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| Hello,
Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
activated by rushing water?
Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
now, and later i can rebuild the basement.
I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
sump pump.
This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
that i can install an automatic, sump pump.
I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
rooms of the basement.
Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
Pinky anyway (:
Truly
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Harry wrote:
> Hello,
> Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
> activated by rushing water?
> Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
> time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
> want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
> is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
> make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
> problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
> a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
> acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
> duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
> now, and later i can rebuild the basement.
>
> I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
> holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
> few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
> the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
> only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
> wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
> cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
> with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
> about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
> does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
> case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
> sump pump.
>
> This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
> well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
> pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
> on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
> The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
> i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
> day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
> that i can install an automatic, sump pump.
>
> I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
> donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
> trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
> started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
> corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
> other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
> continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
> scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
> before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
> and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
> keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
> rooms of the basement.
>
> Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
> the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
> likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
> dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
> watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
> splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
> spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
> iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
> she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
> Pinky anyway (:
>
> Truly
I'm not sure that I follow the description of your problem 100%, but I
think I know the answer. Go to any home center or good hardware store
and get "hydraulic cement". Just ask for it, they'll point you in the
right direction. It is a very quick drying cement that will dry in wet
conditions, even under water. Just mix with water, plug the hole, and
hold in place. Might not look good of 1st effort but add some more
later to smooth it out when you're done.
Good luck.
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Harry wrote:
> Hello,
> Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
> activated by rushing water?
post snipped.
This post is really confusing, but i think i understand. you have a
leak in your basement and would like to plug the leak, but you also
want to keep the leak so you can water your pets with a sump pump
arangement.
First, I'd compeletly plug the leak, hydraulic cement should do, and
can be found in most hardware stores.
second, drill a hole in your basement wall andstick a pipe in the hole,
sealed with hydraulic cement, to allow you to have a spigot.
also, the leak you describe might be called a seep.
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| tbasc@bellsouth.net 2006-10-01, 9:25 am |
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Tater wrote:
> Harry wrote:
>
>
> post snipped.
>
> This post is really confusing, but i think i understand. you have a
> leak in your basement and would like to plug the leak, but you also
> want to keep the leak so you can water your pets with a sump pump
> arangement.
>
> First, I'd compeletly plug the leak, hydraulic cement should do, and
> can be found in most hardware stores.
>
> second, drill a hole in your basement wall andstick a pipe in the hole,
> sealed with hydraulic cement, to allow you to have a spigot.
>
> also, the leak you describe might be called a seep.
O.P. should have water tested before feeding pets.
TB
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| Do what the cat tells you to do.
It is only by her grace that you are allowed to live there. ;-)
Seriously, be concerned with contaminents and minerals in the water.
Cats are suceptable to *crystals* in their kidneys and bladders.
Very painful, expensive and can kill the cat.
"Harry" <paminifarm3@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1159669606.926588.101210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
> Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
> activated by rushing water?
> Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
> time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
> want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
> is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
> make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
> problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
> a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
> acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
> duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
> now, and later i can rebuild the basement.
>
> I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
> holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
> few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
> the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
> only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
> wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
> cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
> with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
> about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
> does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
> case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
> sump pump.
>
> This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
> well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
> pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
> on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
> The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
> i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
> day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
> that i can install an automatic, sump pump.
>
> I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
> donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
> trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
> started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
> corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
> other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
> continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
> scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
> before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
> and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
> keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
> rooms of the basement.
>
> Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
> the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
> likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
> dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
> watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
> splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
> spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
> iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
> she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
> Pinky anyway (:
>
> Truly
>
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| "Tater"> wrote
> Harry wrote:
>
>
> post snipped.
>
> This post is really confusing, but i think i understand. you have a
> leak in your basement and would like to plug the leak, but you also
> want to keep the leak so you can water your pets with a sump pump
> arangement.
>
> First, I'd compeletly plug the leak, hydraulic cement should do, and
> can be found in most hardware stores.
>
> second, drill a hole in your basement wall andstick a pipe in the hole,
> sealed with hydraulic cement, to allow you to have a spigot.
>
> also, the leak you describe might be called a seep.
Isn't the leak symptomatic of another problem?
In other words, if he plugs the leak, it will just reappear elsewhere?
