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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-20, 5:25 pm |
| Just for a change of topic, mostly.
Arch. details (if I say that, I'm on-topic, right? <G!>> ):
an odd chandelier.
Never seen this one before (did a bit of browsing today)
http://www.lightinginc.com/search_i...?current=118952
&page=14
Then I got a weird thought. What if you had a bunch of small/hidden lights
or spotlights, and to create illumination, used facetted mirrors to scatter
the light...ooooooooooohhh!! <g!>
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| "Kris Krieger"> wrote
> Just for a change of topic, mostly.
>
> Arch. details (if I say that, I'm on-topic, right? <G!>> ):
> an odd chandelier.
>
> Never seen this one before (did a bit of browsing today)
>
> http://www.lightinginc.com/search_i...?current=118952
> &page=14
I wouldn't wanna sit under that thing!
Looks like a prop from a Quentin Tarantino flik.
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-21, 1:25 pm |
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Kris Krieger wrote:
> Just for a change of topic, mostly.
>
> Arch. details (if I say that, I'm on-topic, right? <G!>> ):
> an odd chandelier.
>
> Never seen this one before (did a bit of browsing today)
>
> http://www.lightinginc.com/search_i...?current=118952
> &page=14
>
>
>
> Then I got a weird thought. What if you had a bunch of small/hidden lights
> or spotlights, and to create illumination, used facetted mirrors to scatter
> the light...ooooooooooohhh!! <g!>
Yeah those are great beside a ceiling fan,
using the wind chime feature, tinkle tinkle
all day.
Ken
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-21, 9:25 pm |
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"Don"
> "Kris Krieger"
>
> I wouldn't wanna sit under that thing!
>
> Looks like a prop from a Quentin Tarantino flik.
I pulled an all-nighter here under these last month:
http://www.howardwfrench.com/photos..._airport?full=1
They look like they're under some serious tension.
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-21, 9:25 pm |
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"Kris Krieger"
> Just for a change of topic, mostly.
>
> Arch. details (if I say that, I'm on-topic, right? <G!>> ):
> an odd chandelier.
Coincidentally, earlier today I was researching light bulbs for a
3D-fication of my logo for my site redesign and came across this whilst
doing so:
http://www.centennialbulb.org/
Apparently, it's been burning continuously for over 100 years!
> Then I got a weird thought. What if you had a bunch of small/hidden
> lights
> or spotlights, and to create illumination, used facetted mirrors to
> scatter
> the light...ooooooooooohhh!! <g!>
Cool idea... How about LED's?
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-23, 8:25 pm |
| "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote in news:ehejcn$m18$1@luna.vcn.bc.ca:
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> "Don"
>
> I pulled an all-nighter here under these last month:
> http://www.howardwfrench.com/photos...shanghai_airpor
> t?full=1
>
> They look like they're under some serious tension.
>
>
Yikes! Now that definitely looks like a deliberate attempt to get people
to run, not walk, through and out of the thing. Looks like the Freddi
Kruger Tunnel...
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-23, 8:25 pm |
| "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in
news:1161443421.955147.120350@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
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> Kris Krieger wrote:
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> Yeah those are great beside a ceiling fan,
> using the wind chime feature, tinkle tinkle
> all day.
> Ken
>
Seriously. And I was trying to figure out what kind of light bulbs those
things are.
Makes a lava-lamp look like the Mona Lisa of lighting <L!>
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-23, 8:25 pm |
| "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote in news:ehekf5$m62$1@luna.vcn.bc.ca:
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> "Kris Krieger"
>
> Coincidentally, earlier today I was researching light bulbs for a
> 3D-fication of my logo for my site redesign and came across this
whilst
> doing so:
> http://www.centennialbulb.org/
>
> Apparently, it's been burning continuously for over 100 years!
Hmmm, I'm skeptical...
>
>
> Cool idea... How about LED's?
>
I still like these
http://www.wiedamark.com/index.asp?...TS&Category=137
I saw a bit on HGTV once showing concrete that had parallel optical
fibers densely embedded in it - strange but interesting. So, one thing
I'm trying to figure out is how to translate something I modeled in 3D
while playing around but ended up liking, make a "skeleton" and then use
that as an armature for either clay or concrete, with embedded fibers.
