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| house@bolaris.com 2007-11-21, 5:25 pm |
| Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
on my blog at http://casasolana.blogspot.com and tell me what you
think.
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| 3D Peruna 2007-11-21, 5:25 pm |
| house@bolaris.com wrote:
> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog at http://casasolana.blogspot.com and tell me what you
> think.
Let the games begin!
1) Garage isn't nearly deep enough.
2) No "entry" just a space (maybe that' the entry, but it doesn't feel
like it.
3) Bathrooms are all screwed up, both floors.
4) Door swings are messed up in most places.
5) It looks like you're living in a garage.
6) Where does the furniture go? (the couches on the main floor just
don't work.
That's the first 30 seconds... I'm not sure it's worth doing more
without resolve some of the bigger issues first...
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-21, 5:25 pm |
| <house@bolaris.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog at http://casasolana.blogspot.com and tell me what you
> think.
Sorry, but your design is really poor. You haven't drawn any furniture, so I
think you have no idea how big, or small, these spaces are. Many of them are
way off the mark, and the whole thing is terribly organized. Sorry if that
comes off as too harsh.
If you're going to use an architect, I suggest that you throw this out,
uninstall the software you used, and forget about it. Tell him/her what you
want, and let him figure out how to design it. Then keep an open, yet
critical, mind when you see his/her design.
It's fun to imagine things, but I think you haven't appreciated how
complicated a good building is. If your architect is any good at all, he/she
will astound you with all the things they considered and resolved. You can
have much better than this.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
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| On Nov 21, 3:41 pm, ho...@bolaris.com wrote:
> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog athttp://casasolana.blogspot.comand tell me what you
> think.
To start with, I am not an architect and I don't even play one on TV.
Second off, I, in general, think architects are PITAs who are arrogant
paper-pushers who wouldn't know how to build a building if you dumped
a load of lumber on them. They are over paid, under-knowledgeable,
and pretty useless to most people.
Now, after seeing your plans I have had an ephiphany. While used to
think that all architects were generally useless and unimaginative, I
have to admit that I've never seen anyone who needs one quite as badly
as you do. The plans are.... what is the word ... HORRIBLE.
I mean, to start with, who designs a house without a front door? To
allow a guest in, what do you plan on doing -- having them enter
though the garage and laundry?
And I know that some people in this group like their fair share of
vitamin D, but they even draw the line as having a window in their
shower?
What's up with the stairway? I've never seen anything quite like it.
Just out of curiosity, with all of the windows, have you run this
thing through Rescheck?
You should go study some floorplans until you find one you like. Then
go find who designed it and hire him/her.
In the mean time, can you get a refund for the design software? Tell
the store it doesn't work right.
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| Chuck News 2007-11-22, 3:25 am |
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<house@bolaris.com> wrote in message
news:6f504278-2a38-4543-b3f9-5ef8a47b4303@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog at http://casasolana.blogspot.com and tell me what you
> think.
I agree with most of the responses except the last. Do, get an architect to
design your home. You will be much happier. Make sure that when you select
an architect that they are predominately residential. Do some research on
residences that they have previously designed to see if you like there
concepts. There are a lot of things to be considered almost 90% for which
you didn't provide in your sketches. The good thing about having an
architect you can tell him what you want and let him/her provide the design
then you have a chance to tell him you like or dislike portions of the
design which then can be changed to fit your preference. And yes, you will
have to pay for the architects' fees but it will be worth it.
____________________________________________________________
Charles I. Dinsmore, PE SE RA, M.ASCE ~ ci.dinsmore@gmail.com
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| RicodJour 2007-11-22, 9:25 am |
| On Nov 21, 3:41 pm, ho...@bolaris.com wrote:
> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog athttp://casasolana.blogspot.comand tell me what you
> think.
I'd only change two things - the inside and the outside. Oh, three
things - fire the designer as they're not competent.
You're spinning your wheels. From the design archives it's obvious
you've fallen into the neophyte designer trap - creating something and
getting married to the idea and then not changing what desperately
needs to be changed.
