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| Welp, the day I've waited for for the past 5 months has finally ended and
there's a rectangular ditch in my yard.
Tomorrow footer concrete and steel will be flying.
It started with the removal of 2 60' oak trees and 1 60' cedar, which were
cut in 10' lengths and stacked in the side yard.
I'll figure out what to do with them later.
Then the backhoe jumped in gear.
What a ride, in this Brown County clay thats as slick as greased owl shit.
At one point it slid down over the edge, and kept going, all the way to the
bottom.
It was something else, watching it slide down what I was told was a 60
degree incline (I think it was really about 45 degree) through dense forest,
snapping sapplings along the way.
The operator was dragging the claw-bucket and the outriggers in an effort to
regain control, to no avail.
All the way down.
And the tires alone had no traction in the clay to come back up.
He had to claw his way back up about 150' to semi flat ground. shwew
Go John Deere!
The next thing to happen was breaking the propane line, twice.
Fortunately I had already turned off the gas.
No heat or hot water tonight, and its a little chilly outside (40's).
It'll be fixed tomorrow.
These ol' mountain boys showed me a new way to find water pipes under the
ground.
Water witching.
No shit.
I thought I was watching a UFO or a magician or sumfink.
Amazing.
The ol boy cut a Y shaped skinny branch and held it in his hands and walked
across the yard and suddenly the Y started twitching and then dove toward
the ground. I broke out laughing spontaneously. I don't play that shit. But
there it was before my very eyes.
I said, 'Oh come on now, what are you guys doing?' and everybody looked at
me like, 'What the hells wrong with you?'
I voiced my skepticism and then asked how it did it.
I was told it has to do with the electricity in the human body and its
reaction to water under the ground. Yeah right.
So he handed me the branch.
I positioned it in my hands like he had done and immediately I could feel
something in my fingers. WTF
It was like a very light vibration or very low level continuous shock like
maybe 3 volts.
They saw the branch reacting in my hands and everybody stepped back away
from me in amazement and someone said 'Holy shit look at that, that boys
full of electricity'.
It was weird, man.
I then started walking across the yard and that stick was going out of
control.
Bouncing up and down and moving side to side, like it was alive.
I walked over the main water pipe and that stick dam near jumped out of my
hands.
They told me real big sources of underground water can force the bark off
the branch.
I ran in the house and got my wife and told her she has to see this.
I handed her the stick and she was giggling and the stick physically twisted
in her hands and pointed the end at me.
She quickly handed it back to me and said that thing doesn't feel natural
and went back in the house.
Anybody experienced this stuff?
I don't believe in UFOs, alien abductions (with or without anal probing),
magicians, astrology, ghosts or any of that kind of stuff.
Not sure how to think about this thing.
They told me they expect to have the slab poured by Friday, but its supposed
to rain on wednesday, so we'll see.
I'm ordering the lumber package and trusses tomorrow. (can take up to a week
to get the trusses delivered)
My brother will be here on Wed, and hopefully this coming Sat the boards
will be flyin'.
I expect to have this dryed in in 6 days and the exterior complete in 2
weeks or less.
The plumbers coming by in the morning and the electrician will be here on
wed.
Anyway, as soon as my son comes back from his world travels I'll try to get
him to put the pics of the day up on my site.
This stuffs exciting!
My first real construction project from concept to completion and I am in
complete control!
HOO-AHHHH.........
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| Bob Morrison 2006-09-26, 9:25 am |
| In a previous post Don wrote...
> This stuffs exciting!
>
> My first real construction project from concept to completion and I am in
> complete control!
> HOO-AHHHH.........
>
Congrats! on the experience. When you get done, can you come out here to
redesign and rebuild my sun room?
--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
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| Ken S. Tucker 2006-09-26, 1:25 pm |
|
Don wrote:
> Welp, the day I've waited for for the past 5 months has finally ended and
> there's a rectangular ditch in my yard.
> Tomorrow footer concrete and steel will be flying.
