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Interesting wind turbine
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| Ken S. Tucker 2007-11-06, 1:25 pm |
| On Nov 6, 10:04 am, "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com>
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> http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1112/
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> We could use those with these Santa Ana winds around here. It all comes
> down to cost I guess.
> Edgar
>From reading the specs, I get these approximate
figures, (assumes $0.08/Kwh)
Average Wind Speed
40 mph => 2 Kw => $4.00/ day
20 mph => 0.5 Kw => $1.00/ day
10 mph => 125w => $0.25/ day
(Power output assumed proportional to Speed^2).
Wind power always comes down to average
wind speed.
Ken
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"Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in message
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> On Nov 6, 10:04 am, "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com>
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> figures, (assumes $0.08/Kwh)
> Average Wind Speed
> 40 mph => 2 Kw => $4.00/ day
> 20 mph => 0.5 Kw => $1.00/ day
> 10 mph => 125w => $0.25/ day
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> (Power output assumed proportional to Speed^2).
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> Wind power always comes down to average
> wind speed.
> Ken
Using those figures, on days like today we'd make some money, but the rest
of the year we'd be in the hole.
This shits in its infancy man.
There's got to be a better way, a more refined way.
Something like a thin wire, strung between two points, and the slightest
breeze would deflect (bend) that wire and in the process create an
electrical charge, or sumfink.
Maybe coat the wire with sand (silicate) and some other cool stuff to
enhance the whole thing (step up tranformer) and then aim it through a
reverse fresnal and a stack of magnifying mirrors and finally double coil it
in a vat of -300 degree nitrogen lined cryo-vats of 99% saline solution.
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| Ken S. Tucker 2007-11-06, 5:25 pm |
| On Nov 6, 11:36 am, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote in messagenews:1194376119.321186.216870@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
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> Using those figures, on days like today we'd make some money, but the rest
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> This shits in its infancy man.
Yup, were lucky to get a stiff 20 mph breeze
once a week. If I drilled a hole through the roof
and connected a wind turbine direct to my
new ceiling fan it would most just sit there.
> There's got to be a better way, a more refined way.
> Something like a thin wire, strung between two points, and the slightest
> breeze would deflect (bend) that wire and in the process create an
> electrical charge, or sumfink.
I read an article (many years ago) that using two
conducting screens would blow ions from one to
the other to create a voltage difference and a
current.
> Maybe coat the wire with sand (silicate) and some other cool stuff to
> enhance the whole thing (step up tranformer) and then aim it through a
> reverse fresnal and a stack of magnifying mirrors and finally double coil it
> in a vat of -300 degree nitrogen lined cryo-vats of 99% saline solution.
Well that's what we need, simple, straighforward
methods. I nominate Don for the Noble Prize!
Ken
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| "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in message
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> On Nov 6, 10:04 am, "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com>
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> figures, (assumes $0.08/Kwh)
> Average Wind Speed
> 40 mph => 2 Kw => $4.00/ day
> 20 mph => 0.5 Kw => $1.00/ day
> 10 mph => 125w => $0.25/ day
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> (Power output assumed proportional to Speed^2).
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> Wind power always comes down to average
> wind speed.
> Ken
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Interesting, thanks. Wouldn't be very economical at my house, hardly ever
get wind there. And the Santa Anas are usually a mile or two away from us,
and don't happen often enough. But when they do, man it can get up pretty
high. If they were cheap enough, they could just line the center divider
all the way down Interstate 15 here in Cali, from San Diego all the way to
Las Vegas. That would be kind of cool.
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Edgar
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"Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in message
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> On Nov 6, 11:36 am, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:
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> Yup, were lucky to get a stiff 20 mph breeze
> once a week. If I drilled a hole through the roof
> and connected a wind turbine direct to my
> new ceiling fan it would most just sit there.
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> I read an article (many years ago) that using two
> conducting screens would blow ions from one to
> the other to create a voltage difference and a
> current.
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> Well that's what we need, simple, straighforward
> methods. I nominate Don for the Noble Prize!
algore got one for blowin hot air.......
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"Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynamics@vianet.on.ca> wrote in message
> news:1194376119.321186.216870@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
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> Interesting, thanks. Wouldn't be very economical at my house, hardly ever
> get wind there. And the Santa Anas are usually a mile or two away from
> us, and don't happen often enough. But when they do, man it can get up
> pretty high. If they were cheap enough, they could just line the center
> divider all the way down Interstate 15 here in Cali, from San Diego all
> the way to Las Vegas. That would be kind of cool.
Think *wi-fi power transfer*.
What if a low level satellite has 10 billion mobile wind turbines tethered
to it and could move around, and when a hurricane appeared in the caribbean
it would release the turbines directly over the hurricane and they would
descend into it, slowing it down, and at the same time converting all that
wind into electricity and then wi-fi the juice down to the ground station.
That would do 2 things at once, harness and downsize the hurricane and
convert its awesome power into something useable.
A wind-wind situation. heh
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| 3D Peruna 2007-11-06, 5:25 pm |
| Don wrote:
> There's got to be a better way, a more refined way.
> Something like a thin wire, strung between two points, and the slightest
> breeze would deflect (bend) that wire and in the process create an
> electrical charge, or sumfink.
Actually, there is a guy who's come up with a system like that.... It's
a ribbon stretched tight. The wind blows over it and causes it to
vibrate, which then generates electricity at both ends... If I can find
the link, I'll post it up...
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| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
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> "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Think *wi-fi power transfer*.
> What if a low level satellite has 10 billion mobile wind turbines tethered
> to it and could move around, and when a hurricane appeared in the
> caribbean it would release the turbines directly over the hurricane and
> they would descend into it, slowing it down, and at the same time
> converting all that wind into electricity and then wi-fi the juice down to
> the ground station.
> That would do 2 things at once, harness and downsize the hurricane and
> convert its awesome power into something useable.
> A wind-wind situation. heh
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I like it.  We'd have fun designing the impenetrable Hurricane beating
ground station right in the most common path of hurricanes. Or maybe make
the station itself a big turbine that lifts off and parachutes back down.
Look out below!
I like the Interstate 15 because the entire thing is like one huge wind
tunnel most of the time. Either that or lets put a damn high speed train so
I can get to Vegas in 2 hours already .
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Edgar
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Edgar wrote:
>http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1112/
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>We could use those with these Santa Ana winds around here. It all comes
>down to cost I guess.
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It comes down to mass production of renewable tools.
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| Kris Krieger 2007-11-17, 5:25 pm |
| "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in news:4730a0cf$0
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> http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1112/
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> We could use those with these Santa Ana winds around here. It all comes
> down to cost I guess.
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I's thought that California qas the largest user/producer of wind power in
the USA...
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| "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in news:4730a0cf$0
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> I's thought that California qas the largest user/producer of wind power in
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We have a lot here, int eh Palm Springs area, and quite a few other places.
Not sure if we are the largest, I think some state recently set up something
huge that would have probably surpassed us, it's not coming to mind at the
moment.
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Edgar
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| Kris Krieger 2007-11-21, 5:25 pm |
| "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> We have a lot here, int eh Palm Springs area, and quite a few other
> places. Not sure if we are the largest, I think some state recently
> set up something huge that would have probably surpassed us, it's not
> coming to mind at the moment.
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It'd have to be Texas!
Actually, just kidding - I dunno. But a lot fo Texas is Plains, and I know
there is *some* wind generation here, jsut can't recall much about it off
the top of my head.
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