The near future - when the designer is hired - will hopefully come
sooner rather than later.
R
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<house@bolaris.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog at http://casasolana.blogspot.com and tell me what you
> think.
See what happens when you make cheap assed gaming software disguised as a
design program available to the open market?
You end up with ethically challenged, neophytes with way to much time on
their hands and no meaningful direction in life bombarding the masses with
embarrassing 5 minute efforts of self inflated goofiness.
Back in the early 90's the media created a huge ground swell of
misinformation claiming a few mouse clix will make everyone a creative
genius instantly with little or no effort and that marketing ploy exists to
this very day.
Instead of wasting $40 on Punch he should have bought a quarter ounce of
mesc and found himself.
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| Jude Alexander 2007-11-22, 9:25 am |
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<house@bolaris.com> wrote in message
news:6f504278-2a38-4543-b3f9-5ef8a47b4303@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog at http://casasolana.blogspot.com and tell me what you
> think.
Honestly, it's a nightmare. There are spatial problems (inadequate space
for some areas and vice versa for others) and missing elements all over the
place even given the fact that you want to have a simple rectangle house.
Don't get married to your own design ideas that put you at odds with a
designer who is only trying to be on your side and tell you that such and
such won't work. I fact this problem too many times.
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"Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> <house@bolaris.com> wrote in message
> news:6f504278-2a38-4543-b3f9-5ef8a47b4303@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> Honestly, it's a nightmare. There are spatial problems (inadequate space
> for some areas and vice versa for others) and missing elements all over
> the place even given the fact that you want to have a simple rectangle
> house. Don't get married to your own design ideas that put you at odds
> with a designer who is only trying to be on your side and tell you that
> such and such won't work. I fact this problem too many times.
Your eraser (or delete button) is your best friend. A saying all architects
should learn early.
EDS
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-22, 1:25 pm |
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> To start with, I am not an architect and I don't even play one on TV.
> Second off, I, in general, think architects are PITAs who are arrogant
> paper-pushers who wouldn't know how to build a building if you dumped
> a load of lumber on them. They are over paid, under-knowledgeable,
> and pretty useless to most people.
>
> Now, after seeing your plans I have had an ephiphany. While used to
> think that all architects were generally useless and unimaginative, I
> have to admit...<snip>
Well, that tells us what you used to think. What do you think now?
I remember being disappointed soon after meeting my first year class. There
were only a few ubermensch in the entire group when I expected a menagerie
out of Marvel comics. Some of them were downright average.
I've recently spent a bunch of time organizing the 2500 architects of
Ontario, and so I got to meet a bunch of them. After all that, I'd still
have to say that I'm a bit disappointed with them *as a whole*, but I could
never dispute that a relatively high percentage of them were quite smart,
multi-talented, and creative problem-solvers, compared to say
'paraprofessional designers'. The fact that they can earn way more money
with those skills outside architecture is a perennial problem for the
profession, as many of the smarter ones pack it in sooner or later. The
weaker ones do to, but for different reasons.
If you've had as bad a time as you make out, I'd say someone hasn't been
picking their consultants very well.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-22, 1:25 pm |
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"EDS" <snowed@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
> news:L5h1j.6124$215.3591@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
> Your eraser (or delete button) is your best friend. A saying all
> architects should learn early.
> EDS
I never erase. I crumple. (I draw in ink.)
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| Ken S. Tucker 2007-11-22, 1:25 pm |
| On Nov 21, 12:41 pm, ho...@bolaris.com wrote:
> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog athttp://casasolana.blogspot.comand tell me what you
> think.
Designing a house is a personal thing, but
you'll want to maintain "curb appeal" and
resaleability.
Here's a trick. You the Mrs could take a drive
around and look for houses for sale that you
like, then get the agent to give you a tour.
Note what you like, and if it's close to what you
want, get the architects name and have him
change it for you.
Why reinvent the wheel for something that size?
We just designed and built a modest house,
and there are a LOT of details, but it worked well.
