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Pierre Levesque, AIA wrote:
> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> Yup, they're doing what I thought they were doing. It'll work for a while
> and maybe even for a long while. Until it the screws pop out that is... I
> almost can't wait for the first big snowstorm now...
Okay, since the betting pool is getting interesting, I took this
yesterday evening.
Notice on the ridgeline's middle support, it is touching the whole way
across because it is shimmed against the ridgeline. I think it
deflects the ridgeline up a little, giving it and "anti-bow".
What's the betting as to what'll happen next, and no,you can't bet
it'll fall down. That won't happen in the next day or two.
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> Okay, since the betting pool is getting interesting, I took this
> yesterday evening.
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> Notice on the ridgeline's middle support, it is touching the whole way
> across because it is shimmed against the ridgeline. I think it
> deflects the ridgeline up a little, giving it and "anti-bow".
>
> What's the betting as to what'll happen next, and no,you can't bet
> it'll fall down. That won't happen in the next day or two.
I don't think all the doom & gloom is warranted, although I'll admit that
I'd like to see what they're doing on the interior.
The one thing that concerns me is the shimming. Rather than shim and
encourage bowing of the old structure, I would have tried to jack it up.
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JD wrote:
> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> I don't think all the doom & gloom is warranted, although I'll admit that
> I'd like to see what they're doing on the interior.
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> The one thing that concerns me is the shimming. Rather than shim and
> encourage bowing of the old structure, I would have tried to jack it up.
They're doing anything inside, that I see. I don't think they jacked
it up because the floor jack in the middle of the garage would have
made it hard to park a car. :-))
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| Pierre Levesque, AIA 2006-10-19, 5:25 pm |
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> Pierre Levesque, AIA wrote:
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> Okay, since the betting pool is getting interesting, I took this
> yesterday evening.
No link to a picture?
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> Notice on the ridgeline's middle support, it is touching the whole way
> across because it is shimmed against the ridgeline. I think it
> deflects the ridgeline up a little, giving it and "anti-bow".
>
> What's the betting as to what'll happen next, and no,you can't bet
> it'll fall down. That won't happen in the next day or two.
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"Pierre Levesque, AIA" <connarchNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> No link to a picture?
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Pierre Levesque, AIA wrote:[color=darkred]
> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> No link to a picture?
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Sorry.
http://www.artisticphotography.us/garage/IMG_1614.JPG
I'll try to post another one soon. They made good progress today.
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> I'll try to post another one soon. They made good progress today.
Get some interior shots.
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> Pat wrote:
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> They got the roof on. I'm not familar with this, so I can't say if
> it's right or wrong, but it might explain things (but it might not).
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> http://www.artisticphotography.us/garage/IMG_1618.JPG
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> Notice the overlap on the ridge. I hope they fix that tomorrow
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> http://www.artisticphotography.us/garage/IMG_1619.JPG
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> I hope the flashing is "under construction".
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> There is no underlayment. This screwed on right onto the 2-bys that
> you saw.
I had a feeling it was going to be a metal roof. I have no idea what's on
the ridge now, but they should be installing a metal ridge piece.
Are these guys working about 2 hours a day?
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| "Pat"> wrote
> They got the roof on. I'm not familar with this, so I can't say if
> it's right or wrong, but it might explain things (but it might not).
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> http://www.artisticphotography.us/garage/IMG_1618.JPG
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> Notice the overlap on the ridge. I hope they fix that tomorrow
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> http://www.artisticphotography.us/garage/IMG_1619.JPG
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> I hope the flashing is "under construction".
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> There is no underlayment. This screwed on right onto the 2-bys that
> you saw.
Its a pole barn roof!
They do that all over the place around here.
Light gauge frame construction for storing horses and their grub and such.
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
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> "Pat"> wrote
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> Its a pole barn roof!
> They do that all over the place around here.
> Light gauge frame construction for storing horses and their grub and such.
You need to get out more.
I work in a 3-story, pre-engineered metal building with a corrugated metal
roof and you'd never know it. Hardly a pole barn.
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Don wrote:
> "Pat"> wrote
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> Its a pole barn roof!
> They do that all over the place around here.
> Light gauge frame construction for storing horses and their grub and such.
They have them near you. Damn. Just what I need. A tornado magnet
next door to me.
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| "JD"> wrote
> "Don"> wrote
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> You need to get out more.
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> I work in a 3-story, pre-engineered metal building with a corrugated metal
> roof and you'd never know it. Hardly a pole barn.
Heh, let me 'splain.
First, I'm very familiar with the type of building you mentioned.
Steel columns, steel beams, haunch connections, etc.
Down in FL a pole barn is 4"dia PT posts 8' o/c with light wood trusses
8'o/c and 2x4 purlins 4'o/c and corrugated steel roofing.
Up here in Hoosierville they have a different definition for pole barns.
