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How much savings from setting thermostat lower?
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| Anybody know how much you can save on gas by setting the thermostat lower?
I'm kinda looking for x% on the bill for each degree you set it back. So if
I drop it from 68 degrees to 65 degrees is that a big savings? Or just
noticable on the bill?
What about Night setback? I set the thermostat back about 10 degrees - from
68 daytime to 58 night.
I know it makes more of a difference when it's colder outside. If it's
warm, the furnace may not run much at night. Also depends on level of
insulation.
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| Mo Hoaner 2006-02-26, 7:21 pm |
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"Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:HqpMf.40733$H71.13693@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> Anybody know how much you can save on gas by setting the thermostat lower?
> I'm kinda looking for x% on the bill for each degree you set it back. So
> if I drop it from 68 degrees to 65 degrees is that a big savings? Or just
> noticable on the bill?
>
> What about Night setback? I set the thermostat back about 10 degrees -
> from 68 daytime to 58 night.
>
> I know it makes more of a difference when it's colder outside. If it's
> warm, the furnace may not run much at night. Also depends on level of
> insulation.
>
First, you need a new thermostat. Those really expensive programmable
digital ones will do the trick. You need to calculate how long the furnace
runs during a 24 hour day. You also need to log when it runs, what the
outdoor temperature is, what the indoor temperature is, and what the rate of
rise is. After you have your log, you need to program the thermostat such
that the desired heating temperature is below (t outdoor + (20 / rate of
rise)). This will generally show a 33 % reduction in heating cost. Cooling
savings similar to that can be accomplished, also. Hope this helps.
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-02-26, 7:21 pm |
| On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:03:27 -0500, "Mo Hoaner" <spam@uce.gov> wrote:
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>"Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>news:HqpMf.40733$H71.13693@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>First, you need a new thermostat. Those really expensive programmable
>digital ones will do the trick. You need to calculate how long the furnace
>runs during a 24 hour day. You also need to log when it runs, what the
>outdoor temperature is, what the indoor temperature is, and what the rate of
>rise is. After you have your log, you need to program the thermostat such
>that the desired heating temperature is below (t outdoor + (20 / rate of
>rise)). This will generally show a 33 % reduction in heating cost. Cooling
>savings similar to that can be accomplished, also. Hope this helps.
>
Aw, shit. You told.
How's anyone gonna charge him money for that NOW ????
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| Bennett Price 2006-02-26, 8:21 pm |
| Look at
http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer...m/mytopic=12720
Skip wrote:
> Anybody know how much you can save on gas by setting the thermostat lower?
> I'm kinda looking for x% on the bill for each degree you set it back. So if
> I drop it from 68 degrees to 65 degrees is that a big savings? Or just
> noticable on the bill?
>
> What about Night setback? I set the thermostat back about 10 degrees - from
> 68 daytime to 58 night.
>
> I know it makes more of a difference when it's colder outside. If it's
> warm, the furnace may not run much at night. Also depends on level of
> insulation.
>
>
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| DoubleEntendre 2006-02-26, 9:21 pm |
| Comments on this site?
I think if it's true (after years of debating this concept) it is a site to
highly recommend to all end users (if it's true). As a dispatcher for a few
years with a HVAC company I often had difficulty giving advice (that the
techs taught me) on this issue because of conflicting observations.......
So experts, what do you think?
DE
"Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:44023CB2.80806@itsa.ucsf.edu...
> Look at
>
http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer...ooling/index.cf
m/mytopic=12720[color=darkred]
>
>
>
> Skip wrote:
lower?[color=darkred]
So if[color=darkred]
from[color=darkred]
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| On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:16:27 -0500, "DoubleEntendre"
<potatoesjoe@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Comments on this site?
>
>I think if it's true (after years of debating this concept) it is a site to
>highly recommend to all end users (if it's true). As a dispatcher for a few
>years with a HVAC company I often had difficulty giving advice (that the
>techs taught me) on this issue because of conflicting observations.......
