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| per.corell@privat.dk 2005-09-24, 6:21 pm |
| Hi
Don barges are not the only smarter way to block the levees , compared
the dameages a small fleet of combined rescue , shallow draft rugid
build modern crafts, seem to be a good future investment , even these
would end up as sandbag replacement in a future storm.
Now I provide a splendid design, that is build in a new method and
offer a dynamic design --- you could even specialy design cheap powered
steel hulls to be stored in dangered arears, ready to use as first
rescue then landfill and --- build as cheap as I promise, would that
realy be a great lose , case say 25 of these, temp. or permament could
stop the flood.
Realy this 3D-H also provide this ;
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tsunami-Longboat/
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| RicodJour 2005-09-25, 2:21 am |
| per.corell@privat.dk wrote:
> Hi
>
> Don barges are not the only smarter way to block the levees , compared
> the dameages a small fleet of combined rescue , shallow draft rugid
> build modern crafts, seem to be a good future investment , even these
> would end up as sandbag replacement in a future storm.
> Now I provide a splendid design, that is build in a new method and
> offer a dynamic design --- you could even specialy design cheap powered
> steel hulls to be stored in dangered arears, ready to use as first
> rescue then landfill and --- build as cheap as I promise, would that
> realy be a great lose , case say 25 of these, temp. or permament could
> stop the flood.
> Realy this 3D-H also provide this ;
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tsunami-Longboat/
How do you manuever these barges to the broken levees? The levees are
not always in easily navigable waters! They're often heavily populated
areas with houses, power lines, submerged vehicles, etc. in the way.
The barges would have to be on the "dry" side of the levee unless
you're planning on dragging that barge up a waterfall.
Rework, resubmit.
R
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| RicodJour 2005-09-25, 11:21 am |
| per.corell@privat.dk wrote:
>
> Don barges are not the only smarter way to block the levees , compared
> the dameages a small fleet of combined rescue , shallow draft rugid
> build modern crafts, seem to be a good future investment , even these
> would end up as sandbag replacement in a future storm.
> Now I provide a splendid design, that is build in a new method and
> offer a dynamic design --- you could even specialy design cheap powered
> steel hulls to be stored in dangered arears, ready to use as first
> rescue then landfill and --- build as cheap as I promise, would that
> realy be a great lose , case say 25 of these, temp. or permament could
> stop the flood.
> Realy this 3D-H also provide this ;
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tsunami-Longboat/
1). How do you tow the barges into place? You're fighting a swift
current and the surrounding water may only be a few feet deep.
2). How do those hydrodynamically designed hulls fit together to stop
all water flow? Sand bags conform to an opening. Your "rugid" hulls
won't.
3). Where do you store these things when not being used?
R
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| zenboom 2005-09-25, 12:21 pm |
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:1127624259.269340.10800@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> per.corell@privat.dk wrote:
>
> How do you manuever these barges to the broken levees? The levees are
> not always in easily navigable waters! They're often heavily populated
> areas with houses, power lines, submerged vehicles, etc. in the way.
> The barges would have to be on the "dry" side of the levee unless
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> you're planning on dragging that barge up a waterfall.
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> Rework, resubmit.
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| "RicodJour"> wrote
> per> wrote:
>
> 1). How do you tow the barges into place? You're fighting a swift
> current and the surrounding water may only be a few feet deep.
>
> 2). How do those hydrodynamically designed hulls fit together to stop
> all water flow? Sand bags conform to an opening. Your "rugid" hulls
> won't.
>
> 3). Where do you store these things when not being used?
4) How much do they cost?
5) How many are required for your standard levy breach?
7) If all the metal in the barge suddenly assumed its original shape, what
then?
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| per.corell@privat.dk 2005-09-25, 4:21 pm |
| Hi
First you can be sure that a honeycomb framework, sealed with a panel,
will be the strongest structure possible ---- it is all about how much
framework then you can even profit from the flexibility if you find the
right ampunt of frames , as in all shipshulls.
First of all any structure shuld not be made to stiff anyway but, take
my word that these hulls can be produced any design , as a thick shell
of intergrated frames, and it will produce just the shape as you design
them.
Don I promote a smart ,different and cheap new way.