>
> It started with the removal of 2 60' oak trees and 1 60' cedar, which were
> cut in 10' lengths and stacked in the side yard.
> I'll figure out what to do with them later.
Sorry ya had to cut them, but bet their worth some
serious coin, to a local lumber guy. Oak will rot
against the ground, may need to jack them up out
of the dirt. What ~ diameter are they.
> Then the backhoe jumped in gear.
> What a ride, in this Brown County clay thats as slick as greased owl shit.
> At one point it slid down over the edge, and kept going, all the way to the
> bottom.
> It was something else, watching it slide down what I was told was a 60
> degree incline (I think it was really about 45 degree) through dense forest,
> snapping sapplings along the way.
> The operator was dragging the claw-bucket and the outriggers in an effort to
> regain control, to no avail.
So you gotta free trench, make a stair-way :-).
The operator sounds cool and lucky.
> All the way down.
> And the tires alone had no traction in the clay to come back up.
> He had to claw his way back up about 150' to semi flat ground. shwew
> Go John Deere!
>
> The next thing to happen was breaking the propane line, twice.
> Fortunately I had already turned off the gas.
> No heat or hot water tonight, and its a little chilly outside (40's).
> It'll be fixed tomorrow.
>
> These ol' mountain boys showed me a new way to find water pipes under the
> ground.
> Water witching.
> No shit.
> I thought I was watching a UFO or a magician or sumfink.
> Amazing.
> The ol boy cut a Y shaped skinny branch and held it in his hands and walked
> across the yard and suddenly the Y started twitching and then dove toward
> the ground. I broke out laughing spontaneously. I don't play that shit. But
> there it was before my very eyes.
>
> I said, 'Oh come on now, what are you guys doing?' and everybody looked at
> me like, 'What the hells wrong with you?'
> I voiced my skepticism and then asked how it did it.
> I was told it has to do with the electricity in the human body and its
> reaction to water under the ground. Yeah right.
> So he handed me the branch.
>
> I positioned it in my hands like he had done and immediately I could feel
> something in my fingers. WTF
> It was like a very light vibration or very low level continuous shock like
> maybe 3 volts.
> They saw the branch reacting in my hands and everybody stepped back away
> from me in amazement and someone said 'Holy shit look at that, that boys
> full of electricity'.
> It was weird, man.
Must be the musician in ya, or maybe something
else, from the 60's.
> I then started walking across the yard and that stick was going out of
> control.
> Bouncing up and down and moving side to side, like it was alive.
> I walked over the main water pipe and that stick dam near jumped out of my
> hands.
What's your source of water?
> They told me real big sources of underground water can force the bark off
> the branch.
>
> I ran in the house and got my wife and told her she has to see this.
> I handed her the stick and she was giggling and the stick physically twisted
> in her hands and pointed the end at me.
> She quickly handed it back to me and said that thing doesn't feel natural
> and went back in the house.
>
> Anybody experienced this stuff?
My son-in-law is a level headed geo-engineer
and said they've used it successfully.
> I don't believe in UFOs, alien abductions (with or without anal probing),
> magicians, astrology, ghosts or any of that kind of stuff.
> Not sure how to think about this thing.
Me neither, I've struggled to find a qualifying
(and quantifying) theory, but science has a
problem with witching that I know.
I need to find water to drill a well and have
developed some ideas for instruments that
I may test. In the meantime we'll need to
try it.
> They told me they expect to have the slab poured by Friday, but its supposed
> to rain on wednesday, so we'll see.
> I'm ordering the lumber package and trusses tomorrow. (can take up to a week
> to get the trusses delivered)
>
> My brother will be here on Wed, and hopefully this coming Sat the boards
> will be flyin'.
> I expect to have this dryed in in 6 days and the exterior complete in 2
> weeks or less.
May the weather gods favor your Miracle Schedule.
> The plumbers coming by in the morning and the electrician will be here on
> wed.
>
> Anyway, as soon as my son comes back from his world travels I'll try to get
> him to put the pics of the day up on my site.
>
> This stuffs exciting!