>
>So experts, what do you think?
>
>DE
>
I think you need to dispatch cabs.
Bubba
>
>
>"Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
>news:44023CB2.80806@itsa.ucsf.edu...
>http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer...ooling/index.cf
>m/mytopic=12720
>lower?
>So if
>from
>
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| Oscar_Lives 2006-02-26, 11:21 pm |
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"Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:HqpMf.40733$H71.13693@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> Anybody know how much you can save on gas by setting the thermostat lower?
> I'm kinda looking for x% on the bill for each degree you set it back. So
> if I drop it from 68 degrees to 65 degrees is that a big savings? Or just
> noticable on the bill?
>
> What about Night setback? I set the thermostat back about 10 degrees -
> from 68 daytime to 58 night.
>
> I know it makes more of a difference when it's colder outside. If it's
> warm, the furnace may not run much at night. Also depends on level of
> insulation.
Are you talking about a cheap set-back thermostat, or one of the new deluxe
digital ones?
The digital thermostats are the best, but you got to go top of the line to
get the most savings.
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| Oscar_Lives 2006-02-26, 11:21 pm |
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"DoubleEntendre" <potatoesjoe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Comments on this site?
>
> I think if it's true (after years of debating this concept) it is a site
> to
> highly recommend to all end users (if it's true). As a dispatcher for a
> few
> years with a HVAC company I often had difficulty giving advice (that the
> techs taught me) on this issue because of conflicting observations.......
>
> So experts, what do you think?
>
> DE
I think it is the thermostat. Get a digital one.
>
>
>
>
> "Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
> news:44023CB2.80806@itsa.ucsf.edu...
> http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer...ooling/index.cf
> m/mytopic=12720
> lower?
> So if
> from
>
>
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| Tekkie® 2006-02-26, 11:21 pm |
| posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
> I think you need to dispatch cabs.
> Bubba
>
I think he needs to dispatch himself off this group.
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I said I don't know and I don't care...
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| Tekkie® 2006-02-26, 11:21 pm |
| Oscar_Lives posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
>
> "Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:HqpMf.40733$H71.13693@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
> Are you talking about a cheap set-back thermostat, or one of the new deluxe
> digital ones?
>
> The digital thermostats are the best, but you got to go top of the line to
> get the most savings.
>
>
>
That's right! If you want savings you have to pay for it!
--
My boss said I was dumb and apathetic.
I said I don't know and I don't care...
Tekkie
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| Noon-Air 2006-02-26, 11:21 pm |
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"Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:HqpMf.40733$H71.13693@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> Anybody know how much you can save on gas by setting the thermostat lower?
> I'm kinda looking for x% on the bill for each degree you set it back. So
> if I drop it from 68 degrees to 65 degrees is that a big savings? Or just
> noticable on the bill?
>
> What about Night setback? I set the thermostat back about 10 degrees -
> from 68 daytime to 58 night.
>
> I know it makes more of a difference when it's colder outside. If it's
> warm, the furnace may not run much at night. Also depends on level of
> insulation.
I dunno.... how much can I save on gas for my truck if I drive it 3 miles an
hour slower??
Thats basicly what you just asked... *Nobody* can give you any kind of
legitimate answer without a whole lot more information.
Best you can hope for is to either call your favorite tech, or call the
local utility company...they can give you a whole lot better answer than
anybody here.
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| Taylor Morrison 2006-02-27, 12:21 am |
| Noon-Air wrote:
> "Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:HqpMf.40733$H71.13693@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
> I dunno.... how much can I save on gas for my truck if I drive it 3 miles an
> hour slower??
>
> Thats basicly what you just asked... *Nobody* can give you any kind of
> legitimate answer without a whole lot more information.
> Best you can hope for is to either call your favorite tech, or call the
> local utility company...they can give you a whole lot better answer than
> anybody here.
