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diana512@gmail.com

2007-04-01, 5:25 pm

Hi I'm new to this group. We have over a acre of land and I'd like to
plant bamboo along a fence line. Does anyone have bamboo they don't
want or know of a place I can buy it. Any other ideas for screening a
fence line will be appreciated. Thanks Diana

WoolyGooly

2007-04-01, 5:25 pm

On 1 Apr 2007 12:10:56 -0700, "diana512@gmail.com"
<Diana512@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi I'm new to this group. We have over a acre of land and I'd like to
>plant bamboo along a fence line. Does anyone have bamboo they don't
>want or know of a place I can buy it. Any other ideas for screening a
>fence line will be appreciated. Thanks Diana

Anything but bamboo, really. The stuff is highly invasive and your
neighbors will hate you. In a couple of years when the stuff is
coming up in places you don't want it you'll be tempted to slit your
own throat...

Hit a good nursery and ask for recommendations. The "new" Home Depot
at Mopac/Braker has at least one actual landscaper/gardener working
the garden area.

diana512@gmail.com

2007-04-01, 5:25 pm

On Apr 1, 2:38 pm, WoolyGooly <boog...@lots.of.snot> wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2007 12:10:56 -0700, "diana...@gmail.com"
>
> <Diana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anything but bamboo, really. The stuff is highly invasive and your
> neighbors will hate you. In a couple of years when the stuff is
> coming up in places you don't want it you'll be tempted to slit your
> own throat...
>
> Hit a good nursery and ask for recommendations. The "new" Home Depot
> at Mopac/Braker has at least one actual landscaper/gardener working
> the garden area.

The place where I want to cover is a fence facing a road. I don't have
close any neighbors. The closest ones ones are 2 acres away. Something
invasive doesn't matter :-) I've done a little homework about bamboo.
And know about planting it in a trench that been lined with plastic
and filled with dirt.

Jangchub

2007-04-01, 8:25 pm

On 1 Apr 2007 12:55:23 -0700, "diana512@gmail.com"
<Diana512@gmail.com> wrote:

>The place where I want to cover is a fence facing a road. I don't have
>close any neighbors. The closest ones ones are 2 acres away. Something
>invasive doesn't matter :-) I've done a little homework about bamboo.
>And know about planting it in a trench that been lined with plastic
>and filled with dirt.

If you do use bamboo, and you can afford it, black bamboo is just
beautiful. There are other very large varieties which are considered
structural bamboo which is used in Asia to actually build houses, and
their floors, instead of wood, are bamboo.

Check with Zilker Gardens to see if they've had their Bamboo Festival
yet. I wouldn't use common yellow bamboo. It gets really ratty
looking, but really be careful, it is much more invasive when it grows
in our USDA Zone 8b, than you may be reading about. That I know of,
none of the clumping bamboo's stay in a clump in our climate, they all
run to one degree or another.

Maybe Victor has some and knows more.

Victor Martinez

2007-04-01, 8:25 pm

diana512@gmail.com wrote:
> The place where I want to cover is a fence facing a road. I don't have
> close any neighbors. The closest ones ones are 2 acres away. Something
> invasive doesn't matter :-) I've done a little homework about bamboo.

Do you want 2 acres of bamboo forest? Thick enough so that you can't
walk through your property at all?

> And know about planting it in a trench that been lined with plastic
> and filled with dirt.

To contain bamboo you need a trench at least 2 feet deep, lined with
very thick plastic, you have to buy it from a specialty source. Even
then it's no guarantee, it can and will jump the barrier and spread.

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Victor Martinez

2007-04-01, 8:25 pm

Jangchub wrote:
> Maybe Victor has some and knows more.

We had a bunch of black bamboo, but we gave most of it away. The ones we
kept are too small to divide now.

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Jangchub

2007-04-01, 9:25 pm

On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:17:49 -0500, Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Jangchub wrote:
>
>We had a bunch of black bamboo, but we gave most of it away. The ones we
>kept are too small to divide now

How difficult is it to manage? I'd love to plant some, but I am
afraid what will happen.

Victoria.

Victor Martinez

2007-04-02, 3:25 am

Jangchub wrote:
> How difficult is it to manage? I'd love to plant some, but I am
> afraid what will happen.

It can do well on a large container, if you don't want to mess with
digging trenches. Otherwise, I don't think it's any worse than other
types of bamboo. It certainly is prettier!