Good Luck
Ken
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| On Nov 22, 11:01 am, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:
> "Pat" <gro...@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> news:07af8c23-c633-4f02-b960-c0e9b8af5ca1@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> Well, that tells us what you used to think. What do you think now?
>
> I remember being disappointed soon after meeting my first year class. There
> were only a few ubermensch in the entire group when I expected a menagerie
> out of Marvel comics. Some of them were downright average.
>
> I've recently spent a bunch of time organizing the 2500 architects of
> Ontario, and so I got to meet a bunch of them. After all that, I'd still
> have to say that I'm a bit disappointed with them *as a whole*, but I could
> never dispute that a relatively high percentage of them were quite smart,
> multi-talented, and creative problem-solvers, compared to say
> 'paraprofessional designers'. The fact that they can earn way more money
> with those skills outside architecture is a perennial problem for the
> profession, as many of the smarter ones pack it in sooner or later. The
> weaker ones do to, but for different reasons.
>
> If you've had as bad a time as you make out, I'd say someone hasn't been
> picking their consultants very well.
> --
>
> MichaelBwww.michaelbulatovich.ca
Geez, Louise.
You found 2500 architects and not one, I guess, had a sense of
sarcasm. <head banging on desk>. Go to >View>Menus>Sarcasm Meter and
turn it to "on", then reread my post.
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| On Nov 21, 3:41 pm, ho...@bolaris.com wrote:
> Hi all, I'm looking for anyone willing to look at my house plans and
> give me some feedback. I'd really like to know what people think are
> the biggest problems with my current floor plans.
>
> I'm planning to hire an architect or home designer in the near future,
> but for now I just want to get informed and have fun exploring some
> possibilities for my dream house. So please, take a look at the plans
> on my blog athttp://casasolana.blogspot.comand tell me what you
> think.
Just for fun, I imported your design into Sim City. The family
refused to move in and are now homeless. You can find them walking
the Sim Streets asking to move in with someone else. If you want to
catch up with them, they're living in the city mission.
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| Jude Alexander 2007-11-22, 1:25 pm |
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"EDS" <snowed@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> Your eraser (or delete button) is your best friend. A saying all
> architects should learn early.
IF you're saying that it's a good thing to let go sometimes, I hardily agree
for both client & architect.
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>I'd only change two things - the inside and the outside.
I particularly like the south elevation, with *seven* different window styles
and sizes.
--
Dennis
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>I particularly like the south elevation, with *seven* different window styles
>and sizes.
Oops, north elevation.
--
Dennis
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-22, 5:25 pm |
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> On Nov 22, 11:01 am, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:
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> Geez, Louise.
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> You found 2500 architects and not one, I guess, had a sense of
> sarcasm. <head banging on desk>. Go to >View>Menus>Sarcasm Meter and
> turn it to "on", then reread my post.
Oh. Shoulda used a shmiley. So then you really love us and think we work to
cheap?
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-22, 5:25 pm |
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> IF you're saying that it's a good thing to let go sometimes, I hardily
> agree for both client & architect.
In school we used to say, "Sometimes you have to throw out your babies."
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| On Nov 22, 2:35 pm, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:
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No. I think you're basically like a bunch of prostitute -- doing what
some people can do for themselves while charging way too much money
for it for the service. But for other people, it's a needed service
and is probably worth the money -- especially if they are lacking in
creativity.
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| On Nov 22, 1:27 pm, dthompson4...@SPAMwowway.com (DT) wrote:
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> I particularly like the south elevation, with *seven* different window styles
> and sizes.
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> --
> Dennis
I particularly like the HUGE window in the shower in the master bath.
I'm sure his wife will enjoy it, too.
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-23, 9:25 am |
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> On Nov 22, 2:35 pm, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:
>
> No. I think you're basically like a bunch of prostitute -- doing what
> some people can do for themselves while charging way too much money
> for it for the service. But for other people, it's a needed service
> and is probably worth the money -- especially if they are lacking in
> creativity.
