| Ken S. Tucker 2005-12-27, 4:21 pm |
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cegan@egan-martinez.com wrote:
> Hey, Ken....chilll a bit....
>
> Your post is arguing against all kinds of things....but not with
> anything I wrote.
>
> For the record, I don't consider myself particularly "religious" but
> neither do I think it's a bad thing when humans try to look for wisdom.
> Much of philosophy and science have been driven for centuries by
> curiosity and a desire to understand. I think that's a good thing. I
> also think that some humans have looked for wisdom in the realms of
> spirit and art. Some of what we find in Lao Tzu is deeply
> insightful....also much of what we find in native American attitudes
> towards the earth and nature. I personally don't feel terribly
> interested in organized religion....but I am not so arrogant to think
> that I am the only human with all the answers....for which reason I
> tend to listen respectfully when someone tells me of their own search
> for wisdom and insight. I don't make fun of historians who offer
> fragments of what may have actually occurred....because from these
> fragments I may be able to piece together a larger piece of the puzzle
> we call life. Equally I don't make fun of the deeply felt beliefs of
> people whose thoughts contain pieces of what may resemble truth. On
> the other hand, I don't think much of those who present themselves as
> the sole carrier of "TRUTH" or who pretend to speak for something
> called "God". As I always warn my students...whenever they are
> confronted by orthodoxy of any kind....when anyone asks them to turn
> off their brains and accept ANYTHING on faith....then they should be
> very careful....there is usually a charlatan at work.
>
> So....if you want to argue about the sins of Christianity and other
> religions...that's fine....but it's another thread. In my post I did
> not espouse religion....nor did I say anything about divinity or God.
> I simply wanted to remind the group that some things deserve
> respect....and I think that the actual words of Christ are among the
> words in human history that offer insight and wisdom. Those who built
> religious institutions in his name are another topic.
>
> Whether this clarifies it for you depends on your willingness to read
> what I wrote instead of what you thought you read.
> Respectfully....
> Christopher
Studied your post, and didn't interrupt, let me criticize,
by specifically quoting your essay, this is the polite
version...
Chris wrote, "the actual words of Christ"
There is NO EVIDENCE Jesus Christ existed, there are no
"actual words". The 2nd testament is "hear say" purveyed
by rumors (through numerous translations) supposedly written
by characters whose "testimony" includes "miracles"
impossible in the Laws of Nature, that appears to be self-
aggrandizing and thus of nil credibility, and believing that
whole program is an enormous self-perpetuating brainwashing,
the weak-minded (Christians) have been forced into believing
by the surrender of their own trust in morality, empathy and
common sense, as is historically proven, by atrocities.
I'll improve on the JC concept...
Historically, it appears A SOCIAL CONSCIENCE was
evolving within the Roman Empire slowly but spontaneously
as would be natural in a society realizing greater profit and
an improved conscience by recognizing more equalities and
rights.
You can totally eliminate JC as something special and
other deities and replace all that crap with Aesop's Fables,
and nourish the sense of empathy and sympathy we
normally have by instinct, (hell that might have helped
Jeffrey Dahlmer and his type).
Jesus freaks and bible thumper's diminish that social
human instinct, like Catholics who sin, confess, clear
their conscience and turn around and repeat the sin.
Does that explain my remark about cross relocation?
Regards
Ken S. Tucker
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