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Don

2006-11-18, 8:25 pm

Lets just say that you're a design professional with centuries of experience
and a client approached you with the request of an original style thatched
roof like what they do in England.
How would you find the necessary info to detail the drawings properly and
how would you find people to install such a thing?


Ken S. Tucker

2006-11-18, 8:25 pm


Don wrote:
> Lets just say that you're a design professional with centuries of experience
> and a client approached you with the request of an original style thatched
> roof like what they do in England.
> How would you find the necessary info to detail the drawings properly and
> how would you find people to install such a thing?


I'm bailing out of this thread front-end, cuz
of fire hazard.
Ken

John

2006-11-18, 8:25 pm

Well Don with my professional advise,
call:
1-800-Collect (to an England roofing company)?


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JOHNNY
Drafting Technician/ Comedian
email: johnny_blazer@safe-mail.net
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
news:ejo5cv0lpo@news1.newsguy.com...
> Lets just say that you're a design professional with centuries of
> experience and a client approached you with the request of an original
> style thatched roof like what they do in England.
> How would you find the necessary info to detail the drawings properly and
> how would you find people to install such a thing?
>



RicodJour

2006-11-18, 8:25 pm

Ken S. Tucker wrote:
> Don wrote:

Here's a place to start. http://www.thatch.org/ UK-based, but you're
not finding too many thatch organizations in the US.

To get you up to speed on the buzz words:
http://www.thatching.com/tech.html

Someone in Ohio you can contact for information:
http://www.roofthatch.com/

BTW, what are you paying for the customized research service?

Since you're fluent in specifications:
http://www.thatchcraft.com/specification.htm

This place in Maine offers workshops on thatching:
http://www.foxmaple.com/FMNatBldWks.html#Thatching
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> I'm bailing out of this thread front-end, cuz
> of fire hazard.


Why would you think that the fire hazard aspect hasn't been addressed?

http://www.nfumutual.co.uk/lifestyl...fire-safety.htm
A tightly packed thatch roof doesn't provide much air flow through the
material, so it smolders more than burns. There are fire resistive
treatments, a rated drywall system can be attached to the underside of
the rafters and a rooftop sprinkler system can be installed.

R

Ken S. Tucker

2006-11-19, 1:25 pm


RicodJour wrote:
> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>
> Here's a place to start. http://www.thatch.org/ UK-based, but you're
> not finding too many thatch organizations in the US.
>
> To get you up to speed on the buzz words:
> http://www.thatching.com/tech.html
>
> Someone in Ohio you can contact for information:
> http://www.roofthatch.com/
>
> BTW, what are you paying for the customized research service?
>
> Since you're fluent in specifications:
> http://www.thatchcraft.com/specification.htm
>
> This place in Maine offers workshops on thatching:
> http://www.foxmaple.com/FMNatBldWks.html#Thatching
>
>
> Why would you think that the fire hazard aspect hasn't been addressed?
>
> http://www.nfumutual.co.uk/lifestyl...fire-safety.htm
> A tightly packed thatch roof doesn't provide much air flow through the
> material, so it smolders more than burns. There are fire resistive
> treatments, a rated drywall system can be attached to the underside of
> the rafters and a rooftop sprinkler system can be installed.
> R


A house with 2-3 feet of snow on the roof looks
really nice, like an X-mas card. Anyway, I've
thought about spraying stryofoam and then fiber
glassing it, I've see that before. So I suppose an
artificial thatched or snow covered roof would be
doable. Tho' pricey might pay long-term for it's
insulation value?
Ken

Michael Bulatovich

2006-11-19, 1:25 pm

Point, set and match!

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:1163897104.880977.49250@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Ken S. Tucker wrote:
>
> Here's a place to start. http://www.thatch.org/ UK-based, but you're
> not finding too many thatch organizations in the US.
>
> To get you up to speed on the buzz words:
> http://www.thatching.com/tech.html
>
> Someone in Ohio you can contact for information:
> http://www.roofthatch.com/
>
> BTW, what are you paying for the customized research service?
>
> Since you're fluent in specifications:
> http://www.thatchcraft.com/specification.htm
>
> This place in Maine offers workshops on thatching:
> http://www.foxmaple.com/FMNatBldWks.html#Thatching
>
>
> Why would you think that the fire hazard aspect hasn't been addressed?
>
> http://www.nfumutual.co.uk/lifestyl...fire-safety.htm
> A tightly packed thatch roof doesn't provide much air flow through the
> material, so it smolders more than burns. There are fire resistive
> treatments, a rated drywall system can be attached to the underside of
> the rafters and a rooftop sprinkler system can be installed.
>
> R
>



3D Peruna

2006-11-20, 1:25 pm

Don wrote:
> Lets just say that you're a design professional with centuries of experience
> and a client approached you with the request of an original style thatched
> roof like what they do in England.
> How would you find the necessary info to detail the drawings properly and
> how would you find people to install such a thing?


Don,

About 5 years ago, I had a client who was interested in a thatched roof.
I did a little surfing and found a company that made a fire-resistant
artificial thatch. They provided a lot of detail help, too. It was a
cool product.

Unfortunately, the client didn't know what they wanted. After 26
revisions (and about 16 completely different schemes), they went to a
different designer. That designer went through about 15 designs and the
last I heard, they've still not built. They just can't make up their
mind about what they really want. They keep trying to describe it, but
when what they've described is shown to them, they say "Yes...that what
we said, but that's not what we want."

I'll see if can find it and post up...

P

3D Peruna

2006-11-20, 1:25 pm

3D Peruna wrote:

>
> I'll see if can find it and post up...
>


This wasn't it:

http://www.acethatch.com/products/r...ic_palm_thatch_

This might help:

http://www.thatch.org/

Some real stuff:

http://www.islandthatch.com/mexican...e%20pricing.htm

This might be it... (it looks sort of familiar, but it's been 5 years):

http://www.fiberthatch.com/

If I come across it again, I'll let you know...

P






Kris Krieger

2006-11-20, 1:25 pm

"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:ejo5cv0lpo@news1.newsguy.com:

> Lets just say that you're a design professional with centuries of
> experience and a client approached you with the request of an original
> style thatched roof like what they do in England.
> How would you find the necessary info to detail the drawings properly
> and how would you find people to install such a thing?
>


A while back (maybe a couple years?) I had been looking into promitive
building techniques (mostly, cob and clay and things like that), but the
closest thing I can recall finding was hay/straw-bale building.

All I could think of is to contact some of the organizations involved with
"traditional" or "primitive" building, and see whether they could direct
you to the right contacts.

HTH...
Don

2006-11-22, 3:25 am

Thanks Paul.

"3D Peruna" <wharold@weirdness.com> wrote in message
news:Cmm8h.18$vQ.4@newsfe03.lga...
> 3D Peruna wrote:
>
>
> This wasn't it:
>
> http://www.acethatch.com/products/r...ic_palm_thatch_
>
> This might help:
>
> http://www.thatch.org/
>
> Some real stuff:
>
> http://www.islandthatch.com/mexican...e%20pricing.htm
>
> This might be it... (it looks sort of familiar, but it's been 5 years):
>
> http://www.fiberthatch.com/
>
> If I come across it again, I'll let you know...
>
> P
>
>
>
>
>
>



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