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| goober 2007-09-03, 5:25 pm |
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hey all
was wondering if anyone can advise me on a good weed and feed for
autum
regards
matt
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goober
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"goober" <goober.1521886@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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> hey all
>
> was wondering if anyone can advise me on a good weed and feed for
> autum
>
> regards
>
> matt
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> goober
1. An answer to your question really depends upon your location and the
type of turf which you have.
2. Generally, a weed-and-feed is unnecessary -- it's a victory of marketing
over good practice and amounts to overuse of pesticide. Also, to keep the
"weed" part from damaging the turf, the "feed" part contains a very high
amount of soluble nitrogen, also not the best choice for good turf. If you
have so many weeds you have to weed the entire yard, best to just start
over -- otherwise, spot treat the weeds by themself and use a good lawn
fertilizer suitable for your area.
Your handle suggests you live in the south and may have St. Augustine grass.
Lesco makes several good lawn fertilizers -- pick one with a moderate amount
of nitrogen, most of which is insoluble, and low potassium -- their best is
under the Lesco Professional name.
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| Peter H 2007-09-03, 8:25 pm |
| On Sep 3, 6:05 pm, "JimR" <jmreed...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "goober" <goober.1521...@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 1. An answer to your question really depends upon your location and the
> type of turf which you have.
>
> 2. Generally, a weed-and-feed is unnecessary -- it's a victory of marketing
> over good practice and amounts to overuse of pesticide. Also, to keep the
> "weed" part from damaging the turf, the "feed" part contains a very high
> amount of soluble nitrogen, also not the best choice for good turf. If you
> have so many weeds you have to weed the entire yard, best to just start
> over -- otherwise, spot treat the weeds by themself and use a good lawn
> fertilizer suitable for your area.
>
> Your handle suggests you live in the south and may have St. Augustine grass.
> Lesco makes several good lawn fertilizers -- pick one with a moderate amount
> of nitrogen, most of which is insoluble, and low potassium -- their best is
> under the Lesco Professional name.
The other problem with weed 'n' feed is that when you spread it you'll
be adding weed killer to your gardens. It's counter productive at
best.
Peter H
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| Peter Pan 2007-09-03, 8:25 pm |
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I know there will be many diffrent opinions to this but here it goes: Fall
is typically the time to seed your lawn, I wouldnt worry about weed and feed
until Spring time.
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| Eggs Zachtly 2007-09-03, 8:25 pm |
| JimR said:
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> Your handle suggests you live in the south
To me, it says "chocolate covered peanuts". =P
> and may have St. Augustine grass.
Where's /that/ come from, outta "goober"?
[rest snipped]
Never guess, Jim. ;)
> X-Originating-IP: 90.197.168.11
Tracing route to 90.197.168.11 I got no replies after:
11 cr0.lcaor.uk.easynet.net (87.87.248.252)
As weird as the net acts sometimes, I doubt that my pings went all the way
to GB, and then back to the bayou. ;)
(I'll give ya that "South Wales" is a /possibility/, but I doubt St.
Augustine will grow there.) =)
--
Eggs
Do cemetery workers prefer the graveyard shift?
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"goober" <goober.1521886@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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> hey all
>
> was wondering if anyone can advise me on a good weed and feed for
> autum
>
> regards
>
From all I have read, weed & feed is a terrible product to use.
Primarily because it spreads a herbicide on everything whether
needed or not, and it can damage other plants - even trees.
Frankly, I'd find a different way to handle the weeds and never buy
weed & feed.
Bob-tx
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| Steveo 2007-09-04, 8:25 pm |
| Peter H <haneburyp@rogers.com> wrote:
> be adding weed killer to your gardens. It's counter productive at
> best.
>
> Peter H
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Don't use a broadcast spreader for powder broadleaf weed control. That's
what drop spreaders were made for. (streak-masters)
It's fairly effective if applied correctly. (follow the label closely)
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| Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> JimR said:
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> To me, it says "chocolate covered peanuts". =P
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> Where's /that/ come from, outta "goober"?
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> [rest snipped]
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> Never guess, Jim. ;)
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> Tracing route to 90.197.168.11 I got no replies after:
>
> 11 cr0.lcaor.uk.easynet.net (87.87.248.252)
>
> As weird as the net acts sometimes, I doubt that my pings went all
> the way to GB, and then back to the bayou. ;)
>
> (I'll give ya that "South Wales" is a /possibility/, but I doubt St.
> Augustine will grow there.) =)
Eggs, Now your a detective?
I found London. http://www.logbud.com/visual_trace (nice site)
13458987-RIPE/EASYNET-SKY-EXCHANGES cr0.lcaor.uk.easynet.net
87.87.248.25280.3ms United Kingdom London, City of London Easynet
MMM Goobers........