I'd thought about an indoor fountain that was also a candle holder,
combine the fountain part with some LED or fiber lighting. Just haven't
been able to find either an air-dry or oven-bake clay I like working
with (the ones I've tried are too "rubbery" and shrink too much). But
another thought I got, after getting a "Concrete Garden Ornaments" how-
to book, is the idea of using concrete rather than clay.
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-23, 8:25 pm |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in news:ehd4bg01ai3
@news1.newsguy.com:
> "Kris Krieger"> wrote
>
> I wouldn't wanna sit under that thing!
>
> Looks like a prop from a Quentin Tarantino flik.
>
<LOL!> It does!
Get out those Katanas!
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"Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote in news:ehekf5$m62$1@luna.vcn.bc.ca:
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> whilst
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> Hmmm, I'm skeptical...
>
>
> I still like these
> http://www.wiedamark.com/index.asp?...TS&Category=137
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> I saw a bit on HGTV once showing concrete that had parallel optical
> fibers densely embedded in it - strange but interesting. So, one thing
> I'm trying to figure out is how to translate something I modeled in 3D
> while playing around but ended up liking, make a "skeleton" and then use
> that as an armature for either clay or concrete, with embedded fibers.
>
> I'd thought about an indoor fountain that was also a candle holder,
> combine the fountain part with some LED or fiber lighting. Just haven't
> been able to find either an air-dry or oven-bake clay I like working
> with (the ones I've tried are too "rubbery" and shrink too much). But
> another thought I got, after getting a "Concrete Garden Ornaments" how-
> to book, is the idea of using concrete rather than clay.
I made a pretty cool fiber light fixture in college. I wanted to see if I
could reproduce it a few years back but I can't find colored acrylic rod
anymore.
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"Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote in news:ehekf5$m62$1@luna.vcn.bc.ca:
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> whilst
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> Hmmm, I'm skeptical...
I'm not.
My old hometown, Fort Myers, FL, is the home of Edisons lab and there is a
buld there that has been burning from the beginning, prolly at least a 100
years by now.
I seem to remember that the filament(s) are a treated bamboo fiber.
Supposedly he tried thousands of items and combo's before he hit upon an
element that wouldn't burn up yet still produce a useable amount of light.
Thus, "Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration."
BTW: Edisons (and Ford, and Firestone) home(s) are across the street from
the lab, facing on the Caloosahatchee River and he had a swimming pool built
out of concrete with bamboo reinforcing rods. Supposedly all 3 of their
homes were built in modular panels up north (New Jersey or Michigan, can't
remember which) and shipped down to Fort Myers on large sailing boats and
assembled on site. The residences have been undergoing costly ($5mil each
and climbing) restorations for the past several years and I was asked to
assist but declined due to scheduling. (really, I've had my share of
nightmares with the Hysterical Society and don't need anymore of that)
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-24, 9:25 am |
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Kris Krieger wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in
> news:1161443421.955147.120350@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
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> Seriously. And I was trying to figure out what kind of light bulbs those
> things are.
The link says the're G-9 Halogens.
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-24, 9:25 am |
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Kris Krieger wrote:
> "Warm Worm" <warm@worm.ca> wrote in news:ehekf5$m62$1@luna.vcn.bc.ca:
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> whilst
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> Hmmm, I'm skeptical...
I needed a night light in my last office,
chose 20 red X-mas lights (red good for night
vision) dimmed down to 50% on all the time.
Went 5 years before any burned out, but that's
5x20 = 100 years of burn time total before a
burn out. But of course a dimmed bulb like
WW linked to, is the key, running the bulb
cooler extends it's life big-time.
Ken
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"Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> Just for a change of topic, mostly.
>
> Arch. details (if I say that, I'm on-topic, right? <G!>> ):
> an odd chandelier.
>
> Never seen this one before (did a bit of browsing today)
>
> http://www.lightinginc.com/search_i...?current=118952
> &page=14
>
>
>
> Then I got a weird thought. What if you had a bunch of small/hidden
> lights
> or spotlights, and to create illumination, used facetted mirrors to
> scatter
> the light...ooooooooooohhh!! <g!>
>
I have a project with very similar lighting..
forth picture, top row. Click to enlarge.
http://www.venturefour.com/html/stewart_final.html
They actually look really good in the right application!
jojo
(yes, it's grass at the bottom of each column)
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-25, 5:25 pm |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
> news:gCb%g.18360$UG4.5156@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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> I'm not.
> My old hometown, Fort Myers, FL, is the home of Edisons lab and there
> is a buld there that has been burning from the beginning, prolly at
> least a 100 years by now.