>
> My first real construction project from concept to completion and I am in
> complete control!
> HOO-AHHHH.........
Hear ya, CHEERS
Ken
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| Kris Krieger 2006-09-26, 1:25 pm |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:efa990012a4@news4.newsguy.com:
> Welp, the day I've waited for for the past 5 months has finally ended
> and there's a rectangular ditch in my yard.
> Tomorrow footer concrete and steel will be flying.
Congratulations!
> It started with the removal of 2 60' oak trees and 1 60' cedar, which
> were cut in 10' lengths and stacked in the side yard.
> I'll figure out what to do with them later.
That's some valuable wood there. If you don't have a use for it, you
could probably sell it to a woodworker. You could also sell it as
firewood, I guess. Or, run it through a chipper and use/sell it as
mulch.
> Then the backhoe jumped in gear.
> What a ride, in this Brown County clay thats as slick as greased owl
> shit. At one point it slid down over the edge, and kept going, all the
> way to the bottom.
Sounds like what they call "black gumbo" here. It's almost tarry in its
stickiness, but also slippery as you describe - annoying stuff.
> It was something else, watching it slide down what I was told was a 60
> degree incline (I think it was really about 45 degree) through dense
> forest, snapping sapplings along the way.
> The operator was dragging the claw-bucket and the outriggers in an
> effort to regain control, to no avail.
> All the way down.
> And the tires alone had no traction in the clay to come back up.
> He had to claw his way back up about 150' to semi flat ground. shwew
> Go John Deere!
THat must've been a sight. Too bad you didn't take video ;)
> The next thing to happen was breaking the propane line, twice.
> Fortunately I had already turned off the gas.
> No heat or hot water tonight, and its a little chilly outside (40's).
> It'll be fixed tomorrow.
>
> These ol' mountain boys showed me a new way to find water pipes under
> the ground.
> Water witching.
> No shit.
> I thought I was watching a UFO or a magician or sumfink.
> Amazing.
> The ol boy cut a Y shaped skinny branch and held it in his hands and
> walked across the yard and suddenly the Y started twitching and then
> dove toward the ground. I broke out laughing spontaneously. I don't
> play that shit. But there it was before my very eyes.
>
> I said, 'Oh come on now, what are you guys doing?' and everybody
> looked at me like, 'What the hells wrong with you?'
> I voiced my skepticism and then asked how it did it.
> I was told it has to do with the electricity in the human body and its
> reaction to water under the ground. Yeah right.
> So he handed me the branch.
>
> I positioned it in my hands like he had done and immediately I could
> feel something in my fingers. WTF
> It was like a very light vibration or very low level continuous shock
> like maybe 3 volts.
> They saw the branch reacting in my hands and everybody stepped back
> away from me in amazement and someone said 'Holy shit look at that,
> that boys full of electricity'.
From now on, we can call you "Sparky"!
OTOH we always knew you had the capacity to shock <LOL!>
> It was weird, man.
>
> I then started walking across the yard and that stick was going out of
> control.
> Bouncing up and down and moving side to side, like it was alive.
> I walked over the main water pipe and that stick dam near jumped out
> of my hands.
> They told me real big sources of underground water can force the bark
> off the branch.
>
> I ran in the house and got my wife and told her she has to see this.
> I handed her the stick and she was giggling and the stick physically
> twisted in her hands and pointed the end at me.
> She quickly handed it back to me and said that thing doesn't feel
> natural and went back in the house.
>
> Anybody experienced this stuff?
Other things that supposedly "don't happen".
>
> I don't believe in UFOs, alien abductions (with or without anal
> probing), magicians, astrology, ghosts or any of that kind of stuff.
> Not sure how to think about this thing.
Those are not all the same thing. It's a matter of viewpoint.
Re: dowsing/"water-witching", well, the human body does have some
electricity to it - c.f. "sharks" and "electromagnetic sense". Also
c.f. "electric eel". ((And I am not going to touch *that* class of puns
with, er, a 10-ft pole...)) Water is a great conductor, too. So, there
might be some way of explaining it - I just don't have the facts to
either support it, or reject it.