They ofcaurse must be build rugid, but the double panels securing the
framework cubes acturly make a structure , that can hold even tossed
around , this all depend what sixe you make them --- you could make
them last 200 years, please they just need to be stand by. Or you can
combine these with the use of flexible boating, you anyway want , when
there are waters around but, they only show how cheap, you can produce
just any structure ---- well if strong enough for a shop, don't you
then think it would be strong enough for a house ????
------- About other savings think about that to produce these hulls and
even houses, you don't anymore need 100 different materials , but just
one, sheet material.
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| per.corell@privat.dk 2005-09-25, 5:21 pm |
| Now Don if this could make you realise that a honeycomb framework are
perfect when the exact panel are unrolled from the same form that
produced the exact sections, and welded onto the frames, just as ships
allway's was welded together, --- if it is about suggesting just a way
that will make you realise , how much a direct-Link method work,
compared today's lazy architect applications and old-fasion way's ----
if you want to give the new a chance.
Then what was wrong firing up some of these old hoover-crafts , use
them as sandbag replacement , how few huge worn out hoover crafts would
be needed, and they can sail anywhere.
Well if that was an idear you didn't think about, please give a new
technike a chance.
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| per.corell@privat.dk 2005-09-25, 5:21 pm |
| Don what you need if you want a rescure boat is a fast manovered rugid
poverfull vessel, one that litteraly can't be broken but carry a huge
diesel or two, water jets and shallow draft, an open aft deck to do the
service and lots of powers.
Go to the link and check out a design that is more than that, one that
even would make a sailboat, with a dropkeel and a simple rig --- but
build like that, you would have had a vessel that could be made so it
could have passed the leeve at full speed, and be left to prevent the
flooding , salveaged and in use again easy, unbreakable and safe.
------ You romans think danes can't design boats, can't come up with
bright idears ;))
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| per> wrote
> Well if that was an idear you didn't think about, please give a new
> technike a chance.
Hot air ballons.
Thats right, hot air balloons.
1000' diameter x 1000' tall with a 1000 ton lifting capacity.
It'll come to ya.
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| <per.corell> wrote
> ------ You romans think danes can't design boats, can't come up with
> bright idears ;))
Why do you always say that stuff?
Specifically, why do you always say that stuff to me?
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| per.corell@privat.dk 2005-09-25, 7:21 pm |
| Don this tread have the potential of bringing some idear that at first
can seem wierd but only as it is new and untested , now please
understand the irony when I refere "the romans", it's rather a way of
speach a sort of joke , for me "the romans" are not you but the silli
conservatism that make it difficult for new idears , that's not you.
But please know that the suggestions I put forth, acturly would work
and it is just suggestions to make things better.
Then you know my pony ,the structural method I progress, well it was
develobed to bring nice boat designs, making the difficult part the
ribs and creating the framework the easy part. This system is so
different from the tradisional boatsbuilding but Don -- the old way
where ribs stand alone and just swing in the air, work so much weaker,
than my system, that can create double frames and the perfect
structure, to place ships plates on, -- I just have this thing about
Romans, they are the ones I allway's blame not you.
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| per.corell> wrote
> Don this tread have the potential of bringing some idear that at first
> can seem wierd but only as it is new and untested ,
So?
The wierder the better.
now please
> understand the irony when I refere "the romans", it's rather a way of
> speach a sort of joke , for me "the romans" are not you but the silli
> conservatism that make it difficult for new idears ,
> that's not you.
^^^^^^^^^^^
<shwew>
Thought I was gonna hafta keeya there for a second.... ;-)
> But please know that the suggestions I put forth, acturly would work
> and it is just suggestions to make things better.
*would* is a pretty BIG word in the context you're using it.
Presume for a moment that I'm from Missouri, if you know what I mean.
> Then you know my pony ,the structural method I progress, well it was
> develobed to bring nice boat designs, making the difficult part the
> ribs and creating the framework the easy part. This system is so
> different from the tradisional boatsbuilding but Don -- the old way
> where ribs stand alone and just swing in the air, work so much weaker,
> than my system, that can create double frames and the perfect
> structure, to place ships plates on,
Yeah, I know.
But what are you gonna do about it?
-- I just have this thing about
> Romans, they are the ones I allway's blame not you.
I'm relieved.
Do you eat seafood more than 3 times a week?
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