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| Ken S. Tucker 2005-10-16, 9:21 pm |
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Don wrote:
> Waterfall - Fireplace
> http://www.hearthfalls.com/
Interesting, what about back lighting Niagara
Falls at night. Last I saw they got cheezy
colored spot lights shining on them.
Hey play a little music and turn the whole
darn thing into a color organ, every few minutes.
"Rain drops keep fallin on my head".
Ken
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| Pierre Levesque, AIA 2005-10-17, 12:21 am |
| Admitedly, I haven't snooped the site but I can smell the gas already...
"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
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> Waterfall - Fireplace
> http://www.hearthfalls.com/
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| "Ken S. Tucker"> wrote
> darn thing into a color organ,
A very elusive device these days.
I found one awhile back and its sitting on top of one of my HPM-100's right
now.
(a lava lamp is on another HPM-100, for a total of 23 *specialty* lamps
going in my office right now.
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| Kris Krieger 2005-10-17, 4:21 pm |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
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> Waterfall - Fireplace
> http://www.hearthfalls.com/
Personal take - it doesn't appeal to me much at all. In my personal
opinion, the traditional fireplace format is totally incongruous with the
unusual nature of the idea. I realize they're looking at retrofits, but so
what...the retrofits looke to me like, well, something new stuck on over
something old so that both detract equally from each other.
I'd be intereted in seeing a totally new design for the idea.
But that's just me, FWIW...
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| Kris Krieger wrote:
> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
> news:y4A4f.15875$QE1.2930@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
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> Personal take - it doesn't appeal to me much at all. In my personal
> opinion, the traditional fireplace format is totally incongruous with the
> unusual nature of the idea. I realize they're looking at retrofits, but so
> what...the retrofits looke to me like, well, something new stuck on over
> something old so that both detract equally from each other.
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> I'd be intereted in seeing a totally new design for the idea.
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> But that's just me, FWIW...
Maybe if they combined the idea with this somehow:
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archiv..._fire_from.html
or
http://www.heatnglo.com/products/fi.../aqueonhome.asp
--
Edgar
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| Kris Krieger 2005-10-17, 9:21 pm |
| Edgar <ecamacho4@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Kris Krieger wrote:
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> Maybe if they combined the idea with this somehow:
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> http://www.makezine.com/blog/archiv..._fire_from.html
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> or
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> http://www.heatnglo.com/products/fi.../aqueonhome.asp
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That's something different, yup.
But the typical average common traditional wall-fireplace thing just
doesn't cut it for me - of course, I don;t like them in general. Have
lived in several places that had them, and mostly they're just a big pain
in the patoot. So the inserts also don't do anything much for me.
Odd that this came up because, for the past couple weeks, I've been mulling
over the idea of combining some sort of fountain/lightsource thing to stick
in front of the fireplace - but I'm making a decorative screen first; the
structure is a semi-circle but the inside of the fireplace itself is a
wreck and looks crappy - it's only a rental and I'm not going to pay to fix
up this guy's house but it's a shame, because it's actually kind of a cool
fireplace, very unusual. The point is that even something like that could
be interesting if adapted, because it's already unsual, and IMO would be
more in keeping with the waterfall-fireplace idea.
Along the lines of the image at the website you linked to, I generally have
a liking for flame/leaf shapes of various height/width combinations, so I
was thinking of a "structure within a structure" or a larger one that, sort
of shell-like, decurved into itself. I was thinking it'd be cool to have
water come out of the edges of the larger/outer leaflike/flamelike shape
and sheet down past the inner structure, which would have candels or mini-
oil-lamps (a.k.a. "liquid candles") inside. I was also thinking of molding
little low-voltage LED holiday lights into the clay.
Anywhoo, yeah, that general idea, something more sculptural.
OTOH traditional always seems to sell so there ya go. I was looking at the
local real estate site a little while ago and found an interesting
contemporary style house - and all the stuff inside was ultra-traditional
curlieque-froufrou style stuff. So even if the surrounds are contemporary,
people just go nuts for traditional, and if that's what sells the most,
that's what'll get made and what will be offered - if you want something
different, you'll either have to pay many thousands for an original work -
or just make your own piece.
So, unfortunately, if they do make something that's more unusual, it'll
probably be only an occasional deal and will probably cost as much as a
car...
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| Lanze 2005-10-18, 12:21 am |
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> So, unfortunately, if they do make something that's more unusual, it'll
> probably be only an occasional deal and will probably cost as much as a
> car...
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>I like some of the ideas here and I do specialize in Fireplace Mantels.
>Lately I've been entertaining like ideas as shown here but I do find that
>Candles can offer a inexpensive solution while creating the ambiance for
>that special moment.
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| Kris Krieger 2005-10-18, 7:21 pm |
| "Lanze" <romanze@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>I like some of the ideas here and I do specialize in Fireplace
>Mantels. Lately I've been entertaining like ideas as shown here but I
>do find that Candles can offer a inexpensive solution while creating
>the ambiance for that special moment.
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Do you do "stand alone" fireplaces as well, or other shapes? Just curious.
It seems like there could be a lot of attractive options.