I thought he lived and worked in Menlo Park. THat's what the historical
marker and museum said...
I'd have to look intot he light bulb thing, if I can remember after
clearing some of this other stuff off my plate. I don't see how bamboo
could hold up, how the vacuum could stay intact, and so on. Not sayign
it ain't so, just that I'm skeptical and would have to look into it.
> I seem to remember that the filament(s) are a treated bamboo fiber.
> Supposedly he tried thousands of items and combo's before he hit upon
> an element that wouldn't burn up yet still produce a useable amount of
> light. Thus, "Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration."
>
> BTW: Edisons (and Ford, and Firestone) home(s) are across the street
> from the lab, facing on the Caloosahatchee River and he had a swimming
> pool built out of concrete with bamboo reinforcing rods. Supposedly
> all 3 of their homes were built in modular panels up north (New Jersey
> or Michigan, can't remember which) and shipped down to Fort Myers on
> large sailing boats and assembled on site. The residences have been
> undergoing costly ($5mil each and climbing) restorations for the past
> several years and I was asked to assist but declined due to
> scheduling. (really, I've had my share of nightmares with the
> Hysterical Society and don't need anymore of that)
>
>
>
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-25, 5:25 pm |
| "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in
news:1161696100.022048.38080@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
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> Kris Krieger wrote:
118[color=darkred]
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> The link says the're G-9 Halogens.
>
>
I wasn't at all clear  - I mean, I'll have to look int the store and
try to find them, to see the size and light output. It doesn't look to
me like it gives off much light.
OTOH, also doesn't look well-built, either...
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-25, 5:25 pm |
| "jojo" <cgv_2000@*remove your hat*yahoo.com> wrote in news:4Op%g.822
$s6.405@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
> news:vj9_g.16394$UG4.12304@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
118952[color=darkred]
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> I have a project with very similar lighting..
> forth picture, top row. Click to enlarge.
> http://www.venturefour.com/html/stewart_final.html
>
> They actually look really good in the right application!
>
> jojo
> (yes, it's grass at the bottom of each column)
>
THe cnandelier didn't enclose/hade them - your sconces look like the
"icecicle" shapes are actually shades, which filters any glare.
Nice living room BTW. I wouldn't have the upper alcoves as dark, but
overall, nice.
The mantel is good, too. The one this place came with (yeah,
development house) is ultra-"traditional", and does not at all go with
the round-edged arched doorways inside. I have to find my digital
camera (such as it is <g!> ) and snap some shots, and post a render of
something more like what I'd like to have there. But the one if your
pic is restraines without being cliche'd; I like it.
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-25, 5:25 pm |
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Kris Krieger wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in
> news:1161696100.022048.38080@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
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> 118
>
> I wasn't at all clear - I mean, I'll have to look int the store and
> try to find them, to see the size and light output. It doesn't look to
> me like it gives off much light.
>
> OTOH, also doesn't look well-built, either...
"well-built", as a 5 yo brat in a mid-class sub-divison,
the red head next door had "torpedo tits", awesome.
Anyway, she puts up a wind chime in her back yard,
and anything she did was heavenly, unfortunately my
Old girl and the red head's husband got together and
forced her to take it down, oh well, every tingle of that
chime reminded me of the red heads torpedoes.
I still feel that tingling sensation...
Ken
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"Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote
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> I thought he lived and worked in Menlo Park. THat's what the historical
> marker and museum said...
>
> I'd have to look intot he light bulb thing, if I can remember after
> clearing some of this other stuff off my plate. I don't see how bamboo
> could hold up, how the vacuum could stay intact, and so on. Not sayign
> it ain't so, just that I'm skeptical and would have to look into it.
Here's the site for the Edison Home and Lab.
Everything still sits just as he left it.
http://www.efwefla.org/
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-26, 9:25 am |
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"Kris Krieger"
> "Warm Worm"
> Yikes! Now that definitely looks like a deliberate attempt to get people
> to run, not walk, through and out of the thing. Looks like the Freddi
> Kruger Tunnel...
I saw a few of those when I was younger. These days it's reality that wins
out in scariness.
I forgot about the ceiling after awhile anyway and slept with a young asian
woman who was already asleep on the only padded bench in the airport.
I was happy to get back home.
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| "Warm Worm"> wrote
> These days it's reality that wins out in scariness.
Ain't that the truth!
