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| Noncompliant 2007-02-12, 9:25 am |
| Speaking of coffee, what about those coffee paper filters. Are they
biodegradable? The #4 cone filters seem to be much thicker, in some cases
visible sewn threads on the seams. The basket type seem much thinner. Want
to just dump contents each day in a container. Bury contents including
filters. Separating the used coffee grinds and filter always results in a
bit of mess. Presently using basket type.
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| Victor Martinez 2007-02-12, 9:25 am |
| Noncompliant wrote:
> Speaking of coffee, what about those coffee paper filters. Are they
> biodegradable? The #4 cone filters seem to be much thicker, in some cases
If it's paper it's biodegradable.
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| Jangchub 2007-02-12, 9:25 am |
| On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:22:26 GMT, "Noncompliant"
<spamyourself@blackworm.net> wrote:
>Speaking of coffee, what about those coffee paper filters. Are they
>biodegradable? The #4 cone filters seem to be much thicker, in some cases
>visible sewn threads on the seams. The basket type seem much thinner. Want
>to just dump contents each day in a container. Bury contents including
>filters. Separating the used coffee grinds and filter always results in a
>bit of mess. Presently using basket type.
You can buy any size cone any size which is made of mesh and is
reuseable over and over again. That's what we do. I believe there
are some biodegradable filters, maybe this info will be on the box.
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| Noncompliant 2007-02-13, 3:25 am |
| "Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:22:26 GMT, "Noncompliant"
> <spamyourself@blackworm.net> wrote:
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>
> You can buy any size cone any size which is made of mesh and is
> reuseable over and over again. That's what we do. I believe there
> are some biodegradable filters, maybe this info will be on the box.
We use those basket type. Get em at the local Dollar General for a dollar a
bag. No mention of material spec or biodegradability on plastic bag
container.
Coffee makers here last about 2 years before something breaks like the
heating element. My priors were cone, my last and current choice has the
basket type.
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| George.com 2007-02-13, 9:25 am |
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"Noncompliant" <spamyourself@blackworm.net> wrote in message
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> Speaking of coffee, what about those coffee paper filters. Are they
> biodegradable? The #4 cone filters seem to be much thicker, in some cases
> visible sewn threads on the seams. The basket type seem much thinner.
Want
> to just dump contents each day in a container. Bury contents including
> filters. Separating the used coffee grinds and filter always results in a
> bit of mess. Presently using basket type.
make coffee, enjoy coffee (with a cigarette always helps), dispose off
coffee grounds and filter in appropriate receptacle, add coffee and filter
to compost/trench/direct to garden as mulch etc.
rob
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| Jangchub 2007-02-13, 9:25 am |
| On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 07:10:39 -0600, Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com>
wrote:
>Noncompliant wrote:
>
>If it's paper it's biodegradable.
They would, but most of them are not 100% paper and contain something
which has synthetic material for sturdiness. It's best to have a
reuseable filter and keep a small bucket under the sink. When there
are enough grinds, take them out and dig them in where a plant looks
chlorotic as the grinds are nitrogen containing and worms love them,
bringing their amazing ability to loosen soil and leave castings.
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| putt@webtv.net 2007-02-13, 1:25 pm |
| >If it's paper it's biodegradable.
100% right! Paper is wood-pulp(organic). There is no synthetic
material introduced into the pulp-batch to make it 'sturdy'. Coffee
filters are sturdy because they are thicker....period. Compost them or
dig them into the soil, either way is good.
Dave S(Texas)
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| Jangchub 2007-02-13, 5:25 pm |
| On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:12:57 -0600, putt@webtv.net wrote:
>
>100% right! Paper is wood-pulp(organic). There is no synthetic
>material introduced into the pulp-batch to make it 'sturdy'. Coffee
>filters are sturdy because they are thicker....period. Compost them or
>dig them into the soil, either way is good.
>
>Dave S(Texas)
They also have chlorine and other preservative matter. Do whatever.
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| putt@webtv.net 2007-02-13, 8:25 pm |
| >They also have chlorine and other
> preservative matter
No 'they' do not.....where do you come up with this stuff?? Paper
filters are paper, period!