Off the top of my skall it seems that altering the source of where the water
intrusion intersects the basement wall, ie., drains (perforated pipes) will
cause the water to go elsewhere than the wall?
Thats what they did on my house and it seems to keep the inside dry....so
far.
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Harry wrote:
> Hello,
> Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
> activated by rushing water?
> Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
> time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
> want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
> is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
> make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
> problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
> a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
> acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
> duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
> now, and later i can rebuild the basement.
>
> I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
> holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
> few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
> the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
> only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
> wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
> cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
> with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
> about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
> does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
> case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
> sump pump.
>
> This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
> well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
> pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
> on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
> The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
> i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
> day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
> that i can install an automatic, sump pump.
>
> I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
> donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
> trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
> started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
> corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
> other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
> continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
> scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
> before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
> and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
> keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
> rooms of the basement.
>
> Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
> the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
> likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
> dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
> watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
> splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
> spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
> iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
> she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
> Pinky anyway (:
>
> Truly
Harry
Once you have the water plugged, you'll still probably have a wet
basement. So you and your husband should take a couple of weekend and
paint the walls with Drylok. It's a bit bit thick so it's harder to
use than paint, but not too bad. When you go to the home center or
hardware store, pick up a few gallons. You don't get much coverage
per gallon, but it's worth it.
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Pat wrote:
> Harry wrote:
>
> Harry
>
> Once you have the water plugged, you'll still probably have a wet
> basement. So you and your husband should take a couple of weekend and
> paint the walls with Drylok. It's a bit bit thick so it's harder to
> use than paint, but not too bad. When you go to the home center or
> hardware store, pick up a few gallons. You don't get much coverage
> per gallon, but it's worth it.
>
>
Hello,
I did already, try to sort of "plug" the leak and all it seemd to want
do was walk up the outside of the wall and want to come in from higher
up on the wall, so i gave up the idea of "plugging" for a while,
because iamnot, unless forced, into waterfalls. Iwill be fixing it
right some day, but for now i need a quick fix, and a "plug" isnot it.
I need a cement or glue that will work to hold the first layers of
brick (whatever) to the cement, basement floor to build the "well".
Would that "DryLock" stuff work?
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Don wrote:
> "Tater"> wrote
>
> Isn't the leak symptomatic of another problem?
> In other words, if he plugs the leak, it will just reappear elsewhere?
> Off the top of my skall it seems that altering the source of where the wa=
ter
> intrusion intersects the basement wall, ie., drains (perforated pipes) wi=
ll
> cause the water to go elsewhere than the wall?
> Thats what they did on my house and it seems to keep the inside dry....so
> far.
>
>
Hello,
=EF=BB=BFThere seems to be "soil" coming in with the "rushing" water,
so i doubt the perforations would last very long before they
became filled up with my lawn, but then perhaps i could just
plant shade-loving flowers or mushrooms in the =E2=80=9Cpipes=E2=80=9Dand
wa la a subterranean garden; then i could use the water to
water, not only the cat and dog, but the garden too. Maybe
instead of =E2=80=9Cabove-ground well=E2=80=9D for an automatic, sump pump
i should be thinking sprinkler system . . . The reason i donot
want to hack open the basement floor for a sump pump is
because the problem is a lot more than what iam telling you
right now, so the quick-fix will free-up my time to start the
necessary work that will work and solve the problem. Also
The coal is in the way of everything right now, so it willnot
be until Spring (after the coal is all burned up) that i can do
anything of a real nature. We just moved into the house about
a month ago, so weare still in the thought process of which
way to turn . . . like sell . . . for example . . . or fresh-water,
indoor, swimming pool; and sell tickets?
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-01, 1:25 pm |
| "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in
news:1159672677.303447.98570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
[cross-posting removed]
>
> I'm not sure that I follow the description of your problem 100%, but I
> think I know the answer. Go to any home center or good hardware store
> and get "hydraulic cement". Just ask for it, they'll point you in the
> right direction. It is a very quick drying cement that will dry in
> wet conditions, even under water. Just mix with water, plug the hole,
> and hold in place. Might not look good of 1st effort but add some
> more later to smooth it out when you're done.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
Is that what I should use to build a small fountain?