There are many things which people erroneously add into certain
classifications merely because they don't have enough info to classify
those things properly.
Belief is a form of classification system that is static; rather than
adapting to facts, it prefers to bend facts to fit into its own system.
Science - real Science, not junk science, not pseudo-science, not the
pigheaded brain-in-concrete belief that sometimes *passes* for science,
at least to people who aren't very knowledgeable - is, OTOH, a
fluid/flexible classification system which adapts and reorganizes in
response to new data. An imnportant part of science is =designing the
experiment=. It does happen that something might seem to be
"disproved", when what actually happened was that the experiment was
poorly designed, or was designed (either knowlingly, or subconcsiously)
to give a result that would fit in with the current paradigm - meaning,
"prove" the currently-popular set of pre-conceived notions. This is
where people such as the Forteans use flawed logic - they look at
explanations from the early 1900's as "proof" of some deep mystery, and
ignore or reject new data which render the "mystery" completely
explainable, reproducible, and even rather normal/common.
Those things are important to remember.
At the same time, science can neither prove nor disprove spirit, any
more than it can prove or disprove art, or love, because such things are
not quantifiable and simply do not fit into the equation, so to speak.
By the same token, just because we (humans) currently don't have proof
or evidence or a comprehensible explanation for a given phenomenon, that
does not mean it's "supernatural" or "mystical" or "paranormal" or
whatever. It's all part of the rich tapestry of Being Human ;)
Meanwhile, to re-calssify further: "magicians" are not a matter of
belief - "magic" is a skill - c.f. "legerdemain", literally, "sleight of
hand". Magic is about diverting people's attention so they aren't
looking at what is *actually* going on, so that the trick *appears* to
occur "magically". It is not "paranormal". As for UFOs, well, "UFO"
merely means "unidentified flying object". Anything you see in the sky,
and don't recognize, is technically a "UFO", to you at least. So that's
not "supernatural", either. And even *if* extraterrestrials visit here,
that still would not be "supernatural", it would merely be a case where
the current human understanding of science was not complete enough to
predictively explain the phenomenon of, for example, FTL travel. Real
Science, after all, is an act of creative imagination, because one
cannot ask a question if one cannot imagine a possibility 
Anyhoo, that is a snippet from "Kris' Theory of Everything" as it
related to dowsing, UFOs etc., and the classification of phenomena
according to belief versus according to science <g!>
Anyway, have fun with it ;) I hope it all turns out according to plan.
((Meanwhile, they're prepping the yard here today to pour the decking
for the pool. They had replaced all teh stone coping to get the right
grout color, and it's perfect now ;) ))
>
> They told me they expect to have the slab poured by Friday, but its
> supposed to rain on wednesday, so we'll see.
> I'm ordering the lumber package and trusses tomorrow. (can take up to
> a week to get the trusses delivered)
>
> My brother will be here on Wed, and hopefully this coming Sat the
> boards will be flyin'.
> I expect to have this dryed in in 6 days and the exterior complete in
> 2 weeks or less.
> The plumbers coming by in the morning and the electrician will be here
> on wed.
>
> Anyway, as soon as my son comes back from his world travels I'll try
> to get him to put the pics of the day up on my site.
>
> This stuffs exciting!
>
> My first real construction project from concept to completion and I am
> in complete control!
> HOO-AHHHH.........
>
| |
|
|
Don wrote:
> Welp, the day I've waited for for the past 5 months has finally ended and
> there's a rectangular ditch in my yard.
> Tomorrow footer concrete and steel will be flying.
>
> It started with the removal of 2 60' oak trees and 1 60' cedar, which were
> cut in 10' lengths and stacked in the side yard.
> I'll figure out what to do with them later.
>
> Then the backhoe jumped in gear.
> What a ride, in this Brown County clay thats as slick as greased owl shit.
> At one point it slid down over the edge, and kept going, all the way to the
> bottom.