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| Omelet 2007-02-13, 9:25 pm |
| In article <cca4t2hsbe4m19rdfoemu4pgvui60nehh9@4ax.com>,
Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:12:57 -0600, putt@webtv.net wrote:
>
>
> They also have chlorine and other preservative matter. Do whatever.
Not if you use the unbleached ones...
Those make better tasting coffee anyway.
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| Omelet 2007-02-13, 9:25 pm |
| In article <28286-45D25A3E-166@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net>,
putt@webtv.net wrote:
>
> No 'they' do not.....where do you come up with this stuff?? Paper
> filters are paper, period!
>
>
She's right about the _white_ paper filters having some chemical content.
Seriously, try the brown unbleached filters. You can taste the
difference. :-)
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| Jangchub 2007-02-14, 3:25 am |
| On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:39:26 -0600, putt@webtv.net wrote:
>
>No 'they' do not.....where do you come up with this stuff?? Paper
>filters are paper, period!
>
>
Really. What pulp from what tree is white? It's always best to
really be sure before posting idle nonsense.
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| Justin Wilson 2007-02-14, 9:25 am |
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:39:26 -0600, putt@webtv.net wrote:
>
>
> Really. What pulp from what tree is white? It's always best to
> really be sure before posting idle nonsense.
I wonder if my shirt contains bleach right now.
I washed once a long time ago with a little bleach. I hope its still not in
the shirt.
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| putt@webtv.net 2007-02-14, 9:25 am |
| >What pulp from what tree is white? It's
> always best to really be sure before
> posting idle nonsense.
Idle nonsense...
Let's review, your answers so far have included (2) >"They
would(biodegrade), but >most of them are not 100% paper and
> contain
>something which has synthetic material
>? for sturdiness."
I attempted to educate you about paper filters by informing that paper
filters are only paper/contain no synthetic materials/are thick for
sturdiness.
(2) >"They also have chlorine and other
> preservative matter."
Oxygen is used to whiten paper coffee filters. I've been breathing that
for over 60yrs, so I'm pretty certain it is safe. "Preservative
matter"? Exactly what would be the reason to preserve paper coffee
filters?
So: synthetic material/chlorine/preservative matter? All absurd!
Bottom line here is that you are uninformed. Using a 'handle' like you
do, I would think you tended toward being enlightnened, but I guess it's
just a handle...
The 'idle nonsense' lays on your doorstep....
Dave S(Texas)
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| Jangchub 2007-02-14, 1:25 pm |
| On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:22:31 GMT, "Justin Wilson" <lTw@msn.com> wrote:
>I wonder if my shirt contains bleach right now.
>I washed once a long time ago with a little bleach. I hope its still not in
>the shirt.
All cotton production uses chlorine bleach, it is found in everything
white unless indicated to be certified organic. There are about 4
other pesticides found in all cotton. Your shirt would absolutely
test positive for chlorine bleach. I have no doubt about it. If you
think your sarcasm is needed in a discussion, it may be best to not be
in a discussion. Facts are not theories.
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| Jangchub 2007-02-14, 1:25 pm |
| I also said do whatever webtv.
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:31:08 -0600, putt@webtv.net wrote:
>
>Idle nonsense...
>
>Let's review, your answers so far have included (2) >"They
>would(biodegrade), but >most of them are not 100% paper and
>I attempted to educate you about paper filters by informing that paper
>filters are only paper/contain no synthetic materials/are thick for
>sturdiness.
>
>(2) >"They also have chlorine and other
>
>Oxygen is used to whiten paper coffee filters. I've been breathing that
>for over 60yrs, so I'm pretty certain it is safe. "Preservative
>matter"? Exactly what would be the reason to preserve paper coffee
>filters?
>
>So: synthetic material/chlorine/preservative matter? All absurd!
>
>Bottom line here is that you are uninformed. Using a 'handle' like you
>do, I would think you tended toward being enlightnened, but I guess it's
>just a handle...
>
>The 'idle nonsense' lays on your doorstep....
>
>Dave S(Texas)
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| Omelet 2007-02-14, 1:25 pm |
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In article <tjd6t29ag9h9727rtplhgkb6ss9d9f1nm6@4ax.com>,
Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:22:31 GMT, "Justin Wilson" <lTw@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> All cotton production uses chlorine bleach, it is found in everything
> white unless indicated to be certified organic. There are about 4
> other pesticides found in all cotton. Your shirt would absolutely
> test positive for chlorine bleach. I have no doubt about it. If you
> think your sarcasm is needed in a discussion, it may be best to not be
> in a discussion. Facts are not theories.