My current idea is to stabilize some vertical large rocks (?schist? -
look like craggy micacious stones arranged in parallel layers or
"fibers" (sorry, I don't know the right term) - one type has a nearly
black base color and looks much like steel when the light hits it
sideways, also saw an aqua-green color, thinking of the "black" with
smoothly-rounded white "beach stone" to put into the center of the
"white garden" (white bloomers, white/silver foliage) part of the
garden-to-be.
Anyway, I'd like to have maximum exposure of the stone and just use
cement/concrete to stabilize the "stack" ((more like "organ pipe" sort
of arrangement") and have water running down the whole construct.
So is hydraulic cement good for that?
Thanks!
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"Harry" <paminifarm3@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1159716645.912363.13360@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Pat wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I did already, try to sort of "plug" the leak and all it seemd to want
> do was walk up the outside of the wall and want to come in from higher
> up on the wall, so i gave up the idea of "plugging" for a while,
> because iamnot, unless forced, into waterfalls. Iwill be fixing it
> right some day, but for now i need a quick fix, and a "plug" isnot it.
> I need a cement or glue that will work to hold the first layers of
> brick (whatever) to the cement, basement floor to build the "well".
> Would that "DryLock" stuff work?
>
If you put in a perforated pipe, it should be wrapped in a geotechnical
fabric that allows water through and blocks fines (dirt). The pipe should be
set in a crushed stone bed and surrounded by crushed stone, which should
have a geofabric separating it from the dirt above. Be sure to face the
perforations down, even though it sounds counterintuitive.
Another trick used in very wet commercial areas (water treatment plants,
sewage pump stations) is a 4" gutter around the edge sloping to a sump area
at one corner. Usually water in the gutter and sump, but the floor remains
dry.
When we had a house in a filled area of Boston, the basement got wet a few
hours after high tide. We installed the pipe as above under the floor
leading to a sump. Dry basement for 20 years.
BTW, my dogs and cat tell me that their saliva is far purer than Lysol ;-)
EDS
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Kris Krieger wrote:
> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in
> news:1159672677.303447.98570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> [snip]
> [cross-posting removed]
>
> Is that what I should use to build a small fountain?
>
> My current idea is to stabilize some vertical large rocks (?schist? -
> look like craggy micacious stones arranged in parallel layers or
> "fibers" (sorry, I don't know the right term) - one type has a nearly
> black base color and looks much like steel when the light hits it
> sideways, also saw an aqua-green color, thinking of the "black" with
> smoothly-rounded white "beach stone" to put into the center of the
> "white garden" (white bloomers, white/silver foliage) part of the
> garden-to-be.
>
> Anyway, I'd like to have maximum exposure of the stone and just use
> cement/concrete to stabilize the "stack" ((more like "organ pipe" sort
> of arrangement") and have water running down the whole construct.
>
> So is hydraulic cement good for that?
>
> Thanks!
I thought you were going to say "My John Deere has sprung a leak on the
line going to the backhoe. Would hydraulic concrete fix that?"
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-01, 5:25 pm |
| "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in
news:1159727067.771664.323100@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
> Kris Krieger wrote:
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>
> I thought you were going to say "My John Deere has sprung a leak on
the
> line going to the backhoe. Would hydraulic concrete fix that?"
>
>
<LOL!>
A backhoe barely can make it into my back yard <g!>
Nope, just wantto build a modest fountain for the yard (esp. if I can
find a stand-alone solar pump I can adapt).
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Kris Krieger wrote:
> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in
> news:1159727067.771664.323100@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
> but I
> store
> the
> hole,
> sort
> the
>
> <LOL!>
>
> A backhoe barely can make it into my back yard <g!>
>
> Nope, just wantto build a modest fountain for the yard (esp. if I can
> find a stand-alone solar pump I can adapt).
Don' t think you need hydraulic cement unless you are working in wet
conditions, need quick set, and need to hold back pressure. Otherwise
reg concrete is fine. But what do I know?
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Don wrote:
> Do what the cat tells you to do.
> It is only by her grace that you are allowed to live there. ;-)
>
> Seriously, be concerned with contaminents and minerals in the water.
> Cats are suceptable to *crystals* in their kidneys and bladders.
> Very painful, expensive and can kill the cat.
Besides, the minerals make the cat taste bad and you waste all your
good sauce on it. Better when it tastes like chicken, esp. General Tso
Chicken.
