about what the
>“hubbub” was all about, and WHEN would HE arrive!
>
>While waiting for the great VH, I ran into my friend, Armored
>Saint/DC4 guitarist Jeff Duncan. First words out of his mouth were,
>“Where’s Eddie”? He told me that he and his old band Odin, featuring
>his brother Sean on drums had reunited for a few shows, and that he
>would be busy with that and of course the other bands in 2003. By then
>the crowd was becoming impatient, (go figure), and no EVH to be seen.
>So much for speaking with Satriani or Paul Stanley, or anybody else
>for that matter if I was going to get a shot at seeing this dude.
>
>Finally at about 4 PM he showed up and I was ushered into a soundproof
>booth that he would be “performing” at. After speaking with company
>founder Hartley Peavey upstairs in the office area for quite some
>time, Van Halen made his way into the performance booth, completely
>MOBBED by his fans. What followed was something bordering on bizarre.
>
>Looking like he just got out of bed, (he may have) and speaking in a
>croaking voice, he told the crowd that he would be granting no
>interviews or signing anything. Damn! He also refused to discuss
>anything about the new products that he and Peavey had been working
>on, explaining that he simply didn’t want to give an endorsement to a
>product that was still in the experimental stage. After refusing to
>answer some of the crowd’s questions about equipment, some one
>screamed for him to play, and he reluctantly grabbed a guitar, plugged
>it into one of his signature Peavey 5150 amps, and proceeded to noodle
>away at it -- with his back to the audience! After turning around and
>explaining that he had not been playing much guitar lately, just piano
>and cello, (cello?) he played a few vintage riffs before stopping and
>telling the crowd that he didn’t want to play anything old for the
>“punk-asses” that were inside with their video recorders, taping the
>event. He did however start playing the opening riff to “Mean
>Streets,” before stopping and once again telling a VERY disappointed
>crowd that he would not give them anything from the past. Matter of
>fact, he didn’t seem to want to give them anything from the future
>either, explaining that he would not play or talk about anything that
>wasn’t finished.
>
>Van Halen then smacked his guitar on the microphone stand and one of
>the employees heads a few times, saying that that was what he loved
>about his guitars, meaning that they could be bashed about and still
>stay in tune. He then played a boogie riff that he said he had just
>written, and then, just like that, it was over. Off he went,
>surrounded by security, and a few hundred disappointed fans. What the
>fuck? I (and just about everyone else that was in that room) wondered.
>Oh well, that’s rock n roll. Time will tell what will happen with the
>future of Van Halen, and the products he will endorse and produce.
>What was so weird and coincidental about his tardiness, (“I don’t FEEL
>tardy”) was that it bumped a performance by Tribe Of Judah, a new band
>featuring the last Van Halen vocalist, Gary Cherone to the next day,
>in that same performance booth!
>
>
>http://share.shutterfly.com/action/...=8AYtG7di5aNHIg
>
>The pics
>
>http://www.foundrymusic.com/BANDS/d...D_AT_NAMM_.html
>
>I got to NAMM day 2 (for me) at 12:30. Eddie was scheduled to appear
>and perform at 1:30 and sign autographs 2:30 to 4pm. He showed up and
>walked RIGHT directly in front of me and looked bad. He was dressed
>like a bum and looked feeble as he walked. He went upstairs where no
>one is really allowed and sat where we could sort of see him for about
>an hour. A Peavey employee looked annoyed and said that he always
>wants to talk business at the wrong times. He waved a bit, and Mark
>Tremonti and John Pretucci went upstairs and took pictures with him.
>
>He finally came down and did his performance an hour late. Someone who
>was in there said he seemed lost and not quite sure what he was doing.
>He talked a bit, played guitar (just noodling), and that was it. No
>one really knew his purpose. He went back upstairs and sat in the same
>spot. Every once in a while he would lean over and talk, but he said
>weird things, would whisper, then his hat fell. He got mad and
>screamed saying he needed it, and pleaded and got it back when someone
>threw it up to him.
>
>At 4:00pm, after I'd been in line for 3.5 hours, others for 4 or 5, we
>get the word he is not signing. This is AFTER we chanted his name and
>he leaned over, giving us the 'hush' sign and whispered "Stick around
>a while, ok?". So we did for nothing. There were probably 700 or so
>people there for him and that was it. The crowd dispersed(sp?), and I
>stuck around. Some others did too.
>
>Finally he came downstairs to leave about 4:30. This is where it gets
>sad. He looked lost. He kept repeating, very slurred, "I'll take care
>of everyone next time, next time. Tell everyone I'll take care of them
>next time, next time. He had a small entourage around him of security,
>yet he was walking right by me again. He was soft spoken, but very
>slurred. He stopped for about one autograph and one picture and then
>said to everyone else again what I wrote above. he kind of stumbled
>then walked past me.
>
>You know how bums can just wreak of old alcohol. I got a huge wiff of
>that as he past. It took me about 5 seconds to say aloud, "He's
>fucking hammered!" The guy next to me said, "Yeah, he wreaks of
>booze."
>
>It hit me. He was hammered. Flat out fucking drunk.
>
>A lot of people were pissed and booed him. Conversations everywhere
>about how he was done. People talking about burning their VH Cds.
>
>I hate to make this report, but its so true. I am 24 and have waited
>10 years for this, and I waited in line 3.5 hours while he jacked off
>upstairs and then told us to stick around, then he decided to not sign
>or meet anyone at all. I don't think they LET him. I think he was too
>drunk and they didn't want to embarrass him. Honest to god. I f