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ME

2007-04-02, 8:25 pm

I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


Thanks

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Eggs Zachtly

2007-04-02, 9:25 pm

ME said:

> I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
> prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
> The correct size socket just strips it...
> This sucks.
> Would anyone have a solution ?
>


vicegrips?

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Eggs

-Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.
Srgnt Billko

2007-04-03, 3:25 am


"ME" <me@myhouse.com> wrote in message
news:m673135fr1skq74d9b3c2686amsug4h6fa@4ax.com...
>I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
> prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
> The correct size socket just strips it...
> This sucks.
> Would anyone have a solution ?
>
>
> Thanks
>


There is a difference between 6 point and 12 point sockets.

I wouldn't hesitate to put a pipe wrench on it. Plugs are cheap to replace.


willshak

2007-04-03, 3:25 am

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> ME said:
>
>
> vicegrips?
>



Are they handcuffs for prostitutes? :-)



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Jim

2007-04-03, 3:25 am

Eggs Zachtly wrote:

> ME said:
>
>
> vicegrips?


be SURE to set the caming action on the vice grips as
tight as you can. in the past, I've used a C-clamp to
set the vice grips.

I bet you got a cast aluminum engine block with a steel
drain plug. if so then there is a really good possibility
seizure has occurred. in this case it's not just stuck but
rather the two different metals have bonded to one another
due to their different temperature coefficients defining
how metals expand and contract when repeatedly heated and
cooled. under these circumstances it's not uncommon for the
female threads in the aluminum engine block to break after
sufficient force has been applied and thus remain attached
to the steel drain plug. if the threads do break simply
drill and re-tap the hole to the next larger size. before
installing the new drain plug apply a product called Never
Seize, a compound designed to compensate for the two different
metal thermal coefficients.


have fun in the shop.

hi Eggs.

Jim
Stubby

2007-04-03, 9:25 am



ME wrote:
> I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
> prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
> The correct size socket just strips it...
> This sucks.
> Would anyone have a solution ?


I would forget about it and try again next Fall. I haven't changed my
oil in 17 years and it works fine.
GROUP MODERATOR

2007-04-03, 1:25 pm

run the engine till warm or hot and then try again

"ME" <me@myhouse.com> wrote in message
news:m673135fr1skq74d9b3c2686amsug4h6fa@4ax.com...
>I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
> prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
> The correct size socket just strips it...
> This sucks.
> Would anyone have a solution ?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



Ann

2007-04-03, 1:25 pm

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:44:35 -0400, Jim wrote:

> Eggs Zachtly wrote:
>
>
> be SURE to set the caming action on the vice grips as
> tight as you can. in the past, I've used a C-clamp to
> set the vice grips.
>
> I bet you got a cast aluminum engine block with a steel
> drain plug. if so then there is a really good possibility
> seizure has occurred. in this case it's not just stuck but
> rather the two different metals have bonded to one another
> due to their different temperature coefficients defining
> how metals expand and contract when repeatedly heated and
> cooled. under these circumstances it's not uncommon for the
> female threads in the aluminum engine block to break after
> sufficient force has been applied and thus remain attached
> to the steel drain plug. if the threads do break simply
> drill and re-tap the hole to the next larger size. before
> installing the new drain plug apply a product called Never
> Seize, a compound designed to compensate for the two different
> metal thermal coefficients.


Anti-seize is also alleged to reduce galvanic corrosion and oxidation of
the aluminum. Recalling that the original VW Beetle had problems with
various engine studs freezing in the aluminum block, I Googled. That
reminded me that there was the same sort of problem with European
motorcycles of roughly the same vintage. (Harley didn't care how much
their motorcycles weighed. <g> ) Anyway, the search returned up this
thread that you might enjoy.
http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/33097.html?1082064060


> have fun in the shop.


Just don't mix up the tubes of anti-seize and Loctite.

> hi Eggs.
>
> Jim


Jim

2007-04-03, 1:25 pm

Ann wrote:

> Jim wrote:
>
> Anti-seize is also alleged to reduce galvanic corrosion and oxidation of
> the aluminum. Recalling that the original VW Beetle had problems with
> various engine studs freezing in the aluminum block, I Googled. That
> reminded me that there was the same sort of problem with European
> motorcycles of roughly the same vintage. (Harley didn't care how much
> their motorcycles weighed. <g> ) Anyway, the search returned up this
> thread that you might enjoy.
> http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/33097.html?1082064060
>
>
> Just don't mix up the tubes of anti-seize and Loctite.


http://www.permatex.com/product_search.htm

even worse is to think you've selected the correct product
to provide a solution only then to find out at a later date
how the selection was inappropriate.

Product Search Results
The search results displayed below are automotive products.

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Eggs Zachtly

2007-04-03, 5:25 pm

Stubby said:

[...]

> I haven't changed my oil in 17 years


I'm fairly confident that that comes as a shock to very few, here.

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Eggs

-Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
Mel M Kelly

2007-04-04, 5:25 pm

Start the engine and heat it up before you try to remove it.


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