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| Welp, the first load of lumber was delivered today and after running back
and forth from my storage unit for tools and etc., I managed to get (1) 8'
section of wall built on the left rear corner.
(this pic is from the driveway out by the road, and you're looking at the
front of the garage. There will be 2 8'w garage doors on the left and a 3'
french door on the right, from where I'm standing the driveway slopes down
toward the garage)
The PT bottom plates are saturated and when shooting 16's (Paslode Cordless
Framing Nailer) into it the water exploded all over the place. Even my brand
new Irwin 3 tooth auger bit bogged down repeatedly while drilling the
anchorbolt holes. Because the PT is so saturated I did not run the plates
through the table saw to make them the same width as the studs like I had
originally planned to do. A trip to the ER was not part of my gameplan
today.
What you're seeing here in the foreground are the 2x4 x 12' bottom and top
plates and the 2x10 header material.
On the slab, on the left is a bunk of 8' 2x4's and on the right is 30 sheets
of 1/2" OSB.
Our house is on the far right, and to the rear of the slab is the drop off
that the backhoe plunged down a month ago.
To get it to the stage you see right there, not including the lumber, it
cost $3600 for the excavation and fill/gravel, and $5900 for the footers,
stemwall and slab and driveway apron (#4000). This is about 3 times what I
would expect to pay in FL.
This pic was taken with my cell-camera. I have many digipix but have
misplaced my usb cord, can't find my stand alone card reader, and currently
have no way to ftp them to my site. But I will eventually have them on my
site along with narration.
http://i13.tinypic.com/33mlmyp.jpg
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-25, 3:25 am |
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Don wrote:
> Welp, the first load of lumber was delivered today and after running back
> and forth from my storage unit for tools and etc., I managed to get (1) 8'
> section of wall built on the left rear corner.
>
> (this pic is from the driveway out by the road, and you're looking at the
> front of the garage. There will be 2 8'w garage doors on the left and a 3'
> french door on the right, from where I'm standing the driveway slopes down
> toward the garage)
>
> The PT bottom plates are saturated and when shooting 16's (Paslode Cordless
> Framing Nailer) into it the water exploded all over the place. Even my brand
> new Irwin 3 tooth auger bit bogged down repeatedly while drilling the
> anchorbolt holes. Because the PT is so saturated I did not run the plates
> through the table saw to make them the same width as the studs like I had
> originally planned to do. A trip to the ER was not part of my gameplan
> today.
>
> What you're seeing here in the foreground are the 2x4 x 12' bottom and top
> plates and the 2x10 header material.
> On the slab, on the left is a bunk of 8' 2x4's and on the right is 30 sheets
> of 1/2" OSB.
> Our house is on the far right, and to the rear of the slab is the drop off
> that the backhoe plunged down a month ago.
>
> To get it to the stage you see right there, not including the lumber, it
> cost $3600 for the excavation and fill/gravel, and $5900 for the footers,
> stemwall and slab and driveway apron (#4000). This is about 3 times what I
> would expect to pay in FL.
>
> This pic was taken with my cell-camera. I have many digipix but have
> misplaced my usb cord, can't find my stand alone card reader, and currently
> have no way to ftp them to my site. But I will eventually have them on my
> site along with narration.
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/33mlmyp.jpg
Nice...with 1/2 XXX weather you could get
a serious chunk done by December.
Today we did some trim (Skil & Jig) outside
@ 45F, with light gloves, personally I like
the cooler weather for workin', tho I time-out
at 10F, too cold...rain is the real XXXXX, ahhh.
I've pre-drill concrete, stuffed in lead/plastic
anchors and then lag-bolted. It can be a bit
iffy (experience), but when them bolts take,
ooo...nice.
BTW, how are you and wifey doing with the
new house, you guys like it?
Best of weather!
Ken
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| "Ken S. Tucker"> wrote
> Nice...with 1/2 XXX weather you could get
> a serious chunk done by December.
> Today we did some trim (Skil & Jig) outside
> @ 45F, with light gloves, personally I like
> the cooler weather for workin', tho I time-out
> at 10F, too cold...rain is the real XXXXX, ahhh.
>
> I've pre-drill concrete, stuffed in lead/plastic
> anchors and then lag-bolted. It can be a bit
> iffy (experience), but when them bolts take,
> ooo...nice.
