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| Can you play a Blu-Ray disc on a standard DVD player?
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| Don wrote:
> Can you play a Blu-Ray disc on a standard DVD player?
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I cannot. But then again, I do not own one of either.
My kids have a DVD player but I have no idea about a blu-ray disc. But
I doubt you can do so, or why would blu-ray be anything special. You
are more likely to be able to play a regular DVD on a blu-ray thingy.
I'm just getting comfortable with blue tooth.
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| "Pat"> wrote
> Don wrote:
> I cannot. But then again, I do not own one of either.
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> My kids have a DVD player but I have no idea about a blu-ray disc. But I
> doubt you can do so, or why would blu-ray be anything special. You are
> more likely to be able to play a regular DVD on a blu-ray thingy.
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> I'm just getting comfortable with blue tooth.
Rembrandt will square ya up pronto.
Stop eating them squid ink sushi's.
My thinking is, I have an HDTV but its connected to a non-HD source and it
shows regular stuff.
Same with our DVD player.
Guess I'll just have to get a blu-ray disc and try it.
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| Kris Krieger 2008-03-27, 3:25 am |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
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> Can you play a Blu-Ray disc on a standard DVD player?
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I don't think so - I don't think it can read/descramble/whatever the data.
You can play BlueRay on a PlayStation3, tho', which is one of the ways they
try to get poeple to pay the high price of the things - IOW, not just a
game machine, also a player. I dunno whether the PS3 will play regular
DVDs, tho'...
Too darn many different proprietary thingies...
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| Chuck News 2008-03-27, 3:25 am |
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"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
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> Can you play a Blu-Ray disc on a standard DVD player?
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Don't know , doubt it. You can play a standard DVD on a Blu-Ray player
though. I have one and it works.
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"Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
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> I don't think so - I don't think it can read/descramble/whatever the data.
Thats what I was wondering.
> You can play BlueRay on a PlayStation3, tho', which is one of the ways
> they
> try to get poeple to pay the high price of the things - IOW, not just a
> game machine, also a player. I dunno whether the PS3 will play regular
> DVDs, tho'...
Don't have a PS3 nor intend to get one.
We have an Xbox and I've played it exactly 1 time.
My wife won it in a contest at sears about 6 years ago.
> Too darn many different proprietary thingies...
You know it man, and you have to keep throwing money at it with no idea what
the end result is.
Right now I'm backwards $1000 for an HDTV but my satellite receiver is
non-HD so I can only see regular stuff and it doesn't look that good.
Last night I broke down and bought a set of composite video cables for $50
and I'll see if that makes it any better.
Our satellite company (Direct TV) wants $99 for (1) new HD satellite
receiver, $99 for installation and then $9.99 MORE per month for that
priviledge.
(we're already paying $50/mth for our regular stuff)
Then, we'll need to buy an HD DVD player too.
jayziss.....
We just don't watch the stuff that much, me?-maybe 1 hour a day at most, and
maybe 2-3 movies from netflix per month.
Looks like the stuff is priced for people that do it alot and the casual
user is basically fukked.....
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| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
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> Thats what I was wondering.
>
>
> Don't have a PS3 nor intend to get one.
> We have an Xbox and I've played it exactly 1 time.
> My wife won it in a contest at sears about 6 years ago.
>
>
> You know it man, and you have to keep throwing money at it with no idea
> what the end result is.
> Right now I'm backwards $1000 for an HDTV but my satellite receiver is
> non-HD so I can only see regular stuff and it doesn't look that good.
> Last night I broke down and bought a set of composite video cables for $50
> and I'll see if that makes it any better.
> Our satellite company (Direct TV) wants $99 for (1) new HD satellite
> receiver, $99 for installation and then $9.99 MORE per month for that
> priviledge.
> (we're already paying $50/mth for our regular stuff)
> Then, we'll need to buy an HD DVD player too.
> jayziss.....
> We just don't watch the stuff that much, me?-maybe 1 hour a day at most,
> and maybe 2-3 movies from netflix per month.
> Looks like the stuff is priced for people that do it alot and the casual
> user is basically fukked.....
