Architecture - Building a 2-story building.

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Building a 2-story building.

pdxTommy@gmail.com

2006-12-20, 3:25 am

Hi, If you are in construction, can u give me some advices on how I
can draw this up? Is there a user-friendly program that would let me
make a quick sketch??Please let me know, THankss
if I want to buid a
2-Story building:
12,000 SQFT of office spaces
1 high tech elevator
Length of hall way must be a minimum of 5'ft and 6'' inches
wide.
2 bathrooms
1 big office/lobby

Don

2006-12-20, 9:25 am

pdxTommy> wrote
> Hi, If you are in construction, can u give me some advices on how I
> can draw this up? Is there a user-friendly program that would let me
> make a quick sketch??Please let me know, THankss

Pencil & Paper

> if I want to buid a
> 2-Story building:
> 12,000 SQFT of office spaces
> 1 high tech elevator
> Length of hall way must be a minimum of 5'ft and 6'' inches
> wide.
> 2 bathrooms
> 1 big office/lobby

If this building is to be built then most definitely an architect will be
involved.
It would be wise to get him/her onboard immediately if you are serious about
this thing.
There's a lot of pre-stuff that needs to be considered BEFORE pencil ever
touches paper.

Pat

2006-12-20, 9:25 am

I agree with Don. As much as I hate architects :-p you need one.
You can't just draw something because there are way too many details
here. Architects spend their few sober days in college learning these
things so that they can go out and buy Volvos. For example, do you
know what size bathroom you need considering your usage and handicapped
requirements. What are the energy requirements around your front door.
What are your air, lighting, daylight and heating requirements. How
much space do you need for mechanicals and where should you put them.
What is the relationship of span width to cost. Where to the posts go.
Do you want trusses or not Why 12000 s.f.? How can you best get it
on the lot. What shape is the best.

You might want to sketch something on graph paper for the fun of it.
But go see an architect. You'll need one anyway, so why do a lot of
work and then just have them redo it all.

If you want to waste your time, Google has Sketch-up or something like
that at their website. But don't spend too much time on it. Your time
is better spent talking to your architect and explaining what you do
and how you do it (and tell them that you only have 75% of the amount
of money that you really have) so he/she hits your actual budget :-))

Don

2006-12-20, 1:25 pm

"Pat"> wrote
>I agree with Don. As much as I hate architects :-p you need one.
> You can't just draw something because there are way too many details
> here. Architects spend their few sober days in college learning these
> things so that they can go out and buy Volvos. For example, do you
> know what size bathroom you need considering your usage and handicapped
> requirements. What are the energy requirements around your front door.
> What are your air, lighting, daylight and heating requirements. How
> much space do you need for mechanicals and where should you put them.
> What is the relationship of span width to cost. Where to the posts go.
> Do you want trusses or not Why 12000 s.f.? How can you best get it
> on the lot. What shape is the best.
>
> You might want to sketch something on graph paper for the fun of it.
> But go see an architect. You'll need one anyway, so why do a lot of
> work and then just have them redo it all.
>
> If you want to waste your time, Google has Sketch-up or something like
> that at their website. But don't spend too much time on it. Your time
> is better spent talking to your architect and explaining what you do
> and how you do it (and tell them that you only have 75% of the amount
> of money that you really have) so he/she hits your actual budget :-))

Beeen awhile since I was involved with this stuff but there's a whole host
of issues that need to be addressed before the OP even start to think about
the building.
Here's a few:
1) The buildings eventual use.
2) Parking, which is largely determined by (1).
3) Green space. Landscaping. Sidewalks.
4) Retention areas. Where is the rain from the parking lot going to go?
5) Setbacks and other zoning requirements.

After all of these things have been calculated and subtracted from the
overall siteplan then the OP will know how much space he has to use for the
actual building.
He says he wants 12,000 sf but after deducting 1-5 above there may not be
enough space left to provide 12,000 sf in a 2 story model.
He may have to go to 3 story, which then may open a whole nuther issue
regarding access.

Then there's the deal about handicapped stuff, core mechanicals, shared
spaces, end use, etc., etc.

In this day and age this type of thing is far more complex than just 10-15
years ago and it needs to have people onboard that deal with this stuff all
the time.
And of course, the more complex the project the more important it is to deal
with local people that are more familiar with the pathways.

I think the key element in all of this is that magic thang called a
*development order*.
In SW FL you go nowhere real quick without one of those things.

Ken S. Tucker

2006-12-20, 1:25 pm

pdxTommy@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, If you are in construction, can u give me some advices on how I
> can draw this up? Is there a user-friendly program that would let me
> make a quick sketch??Please let me know, THankss
> if I want to buid a
> 2-Story building:
> 12,000 SQFT of office spaces
> 1 high tech elevator
> Length of hall way must be a minimum of 5'ft and 6'' inches
> wide.
> 2 bathrooms
> 1 big office/lobby

Are you an architecture student, we need
to know your angle in this ?
Ken

Kris Krieger

2007-01-06, 8:39 pm

"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
news:embbbt02ff2@news3.newsguy.com:

> pdxTommy> wrote
>
> Pencil & Paper

And here I thought you were going to suggest "crayons and a paper bag"
<LOL!>

((Sorry, I'm in a weird mood 2-nite. ;) ))

>
>
> If this building is to be built then most definitely an architect will
> be involved.
> It would be wise to get him/her onboard immediately if you are serious
> about this thing.
> There's a lot of pre-stuff that needs to be considered BEFORE pencil
> ever touches paper.
>
>
>

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On Dec 20 2006, 1:31 am, pdxTo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, If you are in construction, can u give me some advices on how I
> can draw this up? Is there a user-friendly program that would let me
> make a quick sketch??Please let me know, THankss
> if I want to buid a
> 2-Story building:
> 12,000 SQFT of office spaces
> 1 high tech elevator
> Length of hall way must be a minimum of 5'ft and 6'' inches
> wide.
> 2 bathrooms
> 1 big office/lobby

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