>
> BTW, how are you and wifey doing with the
> new house, you guys like it?
> Best of weather!
Its about 22 out right now at 7am Wed., a little nippy.
Yesterday it was in the low 30's all day and by mid afternoon I was running
around in a t-shirt.
Perfect working weather, no chance of breaking a sweat, and you have to keep
moving to stay comfortable.
We just assembled all 3 parts of our 2nd level of heat redundancy last
night, a propane gas fireplace - mantle, firebox, logs - 30,000btu.
It uses no electricity, cept for 9volt batteries in the thermostat and
remote. Will work when the powerlines are down due to ice.
Gotta get a propane dood out here to connect it to the main line.
(the old main line, 1/4" copper, was cut while digging the garage foundation
so I had a new insulated line installed (125 feet long) installed @
$1.75/ft)
Our main heat is a forced air propane furnace, (we have a 500 gal tank-above
ground) but it is contolled by 110v. My 3rd level redundancy for heat is a
small Coleman portable propane heater, 3,000btu that runs 7 hours off those
16.4 tanks. I have an adapter on order to connect it to my 20# tanks for the
grill.
Though it will slow up my construction my wife and I are anxiously waiting
for the first snow.
We haven't seen any of that stuff since xmas 1984.
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| Pierre Levesque, AIA 2006-10-25, 9:25 am |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
news:ehmi8l01egr@news4.newsguy.com...
> Welp, the first load of lumber was delivered today and after running back
> and forth from my storage unit for tools and etc., I managed to get (1) 8'
> section of wall built on the left rear corner.
>
> (this pic is from the driveway out by the road, and you're looking at the
> front of the garage. There will be 2 8'w garage doors on the left and a 3'
> french door on the right, from where I'm standing the driveway slopes down
> toward the garage)
>
> The PT bottom plates are saturated and when shooting 16's (Paslode
> Cordless Framing Nailer) into it the water exploded all over the place.
> Even my brand new Irwin 3 tooth auger bit bogged down repeatedly while
> drilling the anchorbolt holes. Because the PT is so saturated I did not
> run the plates through the table saw to make them the same width as the
> studs like I had originally planned to do. A trip to the ER was not part
> of my gameplan today.
>
> What you're seeing here in the foreground are the 2x4 x 12' bottom and top
> plates and the 2x10 header material.
> On the slab, on the left is a bunk of 8' 2x4's and on the right is 30
> sheets of 1/2" OSB.
> Our house is on the far right, and to the rear of the slab is the drop off
> that the backhoe plunged down a month ago.
>
> To get it to the stage you see right there, not including the lumber, it
> cost $3600 for the excavation and fill/gravel, and $5900 for the footers,
> stemwall and slab and driveway apron (#4000). This is about 3 times what I
> would expect to pay in FL.
>
> This pic was taken with my cell-camera. I have many digipix but have
> misplaced my usb cord, can't find my stand alone card reader, and
> currently have no way to ftp them to my site. But I will eventually have
> them on my site along with narration.
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/33mlmyp.jpg
Dang. So far the place looks like Ken's place :-P
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-25, 1:25 pm |
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Pierre Levesque, AIA wrote:
> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
> news:ehmi8l01egr@news4.newsguy.com...
> Dang. So far the place looks like Ken's place :-P
Don's will look way better IF he uses this...
http://www.constructionmaster.com/
If I had one of them I'd have built a mansion!
I was just reviewing their product brochure,
anyone ever use something like that?
Ken
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-25, 1:25 pm |
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Don wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker"> wrote
>
> Its about 22 out right now at 7am Wed., a little nippy.
> Yesterday it was in the low 30's all day and by mid afternoon I was running
> around in a t-shirt.
> Perfect working weather, no chance of breaking a sweat, and you have to keep
> moving to stay comfortable.
Sounds like a cold snap, we're sunny ~50F, @ 10 am,
better than seasonal.
> We just assembled all 3 parts of our 2nd level of heat redundancy last
> night, a propane gas fireplace - mantle, firebox, logs - 30,000btu.
> It uses no electricity, cept for 9volt batteries in the thermostat and
> remote. Will work when the powerlines are down due to ice.
> Gotta get a propane dood out here to connect it to the main line.