> It was something else, watching it slide down what I was told was a 60
> degree incline (I think it was really about 45 degree) through dense forest,
> snapping sapplings along the way.
> The operator was dragging the claw-bucket and the outriggers in an effort to
> regain control, to no avail.
> All the way down.
> And the tires alone had no traction in the clay to come back up.
> He had to claw his way back up about 150' to semi flat ground. shwew
> Go John Deere!
>
> The next thing to happen was breaking the propane line, twice.
> Fortunately I had already turned off the gas.
> No heat or hot water tonight, and its a little chilly outside (40's).
> It'll be fixed tomorrow.
>
> These ol' mountain boys showed me a new way to find water pipes under the
> ground.
> Water witching.
> No shit.
> I thought I was watching a UFO or a magician or sumfink.
> Amazing.
> The ol boy cut a Y shaped skinny branch and held it in his hands and walked
> across the yard and suddenly the Y started twitching and then dove toward
> the ground. I broke out laughing spontaneously. I don't play that shit. But
> there it was before my very eyes.
>
> I said, 'Oh come on now, what are you guys doing?' and everybody looked at
> me like, 'What the hells wrong with you?'
> I voiced my skepticism and then asked how it did it.
> I was told it has to do with the electricity in the human body and its
> reaction to water under the ground. Yeah right.
> So he handed me the branch.
>
> I positioned it in my hands like he had done and immediately I could feel
> something in my fingers. WTF
> It was like a very light vibration or very low level continuous shock like
> maybe 3 volts.
> They saw the branch reacting in my hands and everybody stepped back away
> from me in amazement and someone said 'Holy shit look at that, that boys
> full of electricity'.
> It was weird, man.
>
> I then started walking across the yard and that stick was going out of
> control.
> Bouncing up and down and moving side to side, like it was alive.
> I walked over the main water pipe and that stick dam near jumped out of my
> hands.
> They told me real big sources of underground water can force the bark off
> the branch.
>
> I ran in the house and got my wife and told her she has to see this.
> I handed her the stick and she was giggling and the stick physically twisted
> in her hands and pointed the end at me.
> She quickly handed it back to me and said that thing doesn't feel natural
> and went back in the house.
>
> Anybody experienced this stuff?
>
> I don't believe in UFOs, alien abductions (with or without anal
probing),
> magicians, astrology, ghosts or any of that kind of stuff.
Not sure how to think about this thing.
An aethiest was out hunting and bigfoot jumped out and started running
towards him to attach him. The hunter took off and cried "God, save
me". A loud voice from heaven said "I thought you didn't believe it
me". The hunter shouted back, "well, until 30 seconds ago I didn't
believe in Bigfoot either".
>
> They told me they expect to have the slab poured by Friday, but its supposed
> to rain on wednesday, so we'll see.
> I'm ordering the lumber package and trusses tomorrow. (can take up to a week
> to get the trusses delivered)
>
> My brother will be here on Wed, and hopefully this coming Sat the boards
> will be flyin'.
> I expect to have this dryed in in 6 days and the exterior complete in 2
> weeks or less.
> The plumbers coming by in the morning and the electrician will be here on
> wed.
>
> Anyway, as soon as my son comes back from his world travels I'll try to get
> him to put the pics of the day up on my site.
>
> This stuffs exciting!
>
> My first real construction project from concept to completion and I am in
> complete control!
> HOO-AHHHH.........
Congratulation and welcome to the consumer side of cost overruns ;-)
| |
| Warm Worm 2006-09-27, 3:26 am |
|
"Don"
> Welp, the day I've waited for for the past 5 months has finally ended and
> there's a rectangular ditch in my yard.
> Tomorrow footer concrete and steel will be flying.
Don, do you have a camera? How about a pic or 2 each day from the exact same
location and point of view for the duration of the project? You could put
them all together afterward and have an animated time lapse.
> It started with the removal of 2 60' oak trees and 1 60' cedar, which were
> cut in 10' lengths and stacked in the side yard.
> I'll figure out what to do with them later.