The DoE estimates a reasonable average is 10% for a 10-15 degree setback for
eigiht hours. The energy used to bring the house back up to temp is about a
wash with the energy saved when the temp was falling to the setback setting.
Also longer run times tend to be (slightly) more efficient, so no problem with
the long cycle during recovery. The real savings come from the reduced
temperature differential between inside and outside during the setback. Less
differential means less heat loss which means savings. Because of this the
amount saved will depend on the outdoor temp, the indoor temp, and the heat loss
of your house. HTH!
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| thrugoodmarshall@hotmail.com 2006-02-27, 12:21 pm |
| One biiillllion dollars...
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| Hey Skip
Disregard Paul comets he loves to exercise his hemorrhoids
Dido say that
"Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:HqpMf.40733$H71.13693@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> Anybody know how much you can save on gas by setting the thermostat lower?
> I'm kinda looking for x% on the bill for each degree you set it back. So
> if I drop it from 68 degrees to 65 degrees is that a big savings? Or just
> noticable on the bill?
>
> What about Night setback? I set the thermostat back about 10 degrees -
> from 68 daytime to 58 night.
>
> I know it makes more of a difference when it's colder outside. If it's
> warm, the furnace may not run much at night. Also depends on level of
> insulation.
>
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<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:52:39 GMT, "Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Fucking go do your own homework.
>
> And post this bullshit in alt.home.repair, not here.
>
>
Thanks for your very helpful answer to my question. It's nice to see that
are such intellegent thoughtful people here. Are all HVAC people like this?
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"Taylor Morrison" <taylor@spam.free> wrote in message
news:44026C52.DC8B3A45@spam.free...
> Noon-Air wrote:
>
>
> The DoE estimates a reasonable average is 10% for a 10-15 degree setback
> for
> eigiht hours. The energy used to bring the house back up to temp is about
> a
> wash with the energy saved when the temp was falling to the setback
> setting.
> Also longer run times tend to be (slightly) more efficient, so no problem
> with
> the long cycle during recovery. The real savings come from the reduced
> temperature differential between inside and outside during the setback.
> Less
> differential means less heat loss which means savings. Because of this the
> amount saved will depend on the outdoor temp, the indoor temp, and the
> heat loss
> of your house. HTH!
>
>
Thanks Taylor. That's what I was looking for - just a ballpark.
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-03-03, 10:21 am |
| On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 03:03:45 GMT, "Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net>
wrote:
>
><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:40b4029cm1ghda35r9mds3q3ujk29ka6a7@4ax.com...
>Thanks for your very helpful answer to my question. It's nice to see that
>are such intellegent thoughtful people here. Are all HVAC people like this?
>
When you bother them at home and don't pay them, yes.
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| buffalobill 2006-03-05, 10:21 am |
| if it is a 10 percent savings, other factors include degree DAYS and
the wind chill factor. not to mention the variable costs of the energy
itself.
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| Tekkie® 2006-03-06, 12:21 am |
| buffalobill posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
> if it is a 10 percent savings, other factors include degree DAYS and
> the wind chill factor. not to mention the variable costs of the energy
> itself.
>
>
I don't understand how wind chill factor affect it?
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| CAVHBC 2006-03-06, 12:21 am |
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"Tekkie®" <Tekkie@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> buffalobill posted for all of us...
> I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
>
> I don't understand how wind chill factor affect it?
Hes not sure either, but it sounded good when he was trying to sound like he
had a clue.
> --
> My boss said I was dumb and apathetic.
> I said I don't know and I don't care...
>
> Tekkie
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-03-06, 12:21 am |
| On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:43:21 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
wrote:
>
>"Tekkie®" <Tekkie@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:gsKdneyH1ZdOM5bZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>Hes not sure either, but it sounded good when he was trying to sound like he
>had a clue.
So he was illin', not chillin' ?
>
>
>
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'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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| CAVHBC 2006-03-06, 12:21 am |
|
<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:43:21 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> So he was illin', not chillin' ?
He was so chillin, it was gellin...