> (the old main line, 1/4" copper, was cut while digging the garage foundation
> so I had a new insulated line installed (125 feet long) installed @
> $1.75/ft)
Friend of ours had a remote controlled propane fireplace,
that was nice. There's a debate whether they should be
vented or not, some jurisdictions mandate that others don't,
do you have an opinion on that, or is too soon to ask?
> Our main heat is a forced air propane furnace, (we have a 500 gal tank-above
> ground) but it is contolled by 110v. My 3rd level redundancy for heat is a
> small Coleman portable propane heater, 3,000btu that runs 7 hours off those
> 16.4 tanks. I have an adapter on order to connect it to my 20# tanks for the
> grill.
>
> Though it will slow up my construction my wife and I are anxiously waiting
> for the first snow.
> We haven't seen any of that stuff since xmas 1984.
1984!!!? Snow's changed a lot since then.
It is now politically corrected coming in colors
varing from light yellow to tan, some places
even get pink, but there's nothing wrong with
that ;-).
Sure hope you keep them pix rolling, love the
evolution, (beauty spot btw).
Fair Skies
Ken
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| "Ken S. Tucker"> wrote
> Don wrote:
>
> Friend of ours had a remote controlled propane fireplace,
> that was nice. There's a debate whether they should be
> vented or not, some jurisdictions mandate that others don't,
> do you have an opinion on that, or is too soon to ask?
Well, I don't care one whit about *jurisdictions* but I do have regard for
health concerns and I have yet to find a concensus as to whether vented or
non-vented is an issue. The only thing I have seen at all is that its a
*good idea* to provide for additional outside ventilation when using a
non-vented fireplace or stove. The drections that came with this thing has
all kinds of calculations to determine how much volume we'll be heating
divided by the number of btu's, times this and that and ....shwew....
Seems like no one knows for sure if the stuffs good or bad and everyone is
afraid of a lawsuit down the line, but they are also cautious about damaging
their market share. Whats a hapless consumer to do????? LOL
Ours is non-vented and the reasons are that I just didn't want to cut a hole
in the wall or ceiling/floor/roof, and the additional expense for the said
venting materials.
The house we rented for a month when we first moved here had a non-vented
Vermont Castings stove that we used all day everyday for a full month and no
one suffered ill effects.
Anyway at this point its a non issue, the deal is done, and if I ever have
2nd thoughts on it, I'll just bust out a 1" auger bit and make me some vents
in the wall! heh
Speaking of auger bits, have you seen the new Irwin Tri-Auger bits?
Man, they look nasty, and futuristic....and they cut like a SOAB.
They are deep electric blue in color and get this, they have 3, yes 3,
cutting twists wrapped around the center.
I'm prolly not describing this properly but drop in Lowes and check em out.
I bought a case with 8 bits in it, 1/2" to 1-1/2". Owwwww.......
I likes me sum toolz.
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-26, 9:25 am |
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"Don"
> Its about 22 out right now at 7am Wed., a little nippy.
> Yesterday it was in the low 30's all day and by mid afternoon I was
> running around in a t-shirt.
> Perfect working weather, no chance of breaking a sweat, and you have to
> keep moving to stay comfortable.
I guess that's a little cooler than Florida. 
It looks like a lovely parcel of land... Did you say you were going to live
in the garage once done until the main house was finished?
The picture looks a little blurry.
> We just assembled all 3 parts of our 2nd level of heat redundancy last
> night, a propane gas fireplace - mantle, firebox, logs - 30,000btu.
> It uses no electricity, cept for 9volt batteries in the thermostat and
> remote. Will work when the powerlines are down due to ice.
> Gotta get a propane dood out here to connect it to the main line.
> (the old main line, 1/4" copper, was cut while digging the garage
> foundation so I had a new insulated line installed (125 feet long)
> installed @ $1.75/ft)
> Our main heat is a forced air propane furnace, (we have a 500 gal
> tank-above ground) but it is contolled by 110v. My 3rd level redundancy
> for heat is a small Coleman portable propane heater, 3,000btu that runs 7
> hours off those 16.4 tanks. I have an adapter on order to connect it to my
> 20# tanks for the grill.
>
> Though it will slow up my construction my wife and I are anxiously waiting
> for the first snow.