60'!? Could you have left them be and built around them?
> snapping sapplings along the way.
> Go John Deere!
> I positioned it in my hands like he had done and immediately I could feel
> something in my fingers. WTF
> It was like a very light vibration or very low level continuous shock like
> maybe 3 volts.
> They saw the branch reacting in my hands and everybody stepped back away
> from me in amazement and someone said 'Holy shit look at that, that boys
> full of electricity'.
> It was weird, man.
Are you serious? I should investigate that online.
> I walked over the main water pipe and that stick dam near jumped out of my
> hands.
So you and they knew beforehand of the main pipe?
> Anyway, as soon as my son comes back from his world travels I'll try to
> get him to put the pics of the day up on my site.
>
> This stuffs exciting!
>
> My first real construction project from concept to completion and I am in
> complete control!
> HOO-AHHHH.........
Congrats, lawnboy... and good luck with it. Let's see many planted saplings
to more than replace what was lost and some time-lapse stuff.
| |
| RebarGuy 2006-09-27, 9:25 am |
| >
> It started with the removal of 2 60' oak trees and 1 60' cedar, which were
> cut in 10' lengths and stacked in the side yard.
> I'll figure out what to do with them later.
>
I would love to have that cedar, but I'm not driving all the way up there to
get it. We take cedars, cut a slice diagonally and make either a plaque out
of it, or trim out the center and make a really nice picture frame. Take
them to a county fair, and city folks pay good money for them, thinking they
have something special.
You can also cut a few blocks off of it, put them in a bag and sell to the
city folks to put in their closets to keep moths away. City folks are happy
to spend money on junk like this. If they are as gullible up there as they
are here in Georgia, you could make enough to pay for your project out of
that 1 cedar.
:-)
| |
|
|
"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
news:efa990012a4@news4.newsguy.com...
> Welp, the day I've waited for for the past 5 months has finally ended and
> there's a rectangular ditch in my yard.
> Tomorrow footer concrete and steel will be flying.
>
> It started with the removal of 2 60' oak trees and 1 60' cedar, which were
> cut in 10' lengths and stacked in the side yard.
> I'll figure out what to do with them later.
>
> Then the backhoe jumped in gear.
> What a ride, in this Brown County clay thats as slick as greased owl shit.
> At one point it slid down over the edge, and kept going, all the way to
> the bottom.
> It was something else, watching it slide down what I was told was a 60
> degree incline (I think it was really about 45 degree) through dense
> forest, snapping sapplings along the way.
> The operator was dragging the claw-bucket and the outriggers in an effort
> to regain control, to no avail.
> All the way down.
> And the tires alone had no traction in the clay to come back up.
> He had to claw his way back up about 150' to semi flat ground. shwew
> Go John Deere!
>
> The next thing to happen was breaking the propane line, twice.
> Fortunately I had already turned off the gas.
> No heat or hot water tonight, and its a little chilly outside (40's).
> It'll be fixed tomorrow.
>
> These ol' mountain boys showed me a new way to find water pipes under the
> ground.
> Water witching.
> No shit.
> I thought I was watching a UFO or a magician or sumfink.
> Amazing.
> The ol boy cut a Y shaped skinny branch and held it in his hands and
> walked across the yard and suddenly the Y started twitching and then dove
> toward the ground. I broke out laughing spontaneously. I don't play that
> shit. But there it was before my very eyes.
>
> I said, 'Oh come on now, what are you guys doing?' and everybody looked at
> me like, 'What the hells wrong with you?'
> I voiced my skepticism and then asked how it did it.
> I was told it has to do with the electricity in the human body and its
> reaction to water under the ground. Yeah right.
> So he handed me the branch.
>
> I positioned it in my hands like he had done and immediately I could feel
> something in my fingers. WTF
> It was like a very light vibration or very low level continuous shock like
> maybe 3 volts.
> They saw the branch reacting in my hands and everybody stepped back away
> from me in amazement and someone said 'Holy shit look at that, that boys
> full of electricity'.