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Justin Wilson

2007-04-02, 3:25 am

"diana512@gmail.com" <Diana512@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175454656.792957.5940@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi I'm new to this group. We have over a acre of land and I'd like to
> plant bamboo along a fence line. Does anyone have bamboo they don't
> want or know of a place I can buy it. Any other ideas for screening a
> fence line will be appreciated. Thanks Diana

I'd recommend Phyllostachys nigra (Black Bamboo).

http://www.bamboogardenswa.com/timber.html

WoolyGooly

2007-04-02, 9:25 am

On 1 Apr 2007 12:55:23 -0700, "diana512@gmail.com"
<Diana512@gmail.com> wrote:

>The place where I want to cover is a fence facing a road. I don't have
>close any neighbors. The closest ones ones are 2 acres away. Something
>invasive doesn't matter :-) I've done a little homework about bamboo.
>And know about planting it in a trench that been lined with plastic
>and filled with dirt.

Then you know that given enough time it will break out of plastic. It
will also break out of cement-lined trenches given enough time, which
in the case of your standard nasty weedy yellow bamboo is ~5 years.
My in-laws' neighbors trenched 3' deep, installed cement/concrete
retaining walls (not blocks and mortar, poured concrete), then planted
bamboo.

The shit is now all over their yard, my mother's-in-law yard, and the
two nearest neighbors behind the original planting.

Once it gets a roothold there's nearly no way to eradicate it.
Really. Use something else. Preserve your property value.

2007-04-02, 1:25 pm

diana512@gmail.com wrote:

> On Apr 1, 2:38 pm, WoolyGooly <boog...@lots.of.snot> wrote:
>
>
>
> The place where I want to cover is a fence facing a road. I don't have
> close any neighbors. The closest ones ones are 2 acres away. Something
> invasive doesn't matter :-) I've done a little homework about bamboo.
> And know about planting it in a trench that been lined with plastic
> and filled with dirt.
>

Good luck. My girlfriend's house had bamboo supposedly contained by
roofing tin, planted 2' straight down. It came under the tin. We
started trying to get rid of it about twelve years ago; the job's not
finished yet.

DT

Omelet

2007-04-02, 1:25 pm

In article <eurajf$72v$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
dt <daletx@ATnewsguy.com> wrote:

> diana512@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Good luck. My girlfriend's house had bamboo supposedly contained by
> roofing tin, planted 2' straight down. It came under the tin. We
> started trying to get rid of it about twelve years ago; the job's not
> finished yet.
>
> DT

Not even with Round Up? :-)

I've heard it has a guarantee...
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Jangchub

2007-04-02, 5:25 pm

Bamboo, in mild winter climate areas are like the Bermuda grass of
tall plants. Bamboo is a grass, I believe and it spreads by very
sturdy culms, at least I think that's what the runners are called.

I love the stuff, but it isn't anywhere in my yard.

I have one rather invasive weed, horsetail, but it is IN the pond with
no access to any soil anywhere and can't jump the pond on the sneak!

I think when people have their mind set, that's it. So, trying to
talk someone out of bamboo is futile.

oldhickory

2007-04-02, 5:25 pm

I was talked out of it. I'm SO glad. I fell in love with the gardens in
Japan when I visited there 20 years ago and have always wanted to replicate
some here but I know that bamboo would be insane to try (except, perhaps for
clumping if I have lots of maintainance time) so I gave up a few years ago.

I have a friend who didn't listen and he's been digging for years. The
neighbors finally moved. I've shown a couple of houses to clients that had
bamboo. Fortunately neither house was attractive to them so I didn't have
to sit them down and explain the curse of the bamboo in the back yard.....

When I need a fix I go to Zilker....
--
ie
ride fast, take chances.

"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
news:4oj213ppg786csnsgace3kf2b6qkuhuh6d@4ax.com...
> Bamboo, in mild winter climate areas are like the Bermuda grass of
> tall plants. Bamboo is a grass, I believe and it spreads by very
> sturdy culms, at least I think that's what the runners are called.
>
> I love the stuff, but it isn't anywhere in my yard.
>
> I have one rather invasive weed, horsetail, but it is IN the pond with
> no access to any soil anywhere and can't jump the pond on the sneak!
>
> I think when people have their mind set, that's it. So, trying to
> talk someone out of bamboo is futile.

Omelet

2007-04-02, 9:25 pm

In article <4oj213ppg786csnsgace3kf2b6qkuhuh6d@4ax.com>,
Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:

> Bamboo, in mild winter climate areas are like the Bermuda grass of
> tall plants. Bamboo is a grass, I believe and it spreads by very
> sturdy culms, at least I think that's what the runners are called.
>
> I love the stuff, but it isn't anywhere in my yard.
>
> I have one rather invasive weed, horsetail, but it is IN the pond with
> no access to any soil anywhere and can't jump the pond on the sneak!
>
> I think when people have their mind set, that's it. So, trying to
> talk someone out of bamboo is futile.