> We haven't seen any of that stuff since xmas 1984.
That's partly why I'm down the road from Ken in Vancouver-- to avoid the
stuff.
Talk to us again about it in late February. ;)
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-26, 9:25 am |
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"Ken S. Tucker"
>
> 1984!!!? Snow's changed a lot since then.
> It is now politically corrected coming in colors
> varing from light yellow to tan, some places
> even get pink, but there's nothing wrong with
> that ;-).
Reminds me; any outdoor natural hot-springs in your area Ken?
I recall with fondness a snowball fight ages ago at Banff Springs during a
snowstorm.
> Sure hope you keep them pix rolling, love the
> evolution, (beauty spot btw).
Indeed.
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| Warm Worm 2006-10-26, 9:25 am |
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"Ken S. Tucker"
>
> Pierre Levesque, AIA wrote:
Ah, that might explain the blurriness.
[color=darkred]
>
> Don's will look way better IF he uses this...
> http://www.constructionmaster.com/
> If I had one of them I'd have built a mansion!
Maybe, but your organizer shelving unit RULES.
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-26, 9:25 am |
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Don wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker"> wrote
>
> Well, I don't care one whit about *jurisdictions* but I do have regard for
> health concerns and I have yet to find a concensus as to whether vented or
> non-vented is an issue. The only thing I have seen at all is that its a
> *good idea* to provide for additional outside ventilation when using a
> non-vented fireplace or stove. The drections that came with this thing has
> all kinds of calculations to determine how much volume we'll be heating
> divided by the number of btu's, times this and that and ....shwew....
> Seems like no one knows for sure if the stuffs good or bad and everyone is
> afraid of a lawsuit down the line, but they are also cautious about damaging
> their market share. Whats a hapless consumer to do????? LOL
>
> Ours is non-vented and the reasons are that I just didn't want to cut a hole
> in the wall or ceiling/floor/roof, and the additional expense for the said
> venting materials.
> The house we rented for a month when we first moved here had a non-vented
> Vermont Castings stove that we used all day everyday for a full month and no
> one suffered ill effects.
We lit up a little propane stove in our 8x12 shed,
it definitely needed venting, (teary eyes) but it has
no catalytic converter. With the catalyzer I've sat
in ice fishing huts in boxer shorts with no problems
whatsoever. So I suppose the only issue in a sealed
home would be CO2.
We're only on the grid right now, gotta get some
propane back-up too, ~$70 for a catalyzer burner,
that attaches to the top of a tank.
> Anyway at this point its a non issue, the deal is done, and if I ever have
> 2nd thoughts on it, I'll just bust out a 1" auger bit and make me some vents
> in the wall! heh
>
> Speaking of auger bits, have you seen the new Irwin Tri-Auger bits?
> Man, they look nasty, and futuristic....and they cut like a SOAB.
> They are deep electric blue in color and get this, they have 3, yes 3,
> cutting twists wrapped around the center.
> I'm prolly not describing this properly but drop in Lowes and check em out.
> I bought a case with 8 bits in it, 1/2" to 1-1/2". Owwwww.......
> I likes me sum toolz.
That's new to me, makes sense though, cuz
they have 3 cutting edges building saw-dust,
so that would cut 50% faster because of the
3rd blade, must check that out.
Ken
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-26, 9:25 am |
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Warm Worm wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker"
>
> Reminds me; any outdoor natural hot-springs in your area Ken?
> I recall with fondness a snowball fight ages ago at Banff Springs during a
> snowstorm.
There's this not far from us...
http://www.nakusphotsprings.com/
I've heard there's a nude area as well that's free,
but haven't been there yet, but the price is ok.
>
> Indeed.
Ken
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| "Warm Worm"> wrote
> "Don"
>
> I guess that's a little cooler than Florida.
> It looks like a lovely parcel of land... Did you say you were going to
> live in the garage once done until the main house was finished?
No. The house is existing, built in 1998, and we're presently living in it.
2/3 (24'x24') of the new building will be my garage/workshop and 1/3
(12'x24') will be my office.
Though I'll be spending a lot of time in the new building I'll still be
eating, sleeping, showering, etc. in the house.
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| "Warm Worm"> wrote
> "Ken S. Tucker"
>
> Reminds me; any outdoor natural hot-springs in your area Ken?