Clark
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| trader4@optonline.net 2007-09-06, 9:25 am |
| On Sep 3, 7:41 pm, "Peter Pan" <Pe...@neverland.net> wrote:
> I know there will be many diffrent opinions to this but here it goes: Fall
> is typically the time to seed your lawn, I wouldnt worry about weed and feed
> until Spring time.
He doesn't say anything about his lawn needing seeding. And even if
it did, you'd seed a lawn full of weeds without dealing with them
first?
Nothing wrong with dealing with weeds in the Fall. Many weeds will
continue to grow into winter and even beyond into next Spring if they
are
not taken care of now.
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| jthread 2007-09-07, 1:25 pm |
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"JimR" <jmreed441@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "goober" <goober.1521886@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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manure and compost. just make sure it's ph balanced and heated.
[color=darkred]
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> 1. An answer to your question really depends upon your location and the
> type of turf which you have.
>
> 2. Generally, a weed-and-feed is unnecessary
Don't use "weed and feed" if you have any large trees. Follw directions
carefully. If your neighbors have large trees I wouldn't use weed and feed
near their house. But then again I wouldn't use weed and feed. I can't
believe people buy it.
-- it's a victory of marketing
> over good practice and amounts to overuse of pesticide. Also, to keep the
> "weed" part from damaging the turf, the "feed" part contains a very high
> amount of soluble nitrogen, also not the best choice for good turf. If
> you have so many weeds you have to weed the entire yard, best to just
> start over -- otherwise, spot treat the weeds by themself and use a good
> lawn fertilizer suitable for your area.
>
> Your handle suggests you live in the south and may have St. Augustine
> grass.
If it's St. A grass you don't need any weed and feed ~ just weed it. the
grass will win.
> Lesco makes several good lawn fertilizers -- pick one with a moderate
> amount of nitrogen, most of which is insoluble, and low potassium -- their
> best is under the Lesco Professional name.
>
thanks.
i got some milorganite 6-2-0. about 3 weeks ago. worked well after it
watered in. just put down some dillo dirt and it really took off again. the
rain helped. nothin works like good old soil conditioner and some water.
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| jthread 2007-09-07, 1:25 pm |
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"Bob" <bobwhite@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
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> "goober" <goober.1521886@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:goober.1521886@gardenbanter.co.uk...
> From all I have read, weed & feed is a terrible product to use. Primarily
> because it spreads a herbicide on everything whether needed or not, and it
> can damage other plants - even trees.
>
> Frankly, I'd find a different way to handle the weeds and never buy weed &
> feed.
> Bob-tx
>
I'm really glad to see people are starting to wake up to this.
I noticed Scott's has a "all natural" fertilizer too. how funny.
Homedepot and Lowes had 100's of bags of weed and feed in the aisles and I
wonder how many people actually read the instructions before using.
That crap shouldn't be sold here at all. Too many trees.
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| On Sep 6, 8:05 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
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> Nothing wrong with dealing with weeds in the Fall. Many weeds will
> continue to grow into winter and even beyond into next Spring if they
> are
> not taken care of now.
Very true. The problem weed of my area is henbit. It sprouts in the
fall, winters over, goes wild in the spring, dies early summer, then
repeats in the fall. If you want to control it, October is the best
time with pre-emergence or weed killer just after it sprouts.
Those who think fall applications are unnecessary are not thinking
beyond their own yard. A very common mistake in this forum.
KC
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| KC wrote:
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[....]
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> Very true. The problem weed of my area is henbit. It sprouts in the
> fall, winters over, goes wild in the spring, dies early summer, then
> repeats in the fall. If you want to control it, October is the best
> time with pre-emergence or weed killer just after it sprouts.
> Those who think fall applications are unnecessary are not thinking
> beyond their own yard. A very common mistake in this forum.
>
> KC
something you said here caught my eye,
"not thinking beyond their own yard"
it's a sad sad truth concerning the self centered need
for satisfying ones own desires.
today in america peoples desire for the lush thick mono
turf type green lawn has produced an environmental hazard
just beginning to unfold and tell it's story. current trends
have the 100' by 100' lawn receiving more herbicides, insecticides
and chemical fertilizers than the typical farmer applies to an
acre of land. further contributing to the unfolding disaster
in the making is how neighborhood lawns are totally unregulated
with regard towards runoff which sends these chemicals directly
into the water supply.