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"Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message news:7kQ%g.12818
> THe cnandelier didn't enclose/hade them - your sconces look like the
> "icecicle" shapes are actually shades, which filters any glare.
yeah, I knew they were simular, but not quite the same.
> Nice living room BTW. I wouldn't have the upper alcoves as dark, but
> overall, nice.
Thanks....we worked with an interior designer on the colors and such. Plus
some came straight from the owner of course.
> The mantel is good, too. The one this place came with (yeah,
> development house) is ultra-"traditional", and does not at all go with
> the round-edged arched doorways inside. I have to find my digital
> camera (such as it is <g!> ) and snap some shots, and post a render of
> something more like what I'd like to have there. But the one if your
> pic is restraines without being cliche'd; I like it.
>
I'm trying to remember where we got that mantel...I'll shoot you a link when
I have time to go look up the file.
It was VERY expensive. There is an outdoor fireplace with a mantel from the
same company (that one was owner choice and I do not like it). The fireplace
in the master office is wood trimmed, I'll check and see if I have any pics
of it...
Did you like the kitchen? I'll go out on a limb and tell you it's my pride
and joy.
Very functional (I've attended several dinner parties there). The ceiling
and walls are "thin brick".
Awesome product. The kitchen has a second floor above, so we raised the
plate in there and created an arched ceiling with plywood. We glued the thin
brick, then used real mortar (with and adhesive compound) in the joints.
Turned out awesome!
jojo
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-26, 1:25 pm |
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jojo wrote:
....
> Did you like the kitchen? I'll go out on a limb and tell you it's my pride
> and joy.
Well jojo, the wine vintage is from an inferior year,
and the dark cupboards cover up how many cans
of beans you have in stock to feed the guys when
they come over to check out the shop, btw, where
is the shop, all you're pix show the gurly sissy stuff.
Did I miss the beer frig in the *billiard* room?
> Very functional (I've attended several dinner parties there). The ceiling
> and walls are "thin brick".
> Awesome product. The kitchen has a second floor above, so we raised the
> plate in there and created an arched ceiling with plywood. We glued the thin
> brick, then used real mortar (with and adhesive compound) in the joints.
> Turned out awesome!
> jojo
Yes really nice. My hobby is to check out hotel
lobbies and bars when I travel, there's some genious
stuff in them too.
But no shop :-(.
As a kid, a buddy of mine's dad had a mansion on
a 100 acres or so. We spent most of the time in the
shop making boomerangs, kites, spears, cannons...
on and on, or playing in the trees, or the golly's.
But I digress.
Ken
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
| "JD" <laughingarchitectNOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
> news:gCb%g.18360$UG4.5156@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> I made a pretty cool fiber light fixture in college. I wanted to see
> if I could reproduce it a few years back but I can't find colored
> acrylic rod anymore.
>
Try this:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...2acrylic+rod%22
I just did it and haven't looked at the sites, but it seems like you ought
to be able to find them, at least on-line. If you do reproduce it, post
pics ;) !
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:ehoqn101tnr@news1.newsguy.com:
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote
>
> Here's the site for the Edison Home and Lab.
> Everything still sits just as he left it.
> http://www.efwefla.org/
>
Hmm. It says "Winter estate" so I guess he split his time between climates
- which makes sense to me ;)
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
| "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in
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> Kris Krieger wrote:
current=[color=darkred]
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to[color=darkred]
>
> "well-built", as a 5 yo brat in a mid-class sub-divison,
> the red head next door had "torpedo tits", awesome.
> Anyway, she puts up a wind chime in her back yard,
> and anything she did was heavenly, unfortunately my
> Old girl and the red head's husband got together and
> forced her to take it down, oh well, every tingle of that
> chime reminded me of the red heads torpedoes.
> I still feel that tingling sensation...
> Ken
>
>
Hmm, gives new meaning to "ring my chimes"...
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
| "jojo" <cgv_2000@*remove your hat*yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bU20h.16073$TV3.7812@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message news:7kQ%g.12818
>
>
> yeah, I knew they were simular, but not quite the same.
It's interesting, as a general phenomenon, how different that similar
things can actually look (sound, feel, etc.) and what a difference can
be made by even one detail. That's one of the fascinating things IMO
about design, and structures - two buildings (private residence or
public building) can be very similar, but one can look great, and even
be artistic, put one in a good mood just to look at it - while the other
can look trite, unimpressive, even depressing.