> I recall with fondness a snowball fight ages ago at Banff Springs during a
> snowstorm.
Banff.
I like that big hotel I've seen on the Travel channel that has a green
(oxidized copper?) roof.
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-26, 9:25 am |
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Warm Worm wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker"
>
> Ah, that might explain the blurriness.
>
>
> Maybe, but your organizer shelving unit RULES.
I'm borderline OCD when it comes to organization,
I've worked with people who spend 3/4's of their
time looking for this screw or that part or the right
driver or do-hiccy, but some enjoy that.
My problem is I'm easily distracted, so if I stop
working to look for something I find something else
to do, then ask what the hell was I supposed to be
doing, then I gotta reprogram the brain-box again.
My last shop was 24x28, the center piece was
a 4x4 box bolted to the wall that unlocked and
opened up to 4x8. In that was the hand tools I
used 98% of the time neatly arranged. The men
loved it, a 1/2 XXX shop reasonably organized
is like a toy box, makes building something fun.
My Old boy's shop was total chaos, stuff piled
everywhere, he stopped using it, so I took a
few days and organized & refurbished it, he
loved it, but in a week or so piles of stuff re-
appeared, I had to laugh, it's a territorial thing.
Wife and kid's are the same, if I clean off a
table an hour later there's a toy in middle or
wifes magazine.
Should be interesting to see what Don comes
up with for an "organizer" :-).
Ken
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| RicodJour 2006-10-26, 1:25 pm |
| Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>
> Don's will look way better IF he uses this...
> http://www.constructionmaster.com/
> If I had one of them I'd have built a mansion!
> I was just reviewing their product brochure,
> anyone ever use something like that?
I've used earlier versions. They work fine when you're out in the
field and it's all you have. What's wrong with using the computer
you're on now and doing the same functions? You'd have a printed copy
without the annoyance of working on such a small screen.
R
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| RicodJour 2006-10-26, 1:25 pm |
| Don wrote:
>
> Ours is non-vented and the reasons are that I just didn't want to cut a hole
> in the wall or ceiling/floor/roof, and the additional expense for the said
> venting materials.
> The house we rented for a month when we first moved here had a non-vented
> Vermont Castings stove that we used all day everyday for a full month and no
> one suffered ill effects.
>
> Anyway at this point its a non issue, the deal is done, and if I ever have
> 2nd thoughts on it, I'll just bust out a 1" auger bit and make me some vents
> in the wall! heh
The non-vented add a fair bit of moisture to the air as a combustion
byproduct. That could be a concern for the building itself.
> Speaking of auger bits, have you seen the new Irwin Tri-Auger bits?
> Man, they look nasty, and futuristic....and they cut like a SOAB.
> They are deep electric blue in color and get this, they have 3, yes 3,
> cutting twists wrapped around the center.
> I'm prolly not describing this properly but drop in Lowes and check em out.
> I bought a case with 8 bits in it, 1/2" to 1-1/2". Owwwww.......
> I likes me sum toolz.
The Irwin web site doesn't show such an auger bit and neither does
Lowes. ??
R
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-26, 8:25 pm |
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RicodJour wrote:
> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>
> I've used earlier versions. They work fine when you're out in the
> field and it's all you have. What's wrong with using the computer
> you're on now and doing the same functions? You'd have a printed copy
> without the annoyance of working on such a small screen.
> R
Oh, agreeable, to me it's a bit gimmicky and yes
I do write my own programs using Qbasic, but I
could see something like that being quite spiffy
if it incorporated a laser ranger and level angle
output thing and maybe a stud finder. Most of
the buttons are superflous though, bit too much.
I think it has evolution potential.
Ken
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| RicodJour 2006-10-26, 8:25 pm |
| Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>
> Oh, agreeable, to me it's a bit gimmicky and yes
> I do write my own programs using Qbasic, but I
> could see something like that being quite spiffy
> if it incorporated a laser ranger and level angle
> output thing and maybe a stud finder. Most of
> the buttons are superflous though, bit too much.
> I think it has evolution potential.
So did monkeys - and look what happened. ;)
R
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-10-26, 9:25 pm |
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RicodJour wrote:
> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>
> So did monkeys - and look what happened. ;)
> R
Marilyn Monroe and me, skip the latter.
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