Heating and air conditioning - New cased A-coil and furnace (alignment)

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New cased A-coil and furnace (alignment)

Puddin' Man

2006-03-25, 11:21 am

Re: New cased A-coil and furnace (alignment)

'allo,

I recently had a contractor replace my old Carrier
furnace, etc with lo-end Heil eqpt.

The matching cased A-coil unit sits slightly akilter on the furnace.

Viewing from the front, the coil unit is flush on the left side.
Extends about 1/4 " over the furnace edge on the right. On the
front and back, one corner is flush and the other is 1/4" off.

How do the cased A-coil units fit onto the furnace? Are
they supposed to align perfectly?

I've paid the contractor (evidently a mistake on my part,
should've held back something), and am wondering if
this constitutes poor workmanship that might justify
a BBB complaint. As near as I can tell, they didn't do a
very good job except on the plenum, which *looks* good, but
might be the reason the A-coil doesn't align.

Any/all suggestions/info much appreciated.

Cheers,
Puddin'

gofish@gonefishin.net

2006-03-25, 12:21 pm

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:10:48 GMT, Puddin' Man <pudding.man@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Re: New cased A-coil and furnace (alignment)
>
>'allo,
>
>I recently had a contractor replace my old Carrier
>furnace, etc with lo-end Heil eqpt.
>
>The matching cased A-coil unit sits slightly akilter on the furnace.
>
>Viewing from the front, the coil unit is flush on the left side.
>Extends about 1/4 " over the furnace edge on the right. On the
>front and back, one corner is flush and the other is 1/4" off.
>
>How do the cased A-coil units fit onto the furnace? Are
>they supposed to align perfectly?
>
>I've paid the contractor (evidently a mistake on my part,
>should've held back something), and am wondering if
>this constitutes poor workmanship that might justify
>a BBB complaint. As near as I can tell, they didn't do a
>very good job except on the plenum, which *looks* good, but
>might be the reason the A-coil doesn't align.
>
>Any/all suggestions/info much appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>Puddin'

you bought bottom of the barrel crap, WTF do you expect?
whine to the BBB about the manufacturer of the equipment, not to the
contractor who merely installed the crap you wanted.

you sir, are one whiney cheap fuck. be thankful you found any
contractor willing to put up with your ignorance and stupidity.

CAVHBC

2006-03-26, 12:21 am

"Puddin' Man" <pudding.man@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Re: New cased A-coil and furnace (alignment)
>
> 'allo,
>
> I recently had a contractor replace my old Carrier
> furnace, etc with lo-end Heil eqpt.
>
> The matching cased A-coil unit sits slightly akilter on the furnace.
>
> Viewing from the front, the coil unit is flush on the left side.
> Extends about 1/4 " over the furnace edge on the right. On the
> front and back, one corner is flush and the other is 1/4" off.

OMG.....OMG!!! GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!!!

THat 1.4 inch opening is where SATAN will return from!!

>
> How do the cased A-coil units fit onto the furnace? Are
> they supposed to align perfectly?
>
> I've paid the contractor (evidently a mistake on my part,
> should've held back something), and am wondering if
> this constitutes poor workmanship that might justify
> a BBB complaint. As near as I can tell, they didn't do a
> very good job except on the plenum, which *looks* good, but
> might be the reason the A-coil doesn't align.

Call the BBB....please...whine...and gripe...and whine...and see if anyone
really cares.

>
> Any/all suggestions/info much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Puddin'

.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2006-03-26, 12:21 am

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:25:14 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
wrote:

>
>"Puddin' Man" <pudding.man@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:jcna229p89ic14mg0jtg7ujlpferndrv0t@4ax.com...
>
>OMG.....OMG!!! GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!!!
>
>THat 1.4 inch opening is where SATAN will return from!!
>
>Call the BBB....please...whine...and gripe...and whine...and see if anyone
>really cares.

What do you get if you take the letters BBB and slice off the
top curvy parts ?????

>
>

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2006-03-26, 12:21 am

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:25:14 -0500, "CAVHBC" <biteme@fuckoff.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> What do you get if you take the letters BBB and slice off the
> top curvy parts ?????

bbb?

People like the OP are put on Earth to make the others seem sane.