>
The answer is no, you cannot play Blueray on a DVD player. DVDs use a red
laser diode, BlueRay uses a blue laser that has a smaller wavelength, thus
allowing a smaller "line" or "groove" in the disk which allows more data to
be put on the same amount of surface area. You are definitely going to need
an HD source cause with a new HDTV standard def just won't cut it. So if
you want the goods your gonna have to pay Direct TV for it. And again, do
not get HD-DVD confused with Blue-ray. Same high definition, two totally
different proprietary standards. So don't be bamboozled by someone who is
trying to unload boxloads of HD-DVD players and think your going to play
Blue-ray movies on it. It won't work. You need a Blue-Ray player. HD-DVD
is dead, gone, and buried, the one who invented it, Toshiba, is backing down
from the format wars, and Blue ray is the winner, period, end of story.
You'll find HD-DVD players at a 70% discount some places. Well if you like
a limited movie set, go for it, but future movies won't be coming out on
HD-DVD.
And just for the record, while you may not play any games on it, the
Playstation 3 is actually the cheapest and most upgradeable BlueRay player
out there right now. The firmware is upgradeable, it has internet access
built in, and hey, if you get the urge you might just want to shoot some
aliens or browse the web when your not watching BlueRay movies.
Blue ray players are currently at version 1.0 or 1.2. The Playstation 3 has
recently been upgraded (or will be upgraded very soon, I don't own one
currently) through downloadable firmware to BlueRay 2.0, which gives the
movies much more interactivity, especially if you have it hooked up to the
internet. No other player on the market has BlueRay 2.0, and they won't be
coming out for a few months. Additionally, they will cost about 100 bucks
more than the PS3 when they do come out (so I hear, but you know how it
works with MSRP numbers). But of course the 1.0 and 1.2 versions work just
as well and might be cheaper than the PS3 right now, but will never have the
option of adding features in the future. The cheapest PS3 with a 40GB hard
drive costs about 399.99. It has a Playstation store available that lets
you download other things (which may include full length movies at some
point). The hard drive is user upgradeable so put a terabyte drive in there
is you like, and use it for looking at pictures on the drive or watching
movies you download, etc, etc. Sheesh I sound like I work for Sony (but I
don't).
The cheapest blue ray player I saw was at Costco and was like $299 or $349
or something. Probably a much older model than the new stuff.
Hope that helps!
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Edgar
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"Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47ebcfde$0$26050$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
> news:fsfvqo012mh@news2.newsguy.com...
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> The answer is no, you cannot play Blueray on a DVD player. DVDs use a red
> laser diode, BlueRay uses a blue laser that has a smaller wavelength, thus
> allowing a smaller "line" or "groove" in the disk which allows more data
> to be put on the same amount of surface area. You are definitely going to
> need an HD source cause with a new HDTV standard def just won't cut it.
> So if you want the goods your gonna have to pay Direct TV for it. And
> again, do not get HD-DVD confused with Blue-ray. Same high definition,
> two totally different proprietary standards. So don't be bamboozled by
> someone who is trying to unload boxloads of HD-DVD players and think your
> going to play Blue-ray movies on it. It won't work. You need a Blue-Ray
> player. HD-DVD is dead, gone, and buried, the one who invented it,
> Toshiba, is backing down from the format wars, and Blue ray is the winner,
> period, end of story. You'll find HD-DVD players at a 70% discount some
> places. Well if you like a limited movie set, go for it, but future
> movies won't be coming out on HD-DVD.
>
> And just for the record, while you may not play any games on it, the
> Playstation 3 is actually the cheapest and most upgradeable BlueRay player
> out there right now. The firmware is upgradeable, it has internet access
> built in, and hey, if you get the urge you might just want to shoot some
> aliens or browse the web when your not watching BlueRay movies.
>
> Blue ray players are currently at version 1.0 or 1.2. The Playstation 3
> has recently been upgraded (or will be upgraded very soon, I don't own one
> currently) through downloadable firmware to BlueRay 2.0, which gives the
> movies much more interactivity, especially if you have it hooked up to the
> internet. No other player on the market has BlueRay 2.0, and they won't
> be coming out for a few months. Additionally, they will cost about 100
> bucks more than the PS3 when they do come out (so I hear, but you know how
> it works with MSRP numbers). But of course the 1.0 and 1.2 versions work
> just as well and might be cheaper than the PS3 right now, but will never
> have the option of adding features in the future. The cheapest PS3 with a
> 40GB hard drive costs about 399.99. It has a Playstation store available
> that lets you download other things (which may include full length movies
> at some point). The hard drive is user upgradeable so put a terabyte
> drive in there is you like, and use it for looking at pictures on the
> drive or watching movies you download, etc, etc. Sheesh I sound like I
> work for Sony (but I don't).