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>
> http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-03-06, 12:21 am |
| On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:02:15 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
wrote:
>
><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:dhcn02hlf9uv0vovaett2j3j4bei5pt8vi@4ax.com...
>
>He was so chillin, it was gellin...
What say we all chip in and find who wrote that commercial,
and shoot him ?
>
>
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'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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| CAVHBC 2006-03-06, 12:21 am |
|
<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:02:15 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> What say we all chip in and find who wrote that commercial,
> and shoot him ?
>
But...he might be magellin..
>
> --
>
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>
> http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-03-06, 1:21 am |
| On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:08:31 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
wrote:
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><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:gbdn02h1v71jmthu1rnp5d3i48dcjchkqf@4ax.com...
>
>But...he might be magellin..
He might be found in a 55 gallon barrel of gooey green foot
gel .....
>
>
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'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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| CAVHBC 2006-03-06, 1:21 am |
|
<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:08:31 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> He might be found in a 55 gallon barrel of gooey green foot
> gel .....
Oh...you are SO not gellin...
>
>
> --
>
> Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
>
> http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/
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"Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
> <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> news:40b4029cm1ghda35r9mds3q3ujk29ka6a7@4ax.com...
> Thanks for your very helpful answer to my question. It's nice to see that
> are such intellegent thoughtful people here. Are all HVAC people like
> this?
No Skip
we are not all like Paul he is having some identity crises
sorry I can't help you, however setting thermostat back
benefits are not always visible and are not worth effort
Good luck from Dido
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| .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com 2006-03-06, 11:21 am |
| On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:04:29 GMT, "DILDO" <a.seput@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>news:lmONf.18391$2O6.5610@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>
> No Skip
>we are not all like Paul he is having some identity crises
>sorry I can't help you, however setting thermostat back
>benefits are not always visible and are not worth effort
>Good luck from Dildo
>
Such a polite little Dildo....
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| CAVHBC 2006-03-06, 1:21 pm |
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"buffalobill" <wjohnston@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1141659043.162364.96340@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> here's the wind factor link to pdf:
> http://www.buildingscience.com/reso...e_buildings.pdf
>
That has NOTHING to do with wind chill.....
Do you even have a clue what you are talking about? I mean, because so far,
its obvious you dont.
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| Noon-Air 2006-03-07, 12:21 am |
|
"CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com> wrote in message
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>
> "buffalobill" <wjohnston@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:1141659043.162364.96340@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>
> That has NOTHING to do with wind chill.....
>
> Do you even have a clue what you are talking about? I mean, because so
> far, its obvious you dont.
He wouldn't have that "wind factor" if he would just stop eating at Taco
Bell
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| PrecisionMechanicaL 2006-03-14, 12:21 am |
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"DIDO" <a.seput@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:lmONf.18391$2O6.5610@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
that[color=darkred]
>
> No Skip
> we are not all like Paul he is having some identity crises
He has you fixated....
> sorry I can't help you, however setting thermostat back
Because even basic thermodynamics escape you pea fucking brain.
> benefits are not always visible and are not worth effort
Set the system controls to basically correspond to outside
ambient.....GUARANTEED it'll cost him next to nothing to operate.....
( Which pretty much splains why the beer is usually warm when I buy it at
that fucking Arab store downtown, too )........
--
SVL
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| On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:52:39 GMT, "Skip" <sallison@ameritech.net>
wrote:
>Anybody know how much you can save on gas by setting the thermostat lower?
>I'm kinda looking for x% on the bill for each degree you set it back. So if
>I drop it from 68 degrees to 65 degrees is that a big savings? Or just
>noticable on the bill?
>
>What about Night setback? I set the thermostat back about 10 degrees - from
>68 daytime to 58 night.
>
>I know it makes more of a difference when it's colder outside. If it's
>warm, the furnace may not run much at night. Also depends on level of
>insulation.
>
The figures the Government and utilities use are 10%. They assume a
10F setback for eight hours.
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