> It was weird, man.
>
> I then started walking across the yard and that stick was going out of
> control.
> Bouncing up and down and moving side to side, like it was alive.
> I walked over the main water pipe and that stick dam near jumped out of my
> hands.
> They told me real big sources of underground water can force the bark off
> the branch.
>
> I ran in the house and got my wife and told her she has to see this.
> I handed her the stick and she was giggling and the stick physically
> twisted in her hands and pointed the end at me.
> She quickly handed it back to me and said that thing doesn't feel natural
> and went back in the house.
>
> Anybody experienced this stuff?
>
> I don't believe in UFOs, alien abductions (with or without anal probing),
> magicians, astrology, ghosts or any of that kind of stuff.
> Not sure how to think about this thing.
>
> They told me they expect to have the slab poured by Friday, but its
> supposed to rain on wednesday, so we'll see.
> I'm ordering the lumber package and trusses tomorrow. (can take up to a
> week to get the trusses delivered)
>
> My brother will be here on Wed, and hopefully this coming Sat the boards
> will be flyin'.
> I expect to have this dryed in in 6 days and the exterior complete in 2
> weeks or less.
> The plumbers coming by in the morning and the electrician will be here on
> wed.
>
> Anyway, as soon as my son comes back from his world travels I'll try to
> get him to put the pics of the day up on my site.
>
> This stuffs exciting!
>
> My first real construction project from concept to completion and I am in
> complete control!
> HOO-AHHHH.........
>
>
Had some guys up in Vermont do the same with me a few years back. Convinced
me completely. They used a willow stick. I also have seen 2, 12 ga bent
wires set loosely in metal tubing handles. Those suckers move fast!
EDS
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| "RebarGuy"> wrote
If they are as gullible up there as they
> are here in Georgia, you could make enough to pay for your project out of
> that 1 cedar.
They are, and I will. heh
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| Warm Worm 2006-09-28, 3:25 am |
| "Don"
"RebarGuy"
>
> We take cedars, cut a slice diagonally and make either a plaque out of
> it, or trim out the center and make a really nice picture frame. Take them
> to a county fair, and city folks pay good money for them, thinking they
> have something special.
> You can also cut a few blocks off of it, put them in a bag and sell to
> the city folks to put in their closets to keep moths away. City folks are
> happy to spend money on junk like this. If they are as gullible up there
> as they are here in Georgia, you could make enough to pay for your project
> out of that 1 cedar.
>
"Darwin's Nightmare" in a little way, in a little corner, of America.
Ah, capitalism... Come hell, high water, global warming, or "pigeon people".
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin%27s_Nightmare
" Take the only tree that's left and stuff it up the hole
in your culture..."
-- Leonard Cohen
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| "Warm Worm"> wrote
> "Darwin's Nightmare" in a little way, in a little corner, of America.
> Ah, capitalism... Come hell, high water, global warming, or "pigeon
> people".
>
> -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin%27s_Nightmare
>
> " Take the only tree that's left and stuff it up the hole
> in your culture..."
> -- Leonard Cohen
This is one area where my wife and I sort of disagree.
Even though there are what I estimate to be 10,000 trees on our land, I
don't want to harm/remove any of them.
Not even the dead ones for they too have a purpose in the forest.
In their time they will fall and assimilate into the environment, without my
help.
My wife on the otherhand would like to clear some of them out so as to have
more *usable* land.
So far I have been successful in not letting her do that.
One of the *design parameters* of building my garage was to NOT harm any
trees.
But it was literally impossible to do so, a few of them had to go.
You can't imagine how I played with the design back and forth in an effort
to efficiently place this building on the site.
I'm sure there is no other way to do this thing.
Right now it is impossible to see beyond our land because of the dense
forest all around, but as I speak the leaves are falling by the truckload
and in another month or two the trees will be bare and our neighbors will be
visible, and so will we, as nature plls away its protective shield of
foliage.
We will be naked, in a manner of speach.