>
> The cheapest blue ray player I saw was at Costco and was like $299 or $349
> or something. Probably a much older model than the new stuff.
>
> Hope that helps!
Yeah, it does.
So blu-ray DVD players won't play older DVD's?
If not, somebody should make a player that plays both.
One of our current DVD players plays DVD's and VHS tapes.
Someday, I guess, I'll have to go through our VHS tapes and run them through
my ATI all-in-wonder card and burn em to DVD.
By the time I get around to that I guess theyll have bluray dvd burners on
the market.
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| Kris Krieger 2008-03-27, 5:26 pm |
| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in
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> "Kris Krieger" <me@dowmuff.in> wrote in message
> news:13umbva11cp5287@corp.supernews.com...
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> Thats what I was wondering.
I got curious and found this:
http://www.blu-ray.com/info/
Most relevant bit:
"While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD±R, DVD±RW, and
DVD-RAM rely on a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a
blue-violet laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. Despite the different
type of lasers used, Blu-ray products can easily be made backwards
compatible with CDs and DVDs through the use of a BD/DVD/CD compatible
optical pickup unit."
But it doesn't say that a Blu-Ray *disc* can be red by a regular DVD
*player*, jsut that a regular *DVD* (etc) can be read by a *back-
compatible Blu-Ray reader/player*.
I saw a setup in a store a couple months ago, and the price was IMO
obscene.
I still can't decide whetehr I want ot spring for an HDTV. THey're
great for nature shows an dmovies, but for regular TV, um, er, do I
really want to see people's pores and nose-hairs and whatever...?
>
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> Don't have a PS3 nor intend to get one.
> We have an Xbox and I've played it exactly 1 time.
> My wife won it in a contest at sears about 6 years ago.
Heh ;)
>
>
> You know it man, and you have to keep throwing money at it with no
> idea what the end result is.
Yup, because you might spend for a unit, only to have it never develop
enough of a fan-base for more than a few games to be put out. And even
if you get a popular one, they change the things every year or two, it
seems, so even if you like games and want to play newer ones, you have ot
pay X-hundred bucks for new units.
> Right now I'm backwards $1000 for an HDTV but my satellite receiver is
> non-HD so I can only see regular stuff and it doesn't look that good.
> Last night I broke down and bought a set of composite video cables for
> $50 and I'll see if that makes it any better.
> Our satellite company (Direct TV) wants $99 for (1) new HD satellite
> receiver, $99 for installation and then $9.99 MORE per month for that
> priviledge.
> (we're already paying $50/mth for our regular stuff)
> Then, we'll need to buy an HD DVD player too.
> jayziss.....
Yup. We get a few extended channels, and that's expensive enough,
considering that it seems as tho' 90% of what's on (that isn't "news") is
just repeats. And of those, msot of them aren't visually-interesting
enough for me to long for HDTV. So I wouldn't get HDTV jus tto watch TV
shows/repeats. It'd be mainly for a few good movies and nature-related
DVDs.
> We just don't watch the stuff that much, me?-maybe 1 hour a day at
> most, and maybe 2-3 movies from netflix per month.
For the most part, I watch documentaries, nature/sceince stuff,
educational things, the news channels (several, to get a better-balanced
view), and things like that. Also CSI (esp. the news ones), NCIS,
occasionally a couple other crime-solving dramas tho' most are repeats
now. House. Oh yeah, increasingly, Turner Classic Movies ;)
Not much else. Never tried Netflix.
> Looks like the stuff is priced for people that do it alot and the
> casual user is basically fukked.....
Casual users aren't the cash-cows, so, yup, you got it right...
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| Kris Krieger 2008-03-27, 5:26 pm |
| "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in
news:47ebcfde$0$26050$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
> news:fsfvqo012mh@news2.newsguy.com...
>
> The answer is no, you cannot play Blueray on a DVD player. DVDs use a
> red laser diode, BlueRay uses a blue laser that has a smaller
> wavelength, thus allowing a smaller "line" or "groove" in the disk
> which allows more data to be put on the same amount of surface area.
I shoulda read the whole thread before replying - my reply repeated what
you already provided, but less so...