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>
>
> "Harry" <paminifarm3@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:1159669606.926588.101210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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Harry wrote:
> Pat wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I did already, try to sort of "plug" the leak and all it seemd to want
> do was walk up the outside of the wall and want to come in from higher
> up on the wall, so i gave up the idea of "plugging" for a while,
> because iamnot, unless forced, into waterfalls. Iwill be fixing it
> right some day, but for now i need a quick fix, and a "plug" isnot it.
> I need a cement or glue that will work to hold the first layers of
> brick (whatever) to the cement, basement floor to build the "well".
> Would that "DryLock" stuff work?
>
>
Hello,
Please excuse mistake. I meant to say "=EF=BB=BFHydraulic cement".
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| David J. Hughes 2006-10-01, 9:25 pm |
| Multi stage solution:
Water is coming in from outside.
Go outside the house and locate the spot above the seep in the basement
wall.
Rent a 4" auger, and dig a hole down 4' below the seep. Last few feet
of soil removed should be mud.
Insert a length (long enough to reach the bottom) of perforated pipe,
capped on the bottom, covered in the previously metioned cloth.
You now have a well!
Drop in a suction line, with a coarse strainer on the bottom, and attach
a suction pump on the surface.
Removing the water from the outside should allow you to seal the wall
inside. You will need to keep using the pump, so you might want to put
a float on the suction pipe rigged to turn the pump on when the water
starts to pool too high in the well.
Later, drill through the wall to install a pipe as previously suggested.
Chisel a 1" deep trough around where you want to build the sump well
inside the basement, and up the wall where you want it to go.
Build a plywood form for the walls, pour in hydraulic cement and allow
to dry for a week. Remove form, coat inside and out, including the
floor area, with Dryloc. Mount sump pump, and you're done!
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-02, 3:25 am |
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"Pat"
>
> Don wrote:
>
> Besides, the minerals make the cat taste bad and you waste all your
> good sauce on it. Better when it tastes like chicken, esp. General Tso
> Chicken.
>
Bear in mind, Pat, that this is a "cross-thread", so your post may not go
down well on alt.survival. ;)
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-02, 3:25 am |
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"Kris Krieger"
> "Pat"
>
> [snip]
> [cross-posting removed]
[glue]
[cross-posting partially re-established]
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| Gunner 2006-10-02, 3:25 am |
| On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:42:48 -0700, "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote:
>
>"Pat"
>Bear in mind, Pat, that this is a "cross-thread", so your post may not go
>down well on alt.survival. ;)
Why not? Cat..the other white meat.
Gunner, posting from alt.survival
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-02, 3:25 am |
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"Gunner" ...
> "Warm Worm"
>
> Why not? Cat..the other white meat.
There's a winkie there! Right at the end! Gunner! Quick! Fire! ;)
Ah, winkie's are slim pickings anyway. 
(BTW; I've always wanted to take a survival course that includes winter. I
saw that Survive-o-man tv show, but I think he might be cheating sometimes
[if with some good ideas].)
> Gunner, posting from alt.survival
alt.architecture here (drop by sometime)
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| "Harry" <paminifarm3@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1159669606.926588.101210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
> Can someone tell me where to find a water sealant that is
> activated by rushing water?
> Well not exactly white-water rapids, nor"rushing" all the
> time; sometimes it slows down. I would like to think of what i
> want to do as an above-ground swimming pool. What i mean
> is if they can make above-ground swimming pools, then i can
> make an above-ground well for a sump pump. The only
> problem is itis wet and moving water all the time (sort of like
> a spigot you cannot turn off - i think itis a spring, or at least it
> acts like one, so if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a
> duck, lets call it a duck anyway). All i want is a quick fix for
> now, and later i can rebuild the basement.
>
A bar of pure soap cut into thin strips and pressed over small holes/cracks
works a treat.
> I can get some of the floor area dried up to a dampness, while
> holding the moving water in a massive about of towels for a
> few minutes. At that point i would like to "glue" something to
> the floor to begin the building of the little wall of the well (i
> only need one, maybe two walls, depending how much of the
> wall-to-floor actually leaks ), bricks are easier to handle than
> cinder blocks so i guess that is what i want to build my well
> with - maybe i should use square-cut rocks? I may only need
> about less than a foot high, because i saw a sump pump that
> does from 1/8" up, however it maynot be automatic. In that
> case iwill have to go higher with my wall to accommodate the
> sump pump.
