Architecture - Gawd Vernacular

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Gawd Vernacular

Warm Worm

2006-10-12, 5:25 pm

"Pat"
>
> Warm Worm wrote:
>
> I can't believe I'm asking this (and encouraging you) but just out of
> curiosity, people nurtured you own what? I'm not sure that sentence is
> quite finished.

Unsure it's proper sentence structure, but "my own" refers back in the
sentence to "knowledge, insight and take... and so forth...".

I've found myself with bits of additional knowledge or ideas that I'd
sometimes trace back to here, so I thought to give some credit where due.

I'll also add that the democracy on here is refreshing when I think about
it... Kudos to the admin (looks up into the sky, with arms stretched out)
.... wherever you are...

In my 10+ years online I've come across a myriad of little virtual
dictatorships replete with power-struggles, auto word-filters, the
religiously/PC zealous (ostensibly desperately sniffing for the smallest of
keywords to let their screams of bloody murder fly), admin "kids" with
control buttons and leaded-fingers, the killfile self-censorers, and others
who, it would seem, would "cut out the middleman" and have everyone grow a
genetically-engineered botanical garden directly out of their orifices.

Freedom and democracy seem rarer and more fragile than was once thought.

As my personal examples;

- I just had to re-register as a Panotools "Next-Generation* group-member
(Yahoo) due to some kind of recent power-struggle (which should still be
viewable in the archives) on the older one. Thankfully, I was not part of
it.

however...

- http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3506656
- http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3525749

To be fair to both Marc and myself, my priveleges have apparently been
subsequently reinstated since then.

> Gawd...

Indeed...
I will risk offence and lightheartedly pronounce that with a southern US
trailer-park vernacular.

Don

2006-10-13, 3:25 am

"Warm Worm"> wrote
> - http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3506656

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)

*********************************

A ghastly statement if there ever was one and the irony there is
overwhelmingly repulsive.
Hand me a shovel so that I might dig the revisionists up and strain their
remaining molecules.

I was born and raised (til age 11) in Gettysburg and all of my life I loved
that man and knew more about him than I did my own father.
Several years ago I was almost brought to my knees when I found verifiable
references to the lies that put that thread in my head.

I will never ever get over that, ever.

Cynical?
Not even close.
Webster has no words to describe the disgust I have in this country and the
rotten bastards that live there.

Pat

2006-10-13, 3:25 am

Warm Worm wrote:
> "Pat"
>
> Unsure it's proper sentence structure, but "my own" refers back in the
> sentence to "knowledge, insight and take... and so forth...".
>
> I've found myself with bits of additional knowledge or ideas that I'd
> sometimes trace back to here, so I thought to give some credit where due.

If the house falls down, I don't know you....

>
> I'll also add that the democracy on here is refreshing when I think about
> it... Kudos to the admin (looks up into the sky, with arms stretched out)
> ... wherever you are...

There's an admin????

>
> In my 10+ years online I've come across a myriad of little virtual
> dictatorships replete with power-struggles, auto word-filters, the
> religiously/PC zealous (ostensibly desperately sniffing for the smallest of
> keywords to let their screams of bloody murder fly), admin "kids" with
> control buttons and leaded-fingers, the killfile self-censorers, and others
> who, it would seem, would "cut out the middleman" and have everyone grow a
> genetically-engineered botanical garden directly out of their orifices.

Are you smoking something? Something genetically-engineered, maybe?

>
> Freedom and democracy seem rarer and more fragile than was once thought.
>
> As my personal examples;
>
> - I just had to re-register as a Panotools "Next-Generation* group-member
> (Yahoo) due to some kind of recent power-struggle (which should still be
> viewable in the archives) on the older one. Thankfully, I was not part of
> it.

>
> however...
>
> - http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3506656
> - http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3525749
>
>

But at sourceforge.net, at least you have open-source power struggles.
If you don't like the power stuggle there seems like you should be able
to tinker with it because it's open architecture, isn't it. Add a
threatening component here and a ranting function there ....

>
> To be fair to both Marc and myself, my priveleges have apparently been
> subsequently reinstated since then.
>
>
> Indeed...
> I will risk offence and lightheartedly pronounce that with a southern US
> trailer-park vernacular.