"not thinking beyond their own yard"
here in central NC we are experiencing one heck of an on
going drought. water restrictions have been in place now
for several months and just recently tighter restrictions
went into place allowing for lawns to be watered only one
day a week.
an article appearing in today's N&O presented an excellent
exemplification of peoples selfish stupidity when it comes
to "not thinking beyond their own yard".
http://www.newsobserver.com/weather...ory/695176.html
ok, stepping down from my portable soapbox for a moment lets
give consideration to the aspects of having a nice lawn while
thinking beyond our own yard. first consideration should be
for shared resources such as water. when a drought such as
the one we are experiencing here in NC severely limits the
amount of water available to the local population, priorities
of importance need to be established. a simple question should
be put forth and that is, how long can you the human continue
without water to sustain your body? which is really more
important, water to drink or water to irrigate a lawn?
I full well realize I'm only a simple country boy, semiliterate,
uneducated and therefore hardly qualified to render an answer to
the above stated question concerning the important uses of water when
it's availability is severely limited. but do consider this, after
you've died from dehydration will you be able to visually appreciate
the lust green well irrigated lawn? duh!
the vast majority of lawn owners are totally unaware of the organic
alternatives available today. they instead waddle into the local big
box store and being the quadruple chin porker beast they are see grub
control product and make the purchase without ever reading the label
or seeing the words Merit or Dylox. even worse is how they'll apply
the product without reading the application instructions contained on
the product labeling. how many times in this very forum have we seen
the question, "how much should I apply" followed by Eggs saying "did
you read the label?" and to further exemplify the disaster in the
making we're expecting a population of quadruple chin porker beast
creatures who can't even feed themselves a correct portion to figure
out how to apply 2.5 pounds of product evenly over 100 square feet
of lawn! get real, it just ain't going to happen...
http://www.milkyspore.com/
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| Yea, thanks for the bore-athon Jimmey
go hug a fricken tree already
(you could have just posted a link there big guy)
I just pick the weeds and make a friggen salad with 'em
Clark
Jim wrote:
> KC wrote:
> [....]
>
> something you said here caught my eye,
> "not thinking beyond their own yard"
> it's a sad sad truth concerning the self centered need
> for satisfying ones own desires.
>
> today in america peoples desire for the lush thick mono
> turf type green lawn has produced an environmental hazard
> just beginning to unfold and tell it's story. current trends
> have the 100' by 100' lawn receiving more herbicides, insecticides
> and chemical fertilizers than the typical farmer applies to an
> acre of land. further contributing to the unfolding disaster
> in the making is how neighborhood lawns are totally unregulated
> with regard towards runoff which sends these chemicals directly
> into the water supply.
>
> "not thinking beyond their own yard"
>
> here in central NC we are experiencing one heck of an on
> going drought. water restrictions have been in place now
> for several months and just recently tighter restrictions
> went into place allowing for lawns to be watered only one
> day a week.
>
> an article appearing in today's N&O presented an excellent
> exemplification of peoples selfish stupidity when it comes
> to "not thinking beyond their own yard".
> http://www.newsobserver.com/weather...ory/695176.html
>
> ok, stepping down from my portable soapbox for a moment lets
> give consideration to the aspects of having a nice lawn while
> thinking beyond our own yard. first consideration should be
> for shared resources such as water. when a drought such as
> the one we are experiencing here in NC severely limits the
> amount of water available to the local population, priorities
> of importance need to be established. a simple question should
> be put forth and that is, how long can you the human continue
> without water to sustain your body? which is really more
> important, water to drink or water to irrigate a lawn?
>
> I full well realize I'm only a simple country boy, semiliterate,
> uneducated and therefore hardly qualified to render an answer to
> the above stated question concerning the important uses of water when
> it's availability is severely limited. but do consider this, after
> you've died from dehydration will you be able to visually appreciate
> the lust green well irrigated lawn? duh!
>
> the vast majority of lawn owners are totally unaware of the organic
> alternatives available today. they instead waddle into the local big
> box store and being the quadruple chin porker beast they are see grub
> control product and make the purchase without ever reading the label
> or seeing the words Merit or Dylox. even worse is how they'll apply
> the product without reading the application instructions contained on
> the product labeling. how many times in this very forum have we seen
> the question, "how much should I apply" followed by Eggs saying "did
> you read the label?" and to further exemplify the disaster in the
> making we're expecting a population of quadruple chin porker beast
> creatures who can't even feed themselves a correct portion to figure
> out how to apply 2.5 pounds of product evenly over 100 square feet
> of lawn! get real, it just ain't going to happen...
>
> http://www.milkyspore.com/
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| jthread 2007-09-08, 8:25 pm |
| It was a long post. I usually scan only for the highlights.
I was just thinking how this group had done a 180 for the good then you post
that. Well... that's more like it.