>
> This (so far) is only a few feet of space i will need for the
> well. Right now iam handling the mini flood with a "sponge"
> pump, set at the point where the water puddles at a low spot
> on the basement floor; this is then hosed to the floor drain.
> The puddling only amounts to about or less than 1/8' depth, so
> i have to go in there and turn on the "spunge" many times a
> day. That is why i would like to get more depth to the water so
> that i can install an automatic, sump pump.
>
> I know what youare thinking so iwill answer it right now: If i
> donot pump the water, through a hose, to the drain, the well-
> trained, little stream runs somewhat along 3 walls, having
> started at the first wall; very close to a corner; around the
> corner of a 3rd wall; to the room with the drain; back up the
> other side of the wall 3, about 3 or so feet from wall 3, and
> continues right on into the drain all by its cute, little 'ole self -
> scary to say the least . . . since it obediently puddles at wall 3
> before taking off for its trip around the wall to the other room,
> and back up the other side of the wall 3 to the drain, i like to
> keep it retained in that one room instead of letting it wet both
> rooms of the basement.
>
> Another thing about the above-ground thingy is the cat drinks
> the spring water, and i would like to train the dog to do
> likewise so that i donot have to be bothered with slimy water
> dishes all the time. The cat always used to demand to be
> watered at the sink from the faucet; then she would shake, and
> splash germs all over the sink area, then i would have to Lysol
> spray the sink area (What a mess of unnecessary activity), so
> iam very pleased she drinks from the spring. My husband said
> she is the first cat he ever saw walk on water, but i named her
> Pinky anyway (:
>
> Truly
>
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"Harry"> wrote
Don wrote:
> "Tater"> wrote
>
> Isn't the leak symptomatic of another problem?
> In other words, if he plugs the leak, it will just reappear elsewhere?
> Off the top of my skall it seems that altering the source of where the
> water
> intrusion intersects the basement wall, ie., drains (perforated pipes)
> will
> cause the water to go elsewhere than the wall?
> Thats what they did on my house and it seems to keep the inside dry....so
> far.
>
>
Hello,
?There seems to be "soil" coming in with the "rushing" water,
so i doubt the perforations would last very long before they
became filled up with my lawn, but then perhaps i could just
plant shade-loving flowers or mushrooms in the "pipes"and
wa la a subterranean garden; then i could use the water to
water, not only the cat and dog, but the garden too. Maybe
instead of "above-ground well" for an automatic, sump pump
i should be thinking sprinkler system . . . The reason i donot
want to hack open the basement floor for a sump pump is
because the problem is a lot more than what iam telling you
right now, so the quick-fix will free-up my time to start the
necessary work that will work and solve the problem. Also
The coal is in the way of everything right now, so it willnot
be until Spring (after the coal is all burned up) that i can do
anything of a real nature. We just moved into the house about
a month ago, so weare still in the thought process of which
way to turn . . . like sell . . . for example . . . or fresh-water,
indoor, swimming pool; and sell tickets?
I can empathize Harry, we just moved into this house about 5 months ago and
there are numerous issues to deal with here too.
Nothing quite as serious as you've described, but issues none the less, and
its getting cold here now too, so time is running out on getting stuff done.
What you're asking is a temporary fix for a permanent problem until spring
when you might address it fully and properly.
I'm a noob here in the great white north and cannot offer much help.
I'm still in learning mode......
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-02, 9:25 am |
| "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in
news:1159745312.321227.200820@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>
> Kris Krieger wrote:
[ ... ][color=darkred]
[snip][color=darkred]
>
> Don' t think you need hydraulic cement unless you are working in wet
> conditions, need quick set, and need to hold back pressure. Otherwise
> reg concrete is fine. But what do I know?
>
More than I do about this ;) Thanks for the info!
Maybe it was here (my short-term memory has always been spotty...)
(guess that means I'm a gecko-head... =:-o ) but I recently heard cement
described as a type of ceramic. The whole class is fascinating IMO.
For today, tho', gotta work on some JavaScript I've been trying to get
working.
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-02, 9:25 am |
| "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in news:1159745449.589980.79230
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> Don wrote:
>
> Besides, the minerals make the cat taste bad and you waste all your
> good sauce on it.
Heh...!
> Better when it tastes like chicken, esp. General Tso
> Chicken.