Candles or those "mini-oil-lamp" things called Liquid Candles are good
because they don't "burn down" and sputter and flare as do wax candles -
the even burn is nice, especially in lanterns and whatnot, and the flame
will stay the same size, in accordance with the length you give the wick.
THey also don't leave soot the way wax candles do.
On a candle-sized scale, a "fire-fountain" should be do-able without too
much problem. Design is always the tricky part. One could also add glass
droplets, "jewels" (fecetted shapes), bevels, or small pieces available in
any decent stained-glass shop (and some craft shops). Both air-dry and
oven-dry clay is available and can be sealed, or you could model the thing
on top of a glazed garden-pot catch dish. Could use flexible Aquaroium
hose that will bend into various shapes. Or convert available items such
as large garden-pottery, garden urns, and the like. A nice glazed pot
should look nice indoors or out. And that'd cost less than having
something custom made from scratch.
Of course, good stonework and good metalwork are always gorgeous when one
can affor them (or know how to do that).
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> Do you do "stand alone" fireplaces as well, or other shapes? Just
> curious.
> It seems like there could be a lot of attractive options.
Yes Kris, we do stand alone fireplaces. Your imagination is our
challenge as we say, along with contempory and period style pieces. You've
mentioned some great ideas that are relatively inexpensive and in this $1.98
world this goes a long way. Still, these waterfall ones are something I've
inquired about with thanks to the original poster Don. Its all smoke and
mirrors, lol.............
Good Design/Workmanship with metal/stone wood etc., seems to be way to make
customers happy. Our customers demand and expect it. In my 25 yrs in the
cabinet industry I've seen customers get picky but not as much as when we
started into Fireplace Mantels. They must be impeccable!!! or you don't get
paid.
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| Kris Krieger 2005-10-19, 1:21 pm |
| "Lanze" <romanze@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Yes Kris, we do stand alone fireplaces. Your imagination is our
> challenge as we say, along with contempory and period style pieces.
> You've mentioned some great ideas that are relatively inexpensive and
> in this $1.98 world this goes a long way. Still, these waterfall ones
> are something I've inquired about with thanks to the original poster
> Don. Its all smoke and mirrors, lol.............
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> Good Design/Workmanship with metal/stone wood etc., seems to be way
> to make
> customers happy. Our customers demand and expect it. In my 25 yrs in
> the cabinet industry I've seen customers get picky but not as much as
> when we started into Fireplace Mantels. They must be impeccable!!! or
> you don't get paid.
That makes sense, because the feeling of "the hearth is the heart of the
home" seems to be ancient and ingrained in human nature. The hearth is
also a major/primary focal point, so it has to be done right since glitches
stick out like a sore thumb...
If you have a website, could you post the URL? I'm trying to keep files of
the good info I get here.
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Hi Kris, www.blairscarpentry.com will have some updates very soon,
thanks, Blair ...alias Lanze
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> If you have a website, could you post the URL? I'm trying to keep files
> of
> the good info I get here.
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| Kris Krieger 2005-10-19, 2:21 pm |
| "Lanze" <romanze@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> www.blairscarpentry.com
Thanks! That corner unit on the home page is really nice. We had a corner
one in the Massachusetts house - I liked the idea but the way they did it
was bad; I'd been thinking of something like the white corner unit with
shelves shown in your gallery (the house was basically Colonial in
type)...food for thought ;)
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| "Kris Krieger"> wrote
> "Lanze"> wrote
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> Thanks! That corner unit on the home page is really nice. We had a
> corner
> one in the Massachusetts house - I liked the idea but the way they did it
> was bad; I'd been thinking of something like the white corner unit with
> shelves shown in your gallery (the house was basically Colonial in
> type)...food for thought ;)
Lemme piggy back here.
Hey Blair, real nice stuff, and you've been doing it for awhile I see.
My brother is breaking into that field right now, custom fireplace
surrounds, entertainment centers, crown, columns, 1/2 walls, etc.
I'm thinking about doing something similar.
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks Don, (note to the bro) make sure he follows all the fire and gas
codes. I've been working with the local gas company here for 15 yrs and have
found out that insurance companies will look for any loop hole should and
incident occur. I can't stress this fact enough. Zero clearance to
combustibles in gas fired units is not what you may think. These codes can
challenge many newer designs so therefore I'd advise adhering to the
manufacturers specs of each gas unit or the fire code with open hearth
fireplaces. Main concerns being the overhang above the frieze area. I've
refused a few jobs simply because the client did not want to comply or
compromise their design. Ultimately the designer/craftsman becomes liable.
Perhaps in your spare time you could design us a cad program with
all this info contained just for mantels and cabinet surrounds?
LOL........Unfortunately there's not one available yet to my knowledge and
I'm grinding out mine the old way. Cheers
> Lemme piggy back here.
> Hey Blair, real nice stuff, and you've been doing it for awhile I see.
> My brother is breaking into that field right now, custom fireplace
> surrounds, entertainment centers, crown, columns, 1/2 walls, etc.
> I'm thinking about doing something similar.
> Keep up the good work!
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