| Kris Krieger 2006-11-20, 1:25 pm |
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"Warm Worm" <glomerol@yahoo.ca> wrote in
news:1164003657.555718.80250@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Sasquatch wrote:
Top posting the general statements...
Re: "free" -
When you pay someone for services, you're paying both for their time, and
for the years of study and experinece it took them to get into a position
where they have the knowledge (or whatever) that the requester seeks.
Any advice, suggestions, tips, instructions, recommendations, and so on,
that *any* professionals offer, is purely at *their* discretion, *their*
choice.
In my experience, 99.9% of the time, once one gives out freebies (whether
it be advise, samples, coupons, or whatever), the recipients end up just
taking it for granted. IMO that is what lies behind someone getting all
resentful and cranky when someone declines giving out a freebie. Most
recipients begin to think they are somehow "owed" the freebie. And
eventually treat the giver as someone who is "supposed" to be at their
"i.e. the recipient-wannabes) beck and cdall.
I've had that happen to me time and time and time again, over and over
and over. The vast majority of the time, poeple just end up taking
advantage and then, eventually and, in my experience inevitably,
*undervaluing* whe one has been giving, and place higher value on what
they'd paid for.
>
> They may not need to worry too much about that because they can handle
> requests and inquiries that, in their opinion, strain or abuse the
> privilege.
Yup. IOW, true professionals understands that their time and resources
(such as personal energy) are limited, and chooses when to decline
requests for freebies (a.k.a. handouts).
> Would you like to recommend your architect to those on the NG who
> might be in the market down the road?
>
>
> Assuming it is truely free for them and/or that they consider it as
> such.
> Your idea of free may be different. Imagine the two clashing! ;)
As above, it takes time and education and personal application and the
sacrifice of other things, for a person to achieve a certain level of
expertise, and for some professions, it is far longer than it is for
others. In essence, there is no such thing as something being "virtually
free for them". If nothing else, they still have to take time and energy
away from something else in order to hand out freebies.
Anything that *anyone* gives gratis is at *their own discretion*. Nobody
"owes" anyone else anything. Yes, rationally, a general attitude of
give-and-take makes things go more smoothly for everyone, but when a
particular interaction is all about one person doing all the giving and
the other doinbg the taking, the taker is a supplecant and has no right
whatsoever to simply *expect* any/all *demands* to be met/fulfilled.
Any tiome anyone posts a question here regarding archetecture/building,
and someone answers, it is at *their* discretion, it is *their* choice,
and personally ,I appreciate it a lot, especially so because I don't see
that I have much of anything to offer back in exchange. I think it is
greatly generous when peoiple answer my questions.
But to DEMAND answers/advice, and *then*, to add insult to injury by
impugning somepne's professionalism merely because they chose to decline
giving away gratis their knowledge and/or experience? If someone did
that to me, implies I'm "unprofessional" merely because I did give away
my knowledge for free? Well, the word for that is, "killfile". I have
nothing to do with people like that.
ANd if I recall, this is not the first time "warm worm" has impugned
someone's professionalism for trivial so-called "reasons". IIRC, that
includes mine...
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Horse-hockey. The pro would still charge for parts and labor. THe time
he spent fixing your fuse might have been put, after all, towards a big
and expensive job he'd make good money doing. It's at best sheer egotism
to *expect* someone do "prove" their professionalism <!!> by doing stuff
for free.
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> There is nothing inherently professional about offering "free
> samples", especially when one considers hooks, lock-ins or other forms
> of manipulation. Your expectations may be on-the-money. A free fuse
> today; a gouge tomorrow.
>
> Did I read that you're a father? Well, here's something that might be
> of interest in this regard:
> "Multiple scientific studies show that the industry-sponsored
> discharge bags undermine breastfeeding, by causing breastfeeding
> mothers to start using formula...
> Each bag costs the companies less than $7. A year of formula costs
> parents up to $2,000, a significant portion of which pays for
> marketing. The bags are not really 'free' -- they are paid for by
> families who buy formula."
>
>
> Far too many bosses and jobs aren't worth working for or doing,
> respectively. It works both ways.
>
>
> Actually that doesn't seem like a bad idea-- even for Sas.
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