Oh great, you just HAD to say that.
There is a local place that makes a Gen. Tso's Chicken that I really like.
Now I'm getting a craving. And it's only 9AM...
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| Gunner 2006-10-02, 5:25 pm |
| On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:21:22 -0700, "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote:
>
>"Gunner" ...
>
>There's a winkie there! Right at the end! Gunner! Quick! Fire! ;)
>
>Ah, winkie's are slim pickings anyway.
>
>(BTW; I've always wanted to take a survival course that includes winter. I
>saw that Survive-o-man tv show, but I think he might be cheating sometimes
>[if with some good ideas].)
Ayup..he cheats a bit.
>
>
>alt.architecture here (drop by sometime)
Oddly enough..I run a cat rescue on the side, and do volunteer work for
several others. As a cat lover..its a joy. As a survivalist..I think of
it as a cat ranch...fatten em up for when its Hungry Time.
Pragmatism....the key to survival.
<G>
Gunner
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
news:1159710265.520338.194140@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Harry wrote:
>
> Harry
>
> Once you have the water plugged, you'll still probably have a wet
> basement. So you and your husband should take a couple of weekend and
> paint the walls with Drylok. It's a bit bit thick so it's harder to
> use than paint, but not too bad. When you go to the home center or
> hardware store, pick up a few gallons. You don't get much coverage
> per gallon, but it's worth it.
>
Water management is the way to a dry basement, not water proofing.
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| Just for you Gunner sorry Mike I had to add a post here,
www.evilbible.com enjoy Gunner.
Gunner wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:21:22 -0700, "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Ayup..he cheats a bit.
>
> Oddly enough..I run a cat rescue on the side, and do volunteer work for
> several others. As a cat lover..its a joy. As a survivalist..I think of
> it as a cat ranch...fatten em up for when its Hungry Time.
>
> Pragmatism....the key to survival.
>
> <G>
>
> Gunner
>
>
>
> "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
> the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
> - Proverbs 22:3
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| Gunner 2006-10-07, 1:25 pm |
| On 7 Oct 2006 02:12:13 -0700, "Tron" <tron37@gmail.com> wrote:
>Just for you Gunner sorry Mike I had to add a post here,
>www.evilbible.com enjoy Gunner.
[color=darkred]
'
Why do you think that piece of shit site would interest me? Im Buddhist.
"Atheism, just another faith based belief system"
Since you dont know shit about who, what, where or even who I am, why
did you think Id care to "enjoy" that particular bit of dreck?
Here Tron..just for you.
http://216.220.97.17/
Im sure you will "enjoy" it.
Gunner, off to take an caustic shower
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
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| """""interest me? Im Buddhist.
"Atheism, just another faith based belief system" """""
A Buddhist doesn't quote from the Bible, not a Christian Bible anyways.
And just for a fact a Buddhist believe in re-incarnation, not being
saved and sent to heaven or hell.
Gunner wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2006 02:12:13 -0700, "Tron" <tron37@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> '
> Why do you think that piece of shit site would interest me? Im Buddhist.
>
> "Atheism, just another faith based belief system"
>
>
> Since you dont know shit about who, what, where or even who I am, why
> did you think Id care to "enjoy" that particular bit of dreck?
>
> Here Tron..just for you.
>
> http://216.220.97.17/
>
> Im sure you will "enjoy" it.
>
>
> Gunner, off to take an caustic shower
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
> the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
> - Proverbs 22:3
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| Gunner 2006-10-07, 8:25 pm |
| On 7 Oct 2006 10:25:31 -0700, "Tron" <tron37@gmail.com> wrote:
>"""""interest me? Im Buddhist.
>
>"Atheism, just another faith based belief system" """""
>
>
>
>A Buddhist doesn't quote from the Bible, not a Christian Bible anyways.
>And just for a fact a Buddhist believe in re-incarnation, not being
>saved and sent to heaven or hell.
Correct. And please provide for me cites where Ive "quoted" from the
Bible in any other mode then in passing or as a data point in a
converstation? Frankly..Im not particularly familiar with the Bible. I
do know a few things about it, as I do the Koran, the Tibetian Book of
the Dead, The Book of Mormon and so forth.
Do you possibly have me confused with someone else, or are you simply
stupid?
Gunner
[color=darkred]
>Gunner wrote:
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
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