Richard Perry

HeatingGuide

2006-03-26, 6:21 am

Coils are often not "centered" in replacement or new installations and
there is typically about a 2 inch area on each side of the coil base
that does not necessarily have to be in the air stream. This will not
effect the efficiency of the unit. What will effect the efficiency of
the coil is if all the air is not deverted through the coil? This is
often a sore spot with poor installations, I have seen many coils
installed with only a rail for the coil to set on. I like to make up
and use a coil pan (sheet metal) This is cut to the inside dim. of your
plenum and has a hole cut to the size of the bottom of the coil, we
also mark the hole to allow a 1 inch fold up into the coil.

A new plenum may have been an answer, but when the cost is added in for
the additional labor and material, many choose not to have it done.

I'd think you'd do more good to spead your dissatisfaction to your
neighbors, then to the BBB. Without seeing the job, it's hard to say,
poor work or too high of "quality" expections for what you decided on
spending. Why did you choose this particular contractor? Did you price
shop? Many customers choose the lowest cost contractor and then are not
satisfied with the quality of the job? Did you ask for refferences? How
long in the business?

www.HeatingGuide.com (A new directory where contractors can tell their
stories and show off their work)

Puddin' Man

2006-03-26, 12:21 pm

On 26 Mar 2006 02:16:10 -0800, "HeatingGuide" <bud@heatingguide.com>
wrote:

>Coils are often not "centered" in replacement or new installations and
>there is typically about a 2 inch area on each side of the coil base
>that does not necessarily have to be in the air stream.

A "matching CASED A-coil" unit?

>This will not
>effect the efficiency of the unit. What will effect the efficiency of
>the coil is if all the air is not deverted through the coil? This is
>often a sore spot with poor installations, I have seen many coils
>installed with only a rail for the coil to set on. I like to make up
>and use a coil pan (sheet metal) This is cut to the inside dim. of your
>plenum and has a hole cut to the size of the bottom of the coil, we
>also mark the hole to allow a 1 inch fold up into the coil.
>
>A new plenum may have been an answer, but when the cost is added in for
>the additional labor and material, many choose not to have it done.

Per the original post, the new plenum was made/installed.
It connects to the *top* of the matching CASED A-coil unit
and the old ductwork very nicely. Its the mating to the
furnace thats off.

>I'd think you'd do more good to spead your dissatisfaction to your
>neighbors,

Neighbors? Beat me on that one.

>then to the BBB. Without seeing the job, it's hard to say,
>poor work or too high of "quality" expections for what you decided on
>spending. Why did you choose this particular contractor?

No BBB complaints in 3 years. Implied emphasis on quality
install. Price. 2 years labor.

>Did you price
>shop?

Yes.

>Many customers choose the lowest cost contractor and then are not
>satisfied with the quality of the job? Did you ask for refferences? How
>long in the business?

Since something like 1950. Very sizable shop, commercial and
residential.

Puddin'

geoman jr

2006-03-26, 9:21 pm

"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
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> bbb?

666 maybe---ohh ,do I get a discount on my 2006 minion card?? :-)))

> People like the OP are put on Earth to make the others seem sane.
>
> Richard Perry
>
>
>
>
>
>

.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2006-03-26, 11:21 pm

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:50:05 -0500, "geoman jr" <mwalk2@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:XemdncU5wqhLjbvZ4p2dnA@centurytel.net...
>
>666 maybe---ohh ,do I get a discount on my 2006 minion card?? :-)))

Yes, you do !!! 10 % !!!!

BTW, dues have gone up 20 %.

So, send only a mere 110 % of what you sent for your card last
year :-)

>
>

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Oscar_Lives

2006-03-28, 1:21 am

<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, you do !!! 10 % !!!!
>
> BTW, dues have gone up 20 %.
>
> So, send only a mere 110 % of what you sent for your card last
> year :-)

Fucking dues go up every year. When are benefits going up?

.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2006-03-28, 7:21 am

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:35:33 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" <nospam@nospam.net>
wrote:

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><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:dlje22dil8docsa04qrmgu6it5tpb3ilch@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>Fucking dues go up every year. When are benefits going up?
>

Are you SURE you want to know ????

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Tekkie®

2006-03-28, 10:21 pm

Oscar_Lives posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

>
> <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> news:dlje22dil8docsa04qrmgu6it5tpb3ilch@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> Fucking dues go up every year. When are benefits going up?
>
>
>
You answered your own question - the benefit of dues going up.
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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2006-03-28, 11:21 pm

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:28:54 -0500, Tekkie® <Tekkie@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Oscar_Lives posted for all of us...
> I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
>
>You answered your own question - the benefit of dues going up.

Yes. Exactly. So send money.

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