Actually, that's only one use of it. I grew up in an area with a fair
number of Jews. One weird trait I picked up is that one never writes
out "G_d". Don't know why, but Gawd is okay, G_d, G*d, etc, but not
.... you know.

Warm Worm

2006-10-13, 3:25 am

"Don"
> "Warm Worm"
>
> "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
> character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
>
> *********************************
>
> A ghastly statement if there ever was one and the irony there is
> overwhelmingly repulsive.
> Hand me a shovel so that I might dig the revisionists up and strain their
> remaining molecules.
>
> I was born and raised (til age 11) in Gettysburg and all of my life I
> loved that man and knew more about him than I did my own father.

I know very little about him, so his quote is offered out of context with
his actual actions or motivations.
The value is more in the quote itself.
Nevertheless, I undestand that people can make declarations that are in
direct contrast to their actual inner thoughts, feelings or behavior.

I suppose that reality, itself, is an illusion of sorts.

> Several years ago I was almost brought to my knees when I found verifiable
> references to the lies that put
> that thread in my head.

What would you like to tell me?

> Webster has no words to describe the disgust I have in this country and
> the rotten bastards that live there.
>

Perhaps there're forms of "natural selection" at work that favour, over the
*short* term, some kinds of entities/things (ie., "rottenness") over others,
but where the very aspects that make those entities rapidly reproduce and
thrive are exactly what invariably decimate them down the road.

Warm Worm

2006-10-13, 9:25 am

"Pat"
>
> Warm Worm wrote:
>
> If the house falls down, I don't know you....

They'd laugh my case right out of court.

>
> There's an admin????

I'm unsure, and unsure exactly how these NG's work.

>
> Are you smoking something? Something genetically-engineered, maybe?

In what regard? You don't mean to tell me that you're unaware of any of the
above?
As art imitates life, so does the net.

>
> But at sourceforge.net, at least you have open-source power struggles.
> If you don't like the power stuggle there seems like you should be able
> to tinker with it because it's open architecture, isn't it. Add a
> threatening component here and a ranting function there ....

Nothwithstanding your cool metaphor, the site in question is proprietary. If
it was open, it might function more like a wiki.

>
> Actually, that's only one use of it. I grew up in an area with a fair
> number of Jews. One weird trait I picked up is that one never writes
> out "G_d". Don't know why, but Gawd is okay, G_d, G*d, etc, but not
> ... you know.

Go on, spell it out.

Pat

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

Warm Worm wrote:
> "Pat"
>
> They'd laugh my case right out of court.
>
>
> I'm unsure, and unsure exactly how these NG's work.
>
>
> In what regard? You don't mean to tell me that you're unaware of any of the
> above?
> As art imitates life, so does the net.
>
>
> Nothwithstanding your cool metaphor, the site in question is proprietary. If
> it was open, it might function more like a wiki.
>
>
Go on, spell it out.

G
G - O
G - O -

I'm trying ....

G o

G_d

Nope, can't do it. Sorry.

Ken S. Tucker

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

Pat wrote:
> Warm Worm wrote:
> Go on, spell it out.

>
> G
> G - O
> G - O -
>
> I'm trying ....
>
> G o
>
> G_d
>
> Nope, can't do it. Sorry.

GDI = God Did It, to explain some strange thingy
phenonema, like 24" of snow falling on Buffalo NY
to set an all time October record on Friday the 13th.
Pat, was thinking about you this AM, news said
300,000 without power possibly to Monday.
Good Luck, hope all's well...
Ken

Kris Krieger

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:egmtng01fu3@news4.newsguy.com:

> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>
> "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
> character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
>
> *********************************
>
> A ghastly statement if there ever was one and the irony there is
> overwhelmingly repulsive.
> Hand me a shovel so that I might dig the revisionists up and strain
> their remaining molecules.
>
> I was born and raised (til age 11) in Gettysburg and all of my life I
> loved that man and knew more about him than I did my own father.
> Several years ago I was almost brought to my knees when I found
> verifiable references to the lies that put that thread in my head.
>
> I will never ever get over that, ever.
>
> Cynical?
> Not even close.
> Webster has no words to describe the disgust I have in this country
> and the rotten bastards that live there.
>

Huh...?