2x4 studs (flat - not like you're used to seeing them) on 8'centers horz and
vertical, 2x4 trusses 8' o/c and corrugated steel sheathing on the roof and
walls.
I have a small one on my property and believe me, you don't want to try to
run an office out of it.
In the beginning I thought about rehabing it for my office but quickly came
to the conclusion the cost wouldn't warrant it.
Its best to just let it house the lawn equipment and junk and build my new
building with common construction techniques.
What those guys did in Pats pic looks very similar to local pole barn
construction.
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| RicodJour 2006-10-20, 3:25 am |
| Pat wrote:
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> They got the roof on. I'm not familar with this, so I can't say if
> it's right or wrong, but it might explain things (but it might not).
>
> http://www.artisticphotography.us/garage/IMG_1618.JPG
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> Notice the overlap on the ridge. I hope they fix that tomorrow
>
> http://www.artisticphotography.us/garage/IMG_1619.JPG
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> I hope the flashing is "under construction".
>
> There is no underlayment. This screwed on right onto the 2-bys that
> you saw.
I had assumed it would be a fiberglass shingle roof. The corrugated
roof is lighter and snow won't build up on it as much - those are the
bright points. On the negative side, they're definitely making it up
as they go along. If the motley assortment of wood is any indication,
they're piecing it together from whatever they had laying around. I
wonder how they chose the location for the blocking. Every other
rafter? Did they even care about hitting the rafters? Concentrating a
distributed load on a reduced set of structural members that were
inadequate to begin with...priceless.
It's a mystery why they didn't jack the swayback out of the ridge. The
ridge has taken a set after all of this time - cutting the ridge in
half and jacking the two cut ends independently would have been a
simpler and cheaper way to go. A few collar ties
Pat, as resident spy for alt.architecture, your mission is to get some
pictures of the interior. If captured, we will disavow any knowledge
of your activities.
R
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-20, 3:25 am |
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RicodJour wrote:
> Pat wrote:
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> I had assumed it would be a fiberglass shingle roof. The corrugated
> roof is lighter and snow won't build up on it as much - those are the
> bright points. On the negative side, they're definitely making it up
> as they go along. If the motley assortment of wood is any indication,
> they're piecing it together from whatever they had laying around. I
> wonder how they chose the location for the blocking. Every other
> rafter? Did they even care about hitting the rafters? Concentrating a
> distributed load on a reduced set of structural members that were
> inadequate to begin with...priceless.
>
> It's a mystery why they didn't jack the swayback out of the ridge. The
> ridge has taken a set after all of this time - cutting the ridge in
> half and jacking the two cut ends independently would have been a
> simpler and cheaper way to go. A few collar ties
>
> Pat, as resident spy for alt.architecture, your mission is to get some
> pictures of the interior. If captured, we will disavow any knowledge
> of your activities.
> R
LOL
My optimism is becoming pessimistic.
This arm chair quarterback figures we're
at 1/2 time, and I have no clue what the
next play will be!
I'm hoping for a rabbit out of the hat, ugh.
Ken
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> I
> wonder how they chose the location for the blocking. Every other
> rafter? Did they even care about hitting the rafters? Concentrating a
> distributed load on a reduced set of structural members that were
> inadequate to begin with...priceless.
They went perpendicular to the roof framing.
> It's a mystery why they didn't jack the swayback out of the ridge. The
> ridge has taken a set after all of this time - cutting the ridge in
> half and jacking the two cut ends independently would have been a
> simpler and cheaper way to go. A few collar ties
I can't understand it either.
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RicodJour wrote:
> Pat wrote:
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> I had assumed it would be a fiberglass shingle roof. The corrugated
> roof is lighter and snow won't build up on it as much - those are the
> bright points. On the negative side, they're definitely making it up
> as they go along. If the motley assortment of wood is any indication,
> they're piecing it together from whatever they had laying around. I
> wonder how they chose the location for the blocking. Every other
> rafter? Did they even care about hitting the rafters? Concentrating a
> distributed load on a reduced set of structural members that were
> inadequate to begin with...priceless.
>
> It's a mystery why they didn't jack the swayback out of the ridge. The
> ridge has taken a set after all of this time - cutting the ridge in
> half and jacking the two cut ends independently would have been a
> simpler and cheaper way to go. A few collar ties
>
> Pat, as resident spy for alt.architecture, your mission is to get some
> pictures of the interior. If captured, we will disavow any knowledge
> of your activities.
>
> R
I don't know. You might have to come upstate and bail me out.
When the guys aren't there, she normally keeps the door closed and
locked. Don't know how I could get any pictures without performing a
few felonies.
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| "Pat"> wrote
> RicodJour wrote:
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> I don't know. You might have to come upstate and bail me out.
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> When the guys aren't there, she normally keeps the door closed and
^^^^
> locked. Don't know how I could get any pictures without performing a
> few felonies.
Become one of the *guys* for a brief period when the real guys aren't
around.
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