Some people could represent themselves in court, and others could amputate
their own limbs.....but not many. We do what (a very few) people could do
for themselves, just faster and better....just about like every other
service business.
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| RicodJour 2007-11-23, 1:25 pm |
| On Nov 23, 9:11 am, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:
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> Some people could represent themselves in court, and others could amputate
> their own limbs.....but not many. We do what (a very few) people could do
> for themselves, just faster and better....just about like every other
> service business.
Everyone that thinks they can do something - as opposed to the people
that really can - believes that the people that really can
overcharge.
It's like driving. Everyone thinks they're a good driver, but it's
obvious from a cursory examination of driving that maybe a third are
good drivers, another third haven't messed up during the observation
period, and the last third lives in Indiana and work out of the garage
or live in the NY hinterlands where the only thing they can hit with
the car are trees.  ~
R
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| Jude Alexander 2007-11-23, 1:25 pm |
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> "Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> In school we used to say, "Sometimes you have to throw out your babies."
Oh, with the dirty water? lol
The worst of the worst in my experience is a 20 y/o woman & 25 y/o man
building a 4,300 square foot house. They now live in an apartment, one
works a good job at Dow and the other getting an accounting degree. They
don't need a broom closet. Oh, they'll just put the vacuum in one of their
W.I. closets and the mop & broom (whatever) will go in the linen closet in
the Utility Room. I asked what about if you get a carpet cleaner. Oh,
we'll never get one of those. I don't need a broom closet. They also MADE
me put in THREE side doors on the right elevation, two of which are about 4
feet apart. I hate working for retards. I try to a point to convince them
of some things but, at some point, you HAVE to let the igmos have their way.
I also have to explain to people all too often that when I give advice, it's
based on 2 years drafting college, 5 year architect degree and 18 years
experience and that it's NOT about who "wins" or being in control. It's
about pragmatic, common sense that some people don't have most of the time.
What can you do but take the $ and run. I'm on THEIR side but if they're
not open to logic and reason, then you're screwed and have to do ridiculous
details. I have had to learn how to let go plenty, let me tell ya.
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-23, 5:25 pm |
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"Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> "Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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> Oh, with the dirty water? lol
Exactly. Sometimes you have to throw the whole thing out.
> The worst of the worst in my experience is a 20 y/o woman & 25 y/o man
> building a 4,300 square foot house. They now live in an apartment, one
> works a good job at Dow and the other getting an accounting degree. They
> don't need a broom closet. Oh, they'll just put the vacuum in one of
> their W.I. closets and the mop & broom (whatever) will go in the linen
> closet in the Utility Room. I asked what about if you get a carpet
> cleaner. Oh, we'll never get one of those. I don't need a broom closet.
> They also MADE me put in THREE side doors on the right elevation, two of
> which are about 4 feet apart. I hate working for retards. I try to a
> point to convince them of some things but, at some point, you HAVE to let
> the igmos have their way. I also have to explain to people all too often
> that when I give advice, it's based on 2 years drafting college, 5 year
> architect degree and 18 years experience and that it's NOT about who
> "wins" or being in control. It's about pragmatic, common sense that some
> people don't have most of the time. What can you do but take the $ and
> run. I'm on THEIR side but if they're not open to logic and reason, then
> you're screwed and have to do ridiculous details. I have had to learn how
> to let go plenty, let me tell ya.
Been there, done that, etc.
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"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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> On Nov 22, 2:35 pm, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:
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> No. I think you're basically like a bunch of prostitute -- doing what
> some people can do for themselves while charging way too much money
> for it for the service. But for other people, it's a needed service
> and is probably worth the money -- especially if they are lacking in
> creativity.
I gotta admit, about 80% of the houses I've *designed* could have been done
by just about anybody, cept for one thing.
The *process* will beat you to death unless you've navigated the system a
few hundred times.
Drive around, look out the windows, most of the stuff you see out there is
embarrassing.
Thats what I'm talking about.
Resale value?
Again, 80% aren't concerned with it, buying or selling.