It's like being sprayed in the face with bug spray. :^(
seriously kids, get your pets spayed and neutered
"Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Yea, thanks for the bore-athon Jimmey
> go hug a fricken tree already
> (you could have just posted a link there big guy)
> I just pick the weeds and make a friggen salad with 'em
>
> Clark
>
> Jim wrote:
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jthread wrote:
> It was a long post. I usually scan only for the highlights.
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> I was just thinking how this group had done a 180 for the good then
> you post that. Well... that's more like it.
>
> It's like being sprayed in the face with bug spray. :^(
>
> seriously kids, get your pets spayed and neutered
I am not a fan of preaching in newsgroups, I'm here for the light hearted
banter and some tips.
If you all want to preach do it somewhere else, like god hates fags, or Al
Gore is God, whatever
If ya don't like me, plunk me, I make no apologies
Clark
and please spay and neuter
I wish my tenants would spay and neuter themselves too.
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> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| jthread 2007-09-09, 3:25 am |
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"Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> jthread wrote:
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> I am not a fan of preaching in newsgroups, I'm here for the light hearted
> banter and some tips.
> If you all want to preach do it somewhere else, like god hates fags, or Al
> Gore is God, whatever
> If ya don't like me, plunk me, I make no apologies
>
> Clark
> and please spay and neuter
> I wish my tenants would spay and neuter themselves too.
>
>
tee hee:~)
>
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| jthread wrote:
> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> tee hee:~)
(long boring part sniped) <<
To stay on topic, I give one tenant a $50.00 discount to mow the lawn, guess
who has to do it half the time anyway.
ya me, and its usually 8 inches deep too.
When he does mow he bags it then dumps the bag wherever it fills up,
causing all kinds of dead spots.
Clark
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| jthread 2007-09-09, 9:25 am |
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"Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> jthread wrote:
> (long boring part sniped) <<
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> To stay on topic, I give one tenant a $50.00 discount to mow the lawn,
> guess who has to do it half the time anyway.
> ya me, and its usually 8 inches deep too.
> When he does mow he bags it then dumps the bag wherever it fills up,
> causing all kinds of dead spots.
>
> Clark
first rule of property management. never make side deals with tenants. are
you new at this?
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| jthread wrote:
> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> first rule of property management. never make side deals with
> tenants. are you new at this?
Not a side deal, the agreement is in the lease. No pets in the lease too,
but I just found out he has had a dog for a week, he gets a 15 day notice of
termination this week.
and no I'm not new at renting apartments, been doing it since 1992, but for
some silly reason I keep thinking people will keep their word. (sigh)
Clark
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| jthread 2007-09-10, 9:25 am |
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"Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> jthread wrote:
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> Not a side deal, the agreement is in the lease. No pets in the lease too,
> but I just found out he has had a dog for a week, he gets a 15 day notice
> of termination this week.
> and no I'm not new at renting apartments, been doing it since 1992, but
> for some silly reason I keep thinking people will keep their word. (sigh)
> Clark
>
i was kidding :~)
can't you see if he can find a home for the dog first. seems a little harsh.
i thought they had to have 60 days or is that a state-by-state thing?
people will always let you down. start from there and you won't be
dissapointed. 
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| Eggs Zachtly 2007-09-10, 5:25 pm |
| jthread said:
> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3naFi.2$Yw6.1@newsfe04.lga...
> i was kidding :~)
>
> can't you see if he can find a home for the dog first. seems a little harsh.
> i thought they had to have 60 days or is that a state-by-state thing?
eff that! Toss him, Clark! Beat him with a 10" pine twig, and toss him on
his deadbeat arse! =)
[rest snipped]
--
Eggs
-Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.
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| Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> jthread said:
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> eff that! Toss him, Clark! Beat him with a 10" pine twig, and toss
> him on his deadbeat arse! =)
>
> [rest snipped]
That was funny Eggs ! I laughed pretty damn hard at that one.
Clark
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| jthread wrote:
> "Clark" <Clark_throwaway@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3naFi.2$Yw6.1@newsfe04.lga...
> i was kidding :~)
>
> can't you see if he can find a home for the dog first. seems a little
> harsh. i thought they had to have 60 days or is that a state-by-state
> thing?
> people will always let you down. start from there and you won't be
> dissapointed.
I thought you were kidding ;-)
I have to give a 15 day notice then a 30 day notice, but it does not matter,
he called and told me he can't deal with all the pressure and is going to be
out by the end of the month.
(there is an entire story)
Clark
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| Steveo 2007-09-10, 8:25 pm |
| eggsUNDERSCOREHEREzachtly@hotmail.com wrote:
> his deadbeat arse! =)
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> [rest snipped]
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Hehe.
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