I must have missed something big-time...

But I do tend to agree about revisionism. It's one thing to find new
facts and re-analyze history. But simply rewriting it to fit personal
opinion/preference, or to judge it in accordance with current PC crap or
even what passes for current ethics, well, that is abhorrent and
disgusting and IMO a crime, maybe not legally, but morally and certainly
intellectually.

Kris Krieger

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in
news:1160712198.733754.164530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

[...]
>
> Actually, that's only one use of it. I grew up in an area with a fair
> number of Jews. One weird trait I picked up is that one never writes
> out "G_d". Don't know why, but Gawd is okay, G_d, G*d, etc, but not
> ... you know.
>

From what I've read and been told, the reason is that no word can encompass
the totality of the Creator, so writing G-d is done in deference to that.

HTH

Pat

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

gruhn

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

> Freedom and democracy seem rarer and more fragile than was once thought.

Freedom OR democracy. You get to choose one.

Pat

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

Ken S. Tucker wrote:
> Pat wrote:
>
> GDI = God Did It, to explain some strange thingy
> phenonema, like 24" of snow falling on Buffalo NY
> to set an all time October record on Friday the 13th.
> Pat, was thinking about you this AM, news said
> 300,000 without power possibly to Monday.
> Good Luck, hope all's well...
> Ken

Thanks for the concern. I put up a link to the weather radar
separately because I wanted to get it up quick. Once the storm is
done, it will reset. It shows how narrow the bands are and what got
hit. The got over 23" at the Buffalo airport but they handle it well.
At one point this morning, the airport was open but there was a driving
ban for the area around it.

They got hammered for 2 reasons. First, the leaves are on the trees.
So there are trees down everywhere. That's why the power is out. The
second reason it the Buffalo doesn't get that much snow. It's the area
to the south that gets hammered. Route 219 had permanent, wooden snow
fences along parts of it -- about 10' high.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/buf/lake...snowseason.html

Here's how localized the snow is.

Go to the F in BUF and look south to the 120. I am just south of that.

Storms are local and different. Here's what they looked like last
year.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/lakeffe...tormgallery.htm

Yes, they name the damn things. But that's just NWS. This one will be
called either the Blizzard of '06, The October Storm, or The Friday the
13th Storm. I like the last one the best.

They are saying this is the worst natural distaster in WNY history.

TV is reporting that some plow crews are carrying chainsaws to cut
their way down streets.

More local news at

www.wivb.com
www.wgrz.com
www.wkbw.com

All is pretty depressing.

I have a friend who flew up to Buffalo for a public hearing. He got
trapped. He got a hotel and has nothing with him except the suit he is
wearing. No boots. No coat. No gloves. No flight out. No
electricity in the hotel. No food because there is no electricity. No
luck at all. And his cell phone battery is dying.

But we are sunny and cold <brrrrr>. About 25F this morning. Tomorrow
it's be up to 50F and they are predicting widespread flooding in the
Buffalo area.

Again, thanks for the concern. Stay well. I've got the heat on and a
fresh pot of coffee. What else could I want?

Ken S. Tucker

2006-10-13, 1:25 pm

Pat wrote:
> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>
> I'm about 50 miles south. The weird thing about the weather in this
> area is it is VERY localized. LES bands have real defined lines. You
> can go from a blinding blizzard to sunny skies in a mile. This band
> was about 15 miles wide and went North-east-east. Places 10 miles
> south of Buffalo got nothing. We had 10 minutes of flurries yesterday
> but that's about it. It is heading north now. Then it is supposed to
> weaken and head south this evening or tomorrow.

Freaky, we're Scarboro brat's and the weather is
quite dynamic there, here in BC it's more placid.
Hudson Bay and those great lakes create weird
weather.

> Look at
> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?...101111&loop=yes
> it'll be up while the storm is there. It's amazingly concentrated. I
> am to the south near the n in Jamestown.

The whole low pressure cell is awesome, huge thing
sitting over northern ontario, looks like a hurricane,
suckin air from the north and spinning it down, might
even cut into Indiana Don's "miracle schedule", wow.

I use to pray alot, then Mr. God said onto me,
"put Me on speed dial and cut out the middle man".
Ken

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