Except that Chlorine bleach readily evaporates...
It's why it has to be constantly replaced in swimming pools.
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| God Bless Texas 2007-02-15, 5:25 pm |
| On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:22:43 -0600, Jangchub wrote:
> I also said do whatever webtv.
Isn't there an alt.condescension group somewhere that needs your input?
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| Jangchub 2007-02-15, 5:25 pm |
| On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:08:19 -0600, God Bless Texas
<no.one.no.how@no.where.no.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:22:43 -0600, Jangchub wrote:
>
>
>Isn't there an alt.condescension group somewhere that needs your input?
I'll see you there.
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| Noncompliant 2007-02-16, 3:25 am |
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:08:19 -0600, God Bless Texas
> <no.one.no.how@no.where.no.org> wrote:
>
>
> I'll see you there.
Sure everyone has seen the Geico TV commercial about caveman. The most
recent commercial with comment about someone waking up on the wrong side of
the rock seems appropriate here. The person making the comment doesn't
address the conversation, rather, makes comment on an understandable
emmotional state with ridicule. I didn't think it was funny.
I just wanted to know something about biodegradability of coffee filters.
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| Jangchub 2007-02-16, 9:25 am |
| On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:46:04 GMT, "Noncompliant"
<spamyourself@blackworm.net> wrote:
>Sure everyone has seen the Geico TV commercial about caveman. The most
>recent commercial with comment about someone waking up on the wrong side of
>the rock seems appropriate here. The person making the comment doesn't
>address the conversation, rather, makes comment on an understandable
>emmotional state with ridicule. I didn't think it was funny.
>
>I just wanted to know something about biodegradability of coffee filters.
I think you now have ample information. The best thing is to buy a
reusable filter to fit your basket type. Or, do an experiement and
let us know how long it takes your "paper" filter to degrade. You are
in charge of this research now.
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| Omelet 2007-02-16, 1:25 pm |
| In article <20gbt2pq55ceephqqcfo0fuledr90ucrha@4ax.com>,
Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:46:04 GMT, "Noncompliant"
> <spamyourself@blackworm.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think you now have ample information. The best thing is to buy a
> reusable filter to fit your basket type. Or, do an experiement and
> let us know how long it takes your "paper" filter to degrade. You are
> in charge of this research now.
The plastic and/or metal screened reusable filters are a godsend... and
eliminate the whole issue of paper filters.
Plus they make the coffee taste better.
Another option is to give up coffee. I had to do that about 14 years ago
at the advice of a gastroenterologist.
Oddly enough, I got to give up the doctor when I gave up coffee.
He was right.
He told me it was not the caffeine so decaffeinated was out too.
I drink green tea now or take green tea extract and it works better than
coffee ever dreamed of doing.
And its good for you.
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| Shawn Martin 2007-02-22, 9:25 am |
| Non compliant wrote:
> Speaking of coffee, what about those coffee paper filters. Are they
> biodegradable? The #4 cone filters seem to be much thicker, in some cases
> visible sewn threads on the seams. The basket type seem much thinner. Want
> to just dump contents each day in a container. Bury contents including
> filters. Separating the used coffee grinds and filter always results in a
> bit of mess. Presently using basket type.
>
Yes. Compost or bury it. Great food for earthworms
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| Shawn Martin 2007-02-22, 9:25 am |
| Omelet wrote:
> In article <cca4t2hsbe4m19rdfoemu4pgvui60nehh9@4ax.com>,
> Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:
>
>
> Not if you use the unbleached ones...
> Those make better tasting coffee anyway.
Hey OM. You are right about the taste. The bleached ones do break down
completely too.
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| Omelet 2007-02-22, 9:25 am |
| In article <8e2f$45dd9386$cf9b7bb0$19069@ALLTEL.NET>,
Shawn Martin <painless_spam@starband.net> wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
>
> Hey OM. You are right about the taste. The bleached ones do break down
> completely too.
I just feel better about using the unbleached filters in my garden
soil... :-)
Cheers!
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