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Bourne Identity

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

For several nights my husband has been seeing two animals. One larger than the
other, the larger being about a third larger than the smaller. I got to see it
tonight on the fence. It had a long, bushy tail, beautiful detail and smooth.
I didn't see the color as it was too dark and the flashlight didn't do it.

When it finally ran off it made a sound like a gravelly roar, not a screech. I
found something which sounds very much like what I heard:

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest...ds/FoxChirp.wav

I looked at the Texas Parks and Wildlife website, but all they list is one kind
of fox, and it is not supposed to live this far east in Texas. However, it is
listed as living in open prairie, short and tall grass. Recently, on SH-79 they
have literally removed hundreds of acres to build a new Walmart, an HEB going
in, and tons of those shit bag houses that all look exactly alike, all three
feet from the other.

I did see a rabbit the other day for a few days and now it is not here any
more. Coincidence? I also have not seen near as many lizards as I normally
see. I can count how many I've seen this year, as opposed to every other year
seeing many dozens daily.

So, do we have any Master Naturalists out there?

Victoria
suzilem

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm


"Bourne Identity" <siriusly@siriusradioisbest.com> wrote in message
news:6315a1dcqt32aqdtqsqai7r70cbmu5omji@4ax.com...
quote:

> For several nights my husband has been seeing two animals. One larger

than the
quote:

> other, the larger being about a third larger than the smaller. I got to

see it
quote:

> tonight on the fence. It had a long, bushy tail, beautiful detail and

smooth.
quote:

> I didn't see the color as it was too dark and the flashlight didn't do it.
>
> When it finally ran off it made a sound like a gravelly roar, not a

screech. I
quote:

> found something which sounds very much like what I heard:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/RainForest...ds/FoxChirp.wav
>

possibly a gray fox???

http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/uroccine.htm

"The gray fox is essentially an inhabitant of wooded areas, particularly
mixed hardwood forests. It is common throughout the wooded sections east of
the shortgrass plains and in the pinyon-juniper community above the low
lying deserts."



OmManiPadmeOmelet

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

In article <gKwoe.2519$RV5.2486@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
"suzilem" <slemcke@deflectprocessedmeat.texas.net> wrote:
quote:

> "Bourne Identity" <siriusly@siriusradioisbest.com> wrote in message
> news:6315a1dcqt32aqdtqsqai7r70cbmu5omji@4ax.com...
> than the
> see it
> smooth.
> screech. I
> possibly a gray fox???
>
> http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/uroccine.htm
>
> "The gray fox is essentially an inhabitant of wooded areas, particularly
> mixed hardwood forests. It is common throughout the wooded sections east of
> the shortgrass plains and in the pinyon-juniper community above the low
> lying deserts."
>
>
>


I found a fresh road killed gray fox just this last Christmas on one of
the Suburban roads in New Braunfels... Flatlands. Searches for food
will drive them out of normal habitats.

There are foxes around here. About as common as bobcats.

There are also occasionally cougars.

And plenty of coyotes. :-P
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-XXXXX." -Jack Nicholson
Bourne Identity

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

Thanks everyone. It definitely looks like the gray fox. Now, there are two of
them. If one of them is half the size could that possibly be offspring, or are
the males that much larger? I will do some research myself, and I absolutely
love that a fox would choose my property to live, but if they reproduce and have
6 pups, what then?

The rabbit is nowhere to be found, so it either smelled the fox or one of the
foxes turned a rabbit into fox.

Victoria



On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 08:20:13 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet <Omelet@brokenegz.com>
opined:
quote:

>In article <gKwoe.2519$RV5.2486@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
> "suzilem" <slemcke@deflectprocessedmeat.texas.net> wrote:
>
>
>I found a fresh road killed gray fox just this last Christmas on one of
>the Suburban roads in New Braunfels... Flatlands. Searches for food
>will drive them out of normal habitats.
>
>There are foxes around here. About as common as bobcats.
>
>There are also occasionally cougars.
>
>And plenty of coyotes. :-P



Gary Brady

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

Bourne Identity wrote:
quote:

> Thanks everyone. It definitely looks like the gray fox. Now, there are two of
> them. If one of them is half the size could that possibly be offspring, or are
> the males that much larger? I will do some research myself, and I absolutely
> love that a fox would choose my property to live, but if they reproduce and have
> 6 pups, what then?
>
> The rabbit is nowhere to be found, so it either smelled the fox or one of the
> foxes turned a rabbit into fox.
>
> Victoria


I've seen several foxes around my neighborhood over the years, and I
think that the smaller one would be a young fox. I saw a half size fox
looking through our sliding glass bedroom door one night and it looked
young, much as a puppy looks compared to an adult dog. I don't think
you'll have trouble with them unless you have chickens. And I haven't
noticed any change in the rabbit population. I find the deer to be the
most destructive animals around.

Gary Brady
charliekilo

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <Omelet@brokenegz.com> wrote in message
news:Omelet-A51564.08201305062005@corp.supernews.com...
quote:

> In article <gKwoe.2519$RV5.2486@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
> "suzilem" <slemcke@deflectprocessedmeat.texas.net> wrote:
>
>
> I found a fresh road killed gray fox just this last Christmas on one of
> the Suburban roads in New Braunfels... Flatlands. Searches for food
> will drive them out of normal habitats.
>
> There are foxes around here. About as common as bobcats.
>
> There are also occasionally cougars.
>
> And plenty of coyotes. :-P


I live in Great Hills/Arboretum area and we have quite a few gray foxes
around here.