Curious thing. If there is a formula to it, I can't figure it out - and
thank goodness for that ;) ! It's the fascinating thing about all the
arts. It's almost as though, the more similar 2 things are, the more
one sees the differences between them.
>
> Thanks....we worked with an interior designer on the colors and such.
> Plus some came straight from the owner of course.
One would hope ;)
The rest is too large for me personally, but I do like an open, light-
filled space that still feels "personal". I also like to have places to
put artwork.
I even put up some of my own, conceited tho' it might be <L!> Which is
also why I personally go for neutral wall colors - sometimes, the
building's details are themselves the visual interest, but other times,
some parts of the building are excelelnt backdrops for artwork, 2D or
sculpture, etc. Anyway, I liked the idea of the upper "niches" in the
wall for the larger sculptures. That sort of a wall could also make for
some interesting spaces on the otehr side as well, I'd imagine.
>
> I'm trying to remember where we got that mantel...I'll shoot you a
> link when I have time to go look up the file.
> It was VERY expensive. There is an outdoor fireplace with a mantel
> from the same company (that one was owner choice and I do not like
> it). The fireplace in the master office is wood trimmed, I'll check
> and see if I have any pics of it...
> Did you like the kitchen? I'll go out on a limb and tell you it's my
> pride and joy.
> Very functional (I've attended several dinner parties there). The
> ceiling and walls are "thin brick".
> Awesome product. The kitchen has a second floor above, so we raised
> the plate in there and created an arched ceiling with plywood. We
> glued the thin brick, then used real mortar (with and adhesive
> compound) in the joints. Turned out awesome!
The details look well-done, and the ceiling is pretty cool - as I've
gotten older, I've found that I often like broad arcs, and arched
openings. So I like the vaulted ceiling.
From what I see ot the detailing and the shapes, it looks quite nice,
but I can't handle dark colors in a room (tendency towards dark moods),
so I gravitate towards light neutrals. The brick has sort of an Old
Europe feel, like a French wine cellar, and it does look nice, also
looks functional. The method is probably only limited by the veneers
that are available. I'd love to also see it in something like
travartine or limestone. Or maybe unpolished marble - I verymuch like
the almost "velvety" look that light-colored unpolished stone can have.
I like the, what is it called, ?cove lighting? on top of the cabinets,
like the elclosed stove (keeps grease contained), good storage 
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| Kris Krieger 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
| "jojo" <cgv_2000@*remove your hat*yahoo.com> wrote in
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Oh yeah, sent the last msg before saying "Thanks" for the offer re: info
on the mantel company. Bad manners on my part! So: Thanks ;)
What I'd like to do is build one. ((Yup, I literally have a notebook
with ideas, and plans for constructing them...I don't need a shop, I
need space the size of a warehouse =:-o ))
>
> Thanks....we worked with an interior designer on the colors and such.
> Plus some came straight from the owner of course.
>
>
> I'm trying to remember where we got that mantel...I'll shoot you a
> link when I have time to go look up the file.
> It was VERY expensive. There is an outdoor fireplace with a mantel
> from the same company (that one was owner choice and I do not like
> it). The fireplace in the master office is wood trimmed, I'll check
> and see if I have any pics of it...
>
> Did you like the kitchen? I'll go out on a limb and tell you it's my
> pride and joy.
> Very functional (I've attended several dinner parties there). The
> ceiling and walls are "thin brick".
> Awesome product. The kitchen has a second floor above, so we raised
> the plate in there and created an arched ceiling with plywood. We
> glued the thin brick, then used real mortar (with and adhesive
> compound) in the joints. Turned out awesome!
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> jojo
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"Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> "JD" <laughingarchitectNOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...2acrylic+rod%22
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> I just did it and haven't looked at the sites, but it seems like you ought
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Well, it looks like it's available again. Excpet that I think what I used
was smaller than 1/4"... I'll have to search some more. Back in '78 or so, I
bought them at the local crafts store. The red is amazing when lit.
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| "JD" <laughingarchitectNOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> Well, it looks like it's available again. Excpet that I think what I
> used was smaller than 1/4"... I'll have to search some more. Back in
> '78 or so, I bought them at the local crafts store. The red is amazing
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Maybe you can substitute fiber optic cable - there is a type out where
the entire fiber lights up, rather than just the tip.
I've got this link
http://www.wiedamark.com/index.asp?...TS&Category=137
but there should be more.
HTH
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