I've seen the ugliest cribs in the world sell, and there's no lack of
anxious people standing in line to skarf that ugly shit right up.
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 23, 9:11 am, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:
>
> Everyone that thinks they can do something - as opposed to the people
> that really can - believes that the people that really can
> overcharge.
>
> It's like driving. Everyone thinks they're a good driver, but it's
> obvious from a cursory examination of driving that maybe a third are
> good drivers, another third haven't messed up during the observation
> period, and the last third lives in Indiana and work out of the garage
> or live in the NY hinterlands where the only thing they can hit with
> the car are trees. ~
And deers.
If I got a choice though I'll hit the tree.
You sorry, so and so......ha!
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| Jude Alexander 2007-11-24, 8:25 pm |
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"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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> "Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> Exactly. Sometimes you have to throw the whole thing out.
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> Been there, done that, etc.
Same retards (I'm presently designing the thing): No living upstairs
but the bozo wants stairs in the Foyer. Well, the bozo changed the Den
height from 9 to 12 foot. (directly behind the Foyer) and so I told him we'd
have to create wrap-around stairs. Igmo doesn't want that. So, I give the
igmo the "L" shaped stairs he INSISTS on having (it's the only thing that
will make him happy...) with 9.5" treads & 9" risers, all freaking 16 of
'3m. The retard is happy. Ridiculous stairs going to no living space.
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"Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> "Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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> Same retards (I'm presently designing the thing): No living
> upstairs but the bozo wants stairs in the Foyer. Well, the bozo changed
> the Den height from 9 to 12 foot. (directly behind the Foyer) and so I
> told him we'd have to create wrap-around stairs. Igmo doesn't want that.
> So, I give the igmo the "L" shaped stairs he INSISTS on having (it's the
> only thing that will make him happy...) with 9.5" treads & 9" risers, all
> freaking 16 of '3m. The retard is happy. Ridiculous stairs going to no
> living space.
Sometimes a Code that allows only a 7" riser is an argument saver. "The Code
says so!!!!"
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| Jude Alexander 2007-11-24, 9:25 pm |
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"EDS" <snowed@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> Sometimes a Code that allows only a 7" riser is an argument saver. "The
> Code says so!!!!"
Yes, in the Parish (Lousiana) that I'm in the highest riser is 8 1/4" but
these igmos are building in Plaquemine Parish, more southerly and codes only
apply going to living areas. Thus, the igmos get their ridiculous stairs
going nowhere. I hate working for retards who, no matter how ridiculous,
they're going to get their way. I find that so pathetic that some people
can't get beyond such undeveloped egotistical empty "wins." I kept telling
him, he's going to regret having to go up such steep steps bring up unused
furniture, etc. to the attic storage. I just don't understand people who
are closed to logical advice. It's GOT to be all about perceived winning.
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-25, 5:25 pm |
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"EDS" <snowed@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
> news:j142j.1572$L%6.56@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Sometimes a Code that allows only a 7" riser is an argument saver. "The
> Code says so!!!!"
Yeah, but if you have to reach for that one, you're already up to your
armpits in trouble.
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-11-25, 5:25 pm |
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"Jude Alexander" <A cajun@thebayou.wet> wrote in message
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> "Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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> Same retards (I'm presently designing the thing): No living
> upstairs but the bozo wants stairs in the Foyer. Well, the bozo changed
> the Den height from 9 to 12 foot. (directly behind the Foyer) and so I
> told him we'd have to create wrap-around stairs. Igmo doesn't want that.
> So, I give the igmo the "L" shaped stairs he INSISTS on having (it's the
> only thing that will make him happy...) with 9.5" treads & 9" risers, all
> freaking 16 of '3m. The retard is happy. Ridiculous stairs going to no
> living space.
In my experience, the stair (location and type), when placed in the
allowable envelope, generates a house plan. Clients who insist on a
particular stair type, without knowing he consequences on a particular lot,
are standing in their own light.
When I used to do spec housing, the first thing I'd do to generate a
different model on the same lot was change the stair, and then follow the
logic to the conclusion.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
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