> You are definitely going to need an HD source cause with a new HDTV
> standard def just won't cut it. So if you want the goods your gonna
> have to pay Direct TV for it. And again, do not get HD-DVD confused
> with Blue-ray. Same high definition, two totally different
> proprietary standards. So don't be bamboozled by someone who is
> trying to unload boxloads of HD-DVD players and think your going to
> play Blue-ray movies on it. It won't work. You need a Blue-Ray
> player. HD-DVD is dead, gone, and buried, the one who invented it,
> Toshiba, is backing down from the format wars, and Blue ray is the
> winner, period, end of story. You'll find HD-DVD players at a 70%
> discount some places. Well if you like a limited movie set, go for
> it, but future movies won't be coming out on HD-DVD.
>
> And just for the record, while you may not play any games on it, the
> Playstation 3 is actually the cheapest and most upgradeable BlueRay
> player out there right now. The firmware is upgradeable, it has
> internet access built in, and hey, if you get the urge you might just
> want to shoot some aliens or browse the web when your not watching
> BlueRay movies.
>
> Blue ray players are currently at version 1.0 or 1.2. The Playstation
> 3 has recently been upgraded (or will be upgraded very soon, I don't
> own one currently) through downloadable firmware to BlueRay 2.0, which
> gives the movies much more interactivity, especially if you have it
> hooked up to the internet. No other player on the market has BlueRay
> 2.0, and they won't be coming out for a few months. Additionally,
> they will cost about 100 bucks more than the PS3 when they do come out
> (so I hear, but you know how it works with MSRP numbers). But of
> course the 1.0 and 1.2 versions work just as well and might be cheaper
> than the PS3 right now, but will never have the option of adding
> features in the future. The cheapest PS3 with a 40GB hard drive costs
> about 399.99. It has a Playstation store available that lets you
> download other things (which may include full length movies at some
> point). The hard drive is user upgradeable so put a terabyte drive in
> there is you like, and use it for looking at pictures on the drive or
> watching movies you download, etc, etc. Sheesh I sound like I work
> for Sony (but I don't).
>
> The cheapest blue ray player I saw was at Costco and was like $299 or
> $349 or something. Probably a much older model than the new stuff.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
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| "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
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> "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah, it does.
> So blu-ray DVD players won't play older DVD's?
> If not, somebody should make a player that plays both.
> One of our current DVD players plays DVD's and VHS tapes.
> Someday, I guess, I'll have to go through our VHS tapes and run them
> through my ATI all-in-wonder card and burn em to DVD.
> By the time I get around to that I guess theyll have bluray dvd burners on
> the market.
>
Oh, I should have said, the reverse better, BlueRay players handle DVDs
perfectly, and most times better than the original DVD players. The usually
have the red diode built in, and they do what's called upscalling, so the
original DVDs resolution of 400some lines gets "upscaled" to hd resolutions
(either 720 or 1080 lines depending on your tv and player). Its supposed to
make them look better. Never seen it myself so i can't comment on that
part, but I HAVE seen blue ray, and man it is just amazing on a big screen.
First movie I would buy on blue ray is "Planet Earth" and I definitely won't
buy it on DVD, even if I don't get an HDTV for many more years  .
P.S. BlueRay DVD burners (for computers) are already on the market, they
just cost an arm and a leg .
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| "Edgar"> wrote
> Oh, I should have said, the reverse better, BlueRay players handle DVDs
> perfectly, and most times better than the original DVD players. The
> usually have the red diode built in, and they do what's called upscalling,
> so the original DVDs resolution of 400some lines gets "upscaled" to hd
> resolutions (either 720 or 1080 lines depending on your tv and player).
> Its supposed to make them look better. Never seen it myself so i can't
> comment on that part, but I HAVE seen blue ray, and man it is just amazing
> on a big screen. First movie I would buy on blue ray is "Planet Earth" and
> I definitely won't buy it on DVD, even if I don't get an HDTV for many
> more years .
Perfect timing.
My wife gave me the whole series for christmas and I just got through
watching one of the episodes.
Outrageous filmography, stunning really.
Even though the disc was nonHD it looked great.
Before I fired it up I put a brand new set of 24kt gold composite cables on
the thing so that may have helped a little too.
> P.S. BlueRay DVD burners (for computers) are already on the market, they
> just cost an arm and a leg .
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