After living for 4 decades in a place where trees are at an extreme
disadvantage I am very appreciative of all the benefit trees bring to the
table and I'm highly reluctant to surrender any of them to axe and saw.
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| Warm Worm 2006-09-28, 5:25 pm |
|
"Don"
> "Warm Worm"
>
> This is one area where my wife and I sort of disagree.
> Even though there are what I estimate to be 10,000 trees on our land, I
> don't want to harm/remove any of them.
> Not even the dead ones for they too have a purpose in the forest.
> In their time they will fall and assimilate into the environment, without
> my help.
> My wife on the otherhand would like to clear some of them out so as to
> have more *usable* land.
> So far I have been successful in not letting her do that.
>
> One of the *design parameters* of building my garage was to NOT harm any
> trees.
> But it was literally impossible to do so, a few of them had to go.
> You can't imagine how I played with the design back and forth in an effort
> to efficiently place this building on the site.
> I'm sure there is no other way to do this thing.
>
> Right now it is impossible to see beyond our land because of the dense
> forest all around, but as I speak the leaves are falling by the truckload
> and in another month or two the trees will be bare and our neighbors will
> be visible, and so will we, as nature plls away its protective shield of
> foliage.
> We will be naked, in a manner of speach.
>
> After living for 4 decades in a place where trees are at an extreme
> disadvantage I am very appreciative of all the benefit trees bring to the
> table and I'm highly reluctant to surrender any of them to axe and saw.
Well that's encouraging to read. Of course it's less than personal towards
you per se, so much as a convenience through which to present some
environmental concerns...
Last night, I had just finished viewing this "televised package" called "The
Big Picture" [ http://www.cbc.ca/bigpicture/planet.html ] -- pretty good
production-quality, including Avi Lewis, the host-- who seems to avoid
beating around the bush with the folks-- that included a documentary with
David Attenborough [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_attenborough ],
after which followed a panel discussion with a studio audience that included
some noteable personalities-- politicians & environmentalists, etc..
The panel's unanimity of agreement about the issues raised in the
documentary was somewhat surprising, if refreshing, as was the ostensible
fact that Attenborough, himself, had previously been a global-warming
sceptic.
For years and years, I've voted for our "leaders" (dislike that word leader
in that context, since I see politicians, ideally, more as our followers)
with 3 priorities in mind: The environment, education, and healthcare. The
conservatives won the last election, and, as mentioned last night on the
show, had 'environment' conspicuously missing from their election-platform!
Of course I voted for the Green Party.
There was an apparently environmentally-conscious Conservative member on the
panel who seemed to be inferring some good news with regard to their
policies in this regard, so time might tell.
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| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
news:efgf1t02mvv@news3.newsguy.com...
> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>
> This is one area where my wife and I sort of disagree.
> Even though there are what I estimate to be 10,000 trees on our land, I
> don't want to harm/remove any of them.
> Not even the dead ones for they too have a purpose in the forest.
> In their time they will fall and assimilate into the environment, without
> my help.
> My wife on the otherhand would like to clear some of them out so as to
> have more *usable* land.
> So far I have been successful in not letting her do that.
>
> One of the *design parameters* of building my garage was to NOT harm any
> trees.
> But it was literally impossible to do so, a few of them had to go.
> You can't imagine how I played with the design back and forth in an effort
> to efficiently place this building on the site.
> I'm sure there is no other way to do this thing.
>
> Right now it is impossible to see beyond our land because of the dense
> forest all around, but as I speak the leaves are falling by the truckload
> and in another month or two the trees will be bare and our neighbors will
> be visible, and so will we, as nature plls away its protective shield of
> foliage.
> We will be naked, in a manner of speach.
>
> After living for 4 decades in a place where trees are at an extreme
> disadvantage I am very appreciative of all the benefit trees bring to the
> table and I'm highly reluctant to surrender any of them to axe and saw.
>
Sounds like a fucking dream Don! Congrats, and lets see those pics. I'll
buy some cedar (I'm a city-folk) if it helps you along with your project
;-). But I'm not paying shipping!
--
Edgar
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