Bourne Identity

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:59:52 GMT, "charliekilo" <miles_kramer@hotmail.com>
opined:

quote:

>
>I live in Great Hills/Arboretum area and we have quite a few gray foxes
>around here.
>


Yes, after several late nights out back with flashlights we spotted two pups and
a mom. They live in a den somewhere under our shed. At least that's one of
their entrances. I'm not going to do anything about them. The pups will leave
and they are said to be solitary for the most part. I'm concerned about the
cardinal nest with three chicks in it. She made her nest in the rosa rugosa
this year. A bit too low for my liking, but I'll watch it. I think these fox
have really cleaned up the rodent population we had back there. At one time I
saw at least eleven of them on the bird feeder way out at the end of the
property.

V
John

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm


"Bourne Identity" <siriusly@siriusradioisbest.com> wrote in message
news:0j4fa11jlmsbrgj8ag2sqdbkognafm6nj2@4ax.com...
quote:

> On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:59:52 GMT, "charliekilo" <miles_kramer@hotmail.com>
> opined:
>
>
>
> Yes, after several late nights out back with flashlights we spotted two
> pups and
> a mom. They live in a den somewhere under our shed. At least that's one
> of
> their entrances. I'm not going to do anything about them. The pups will
> leave
> and they are said to be solitary for the most part. I'm concerned about
> the
> cardinal nest with three chicks in it. She made her nest in the rosa
> rugosa
> this year. A bit too low for my liking, but I'll watch it. I think these
> fox
> have really cleaned up the rodent population we had back there. At one
> time I
> saw at least eleven of them on the bird feeder way out at the end of the
> property.
>
> V


My folks live in the Pine Forest in Bastrop county, just east of the city of
Bastrop near Hwy 71..Early one morning I walked out the door and saw one of
these guys running up the road..Was very cool...
John


Katra

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

In article <d8n1ts$s1f$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
"John" <jonjon.winn@TAKETHISOUTmail.utexas.edu> wrote:
quote:

> "Bourne Identity" <siriusly@siriusradioisbest.com> wrote in message
> news:0j4fa11jlmsbrgj8ag2sqdbkognafm6nj2@4ax.com...
>
> My folks live in the Pine Forest in Bastrop county, just east of the city of
> Bastrop near Hwy 71..Early one morning I walked out the door and saw one of
> these guys running up the road..Was very cool...
> John
>
>


Foxes are cool...
until they start eating your pet cats, and your poultry. ;-)
--
K.

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Barney Rubble

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

There are foxs in the woods around the houses on Red Bud (just up from 79)
and the field between 79 and the diamond (towards the south).

- Barney
"Bourne Identity" <siriusly@siriusradioisbest.com> wrote in message
news:6315a1dcqt32aqdtqsqai7r70cbmu5omji@4ax.com...
quote:

> For several nights my husband has been seeing two animals. One larger
> than the
> other, the larger being about a third larger than the smaller. I got to
> see it
> tonight on the fence. It had a long, bushy tail, beautiful detail and
> smooth.
> I didn't see the color as it was too dark and the flashlight didn't do it.
>
> When it finally ran off it made a sound like a gravelly roar, not a
> screech. I
> found something which sounds very much like what I heard:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/RainForest...ds/FoxChirp.wav
>
> I looked at the Texas Parks and Wildlife website, but all they list is one
> kind
> of fox, and it is not supposed to live this far east in Texas. However,
> it is
> listed as living in open prairie, short and tall grass. Recently, on
> SH-79 they
> have literally removed hundreds of acres to build a new Walmart, an HEB
> going
> in, and tons of those shit bag houses that all look exactly alike, all
> three
> feet from the other.
>
> I did see a rabbit the other day for a few days and now it is not here any
> more. Coincidence? I also have not seen near as many lizards as I
> normally
> see. I can count how many I've seen this year, as opposed to every other
> year
> seeing many dozens daily.
>
> So, do we have any Master Naturalists out there?
>
> Victoria



Bourne Identity

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:51:04 -0500, "John"
<jonjon.winn@TAKETHISOUTmail.utexas.edu> opined:

quote:

>
>My folks live in the Pine Forest in Bastrop county, just east of the city of
>Bastrop near Hwy 71..Early one morning I walked out the door and saw one of
>these guys running up the road..Was very cool...
>John
>


Yes, we see them in the morning too. The other morning my neighbor said she saw
the mama with something in her mouth. I don't love the idea that she is
killing, but that's what happens I suppose.

V
Bourne Identity

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

Which is directly where I am.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:21:55 -0500, "Barney Rubble" <barney.rubble@boulder.com>
opined:
quote:

>There are foxs in the woods around the houses on Red Bud (just up from 79)
>and the field between 79 and the diamond (towards the south).
>
>- Barney
>"Bourne Identity" <siriusly@siriusradioisbest.com> wrote in message
>news:6315a1dcqt32aqdtqsqai7r70cbmu5omji@4ax.com...
>


Kathleen

2005-06-16, 2:31 pm

We have seen one in our backyard in Wimberley.
With hope and heart,
Kathleen
quote:

> There are foxs in the woods around the houses on Red Bud (just up from 79)
> and the field between 79 and the diamond (towards the south).
>
> - Barney



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