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| miamicuse 2005-06-16, 2:37 pm |
| I like the look of a wood beam ceiling, like what you see here:
http://vintagetimber.com/newpics200...Sanded_1841.jpg
What I don't know is, are these beams decorative or actual structural? How
are they attached to the rood structure? Can they be added on AFTER the
fact?
Thanks in advance,
MC
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| 3D Peruna 2005-06-16, 2:37 pm |
| miamicuse wrote:
quote:
> I like the look of a wood beam ceiling, like what you see here:
>
> http://vintagetimber.com/newpics200...Sanded_1841.jpg
>
> What I don't know is, are these beams decorative or actual structural? How
> are they attached to the rood structure? Can they be added on AFTER the
> fact?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> MC
I'd say there's a 90% chance those beams are decorative and just applied
to the ceiling...but without seeing the structural system, it's
impossible to tell for sure.
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| "miamicuse"> wrote
quote:
>I like the look of a wood beam ceiling, like what you see here:
>
> http://vintagetimber.com/newpics200...Sanded_1841.jpg
>
> What I don't know is, are these beams decorative or actual structural?
> How
> are they attached to the rood structure? Can they be added on AFTER the
> fact?
I agree with Paul, those beams are probably fake.
Try this:
Look at the left side of the picture, on the ceiling is a small white vent.
Pop the cover off the vent and see if you can get access to the space above.
Maybe with a mirror and a flashlight you can determine if the beams are
structural. Another consideration is what is going on above the ceiling, is
there a 2nd floor space up there or is it a roof?
What is the function of that room? I see a dark fireplace, a wrought iron
ceiling fixture and a set of blueprints.
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| miamicuse 2005-06-16, 2:38 pm |
| Thanks Don.
Don't worry too much about that specific picture, since I found it on the
net to use as an example of what I was looking for. Someone else told me
they could be styrofoam. I was in a house with it, and it's definitely not
styrofoam. The one I saw had a central beam along the "ridge" of the A
frame, and then cross beams seem to connect to it from both sides, and they
all pitch down with the cathedral ceiling. I reached up and touched one at
about 8' tall where it is the lowest point, and it's solid wood as far as I
can touch and knocked on it. But the wood does not penetrate the wall, it
just stopped there. I would think for it to be somewhat structural it has
to penetrate the wall and rest on top of some cross members in the wall. In
that particular house, above the beams is the drywall ceiling, and there
were AC vents and high hat lights on the ceiling, and the roof looked a lot
more pitched than the ceiling, so there is another layer of space above it,
probably insulation etc...not living space however.
MC
"Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> "miamicuse"> wrote
>
> I agree with Paul, those beams are probably fake.
> Try this:
> Look at the left side of the picture, on the ceiling is a small white
vent.
quote:
> Pop the cover off the vent and see if you can get access to the space
above.
quote:
> Maybe with a mirror and a flashlight you can determine if the beams are
> structural. Another consideration is what is going on above the ceiling,
is
quote:
> there a 2nd floor space up there or is it a roof?
>
> What is the function of that room? I see a dark fireplace, a wrought iron
> ceiling fixture and a set of blueprints.
>
>
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| Sounds like you've done the right investigation.
That particular *style* was very popular here in Florida back in the late
70's-mid 80's.
Unfortunately it tends to *date* the home, just as Dome Ceilings and Popcorn
finish does.
Many times the wood wrap (fake beams) was rough sawn or smooth cedar with no
finish.
The way those false beams are created is to nail a 2x(8) flat to the
ceiling, (there must be a truss/rafter or 2x bridging to nail into) then
flank it with 1x(8) verticals, then lastly a 1x(10) (ripped to the right
width) would be nailed on the bottom, enclosing the whole thing into a
*boxed beam* effect.
"miamicuse" <nmbexcuse@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2_2dndvSR6356hrfRVn-1g@dsli.com...
quote:
> Thanks Don.
>
> Don't worry too much about that specific picture, since I found it on the
> net to use as an example of what I was looking for. Someone else told me
> they could be styrofoam. I was in a house with it, and it's definitely
> not
> styrofoam. The one I saw had a central beam along the "ridge" of the A
> frame, and then cross beams seem to connect to it from both sides, and
> they
> all pitch down with the cathedral ceiling. I reached up and touched one
> at
> about 8' tall where it is the lowest point, and it's solid wood as far as
> I
> can touch and knocked on it. But the wood does not penetrate the wall, it
> just stopped there. I would think for it to be somewhat structural it has
> to penetrate the wall and rest on top of some cross members in the wall.
> In
> that particular house, above the beams is the drywall ceiling, and there
> were AC vents and high hat lights on the ceiling, and the roof looked a
> lot
> more pitched than the ceiling, so there is another layer of space above
> it,
> probably insulation etc...not living space however.
>
> MC
>
> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
> news:rjGhe.3634$w21.2329@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> vent.
> above.
> is
>
>
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| brudgers 2005-06-16, 2:38 pm |
| One would have to be supported by the chimmney, another by the window
header, and the one on the end is so close to the corner that it should
just be part of the wall. Throw in that a heavy timber building wouldn't
need to be sprinklered and the decorative saw, and you got your answer.
"miamicuse" <nmbexcuse@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:yJSdnRlsHsgcJBvfRVn-2w@dsli.com...
quote:
>I like the look of a wood beam ceiling, like what you see here:
>
> http://vintagetimber.com/newpics200...Sanded_1841.jpg
>
> What I don't know is, are these beams decorative or actual structural?
> How
> are they attached to the rood structure? Can they be added on AFTER the
> fact?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> MC
>
>
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