I tried to establish bamboo here...
I had a small clump going.

My border collie killed it.
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WoolyGooly

2007-04-03, 3:25 am

The dog did you a favor.

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:15:48 -0500, Omelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>I tried to establish bamboo here...
>I had a small clump going.
>
>My border collie killed it.

Justin Wilson

2007-04-03, 3:25 am

"dt" <daletx@ATnewsguy.com> wrote in message
news:eurajf$72v$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...> Good luck. My girlfriend's
house had bamboo supposedly contained by
> roofing tin, planted 2' straight down. It came under the tin. We started
> trying to get rid of it about twelve years ago; the job's not finished
> yet.

Bamboo can be a pain! Some things to consider. Black bamboo varieties will
be easier to manage - *never* water it. Use Total Wipeout or Roundup.
Also, after I mow, I just walk around with the loppers, any rhizomes spotted
get snipped. You have to take care of your grass, and bamboo is a grass
that requires attention also.

Omelet

2007-04-03, 9:25 am

In article <rqe31353mq7r8afhu79i1eh88netl4lj7b@4ax.com>,
WoolyGooly <boogers@lots.of.snot> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:15:48 -0500, Omelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The dog did you a favor.
>

I'm beginning to get that impression. <G>

Want to wipe out your bamboo?
Adopt a border collie from the animal shelter.
They destroy a lot of them every year because so many people get them as
cute puppies, then have no idea how to handle such a hyperactive dogs.

It's very sad.

http://i15.tinypic.com/2m4zy2r.jpg

:-)
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Jangchub

2007-04-03, 9:25 am

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:03:35 -0500, Omelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I'm beginning to get that impression. <G>
>
>Want to wipe out your bamboo?
>Adopt a border collie from the animal shelter.
>They destroy a lot of them every year because so many people get them as
>cute puppies, then have no idea how to handle such a hyperactive dogs.
>
>It's very sad.
>
>http://i15.tinypic.com/2m4zy2r.jpg
>
>:-)

NO NO, Border Collies are beautiful animals, but they need a job and
if they don't have one they make their own job. It's usually
destructive behavior and torture for the animal.

We would love to get another dog or two, but we have the parrot now
and she really doesn't like anyone other than us. A dog could do some
real damage to her if she ever tried to dive bomb a dog.

If we ever did get another dog it would be an adopted mutt, certainly
never buy a puppy from any breeder. There are enough shelters full to
the brim.

2007-04-03, 9:25 am

Omelet wrote:
> In article <eurajf$72v$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
> dt <daletx@ATnewsguy.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Not even with Round Up? :-)
>
> I've heard it has a guarantee...

Never touch the stuff. Digging, cutting, digging, cutting....
Fortunately, her neighbor to the rear has joined the fray. He's 20
years younger, and has been digging hers to keep it from spreading back
into his yard.

Six yards' worth of folks, all cussing the guy who planted this stuff
twenty years ago.

DT

Omelet

2007-04-03, 5:25 pm

In article <bnj413drsab6rilgtqvekqr41qtullp94q@4ax.com>,
Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:03:35 -0500, Omelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> NO NO, Border Collies are beautiful animals, but they need a job and
> if they don't have one they make their own job. It's usually
> destructive behavior and torture for the animal.

Jewely seems to do just fine (but I have a VERY large yard for her to
"patrol"). That is her job... Watch dog. She's also a great rat killer.

Better here than a pile of ashes in the critter crematorium. :-(
I got her when her "sentence" was ending. She'd been there 3 months and
was due to be put down at the end of that week.

>
> We would love to get another dog or two, but we have the parrot now
> and she really doesn't like anyone other than us. A dog could do some
> real damage to her if she ever tried to dive bomb a dog.

Uh, BC's are NOT indoor dogs. Way too active. She gets plenty of
attention but spends the majority of her time outdoors. I have .22
acres, fully fenced.

I have a Goffin's cockatoo but she was WAY too destructive so now lives
in a 4' x 8' x 6' aviary in the sun room. She was also a rescue.

>
> If we ever did get another dog it would be an adopted mutt, certainly
> never buy a puppy from any breeder. There are enough shelters full to
> the brim.

I think that was my point. :-) I've not had a puppy for a very long
time. I don't have the time or patience for one. Our last 5 dogs (4 of
which we still have) were adopted as adults. Jewels was 8 months old.

SO much easier to deal with and train, and they bond with their new
humans just fine.
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Victor Martinez

2007-04-03, 8:25 pm

Omelet wrote:
> My border collie killed it.

Can I borrow your dog?

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Victor Martinez

2007-04-03, 8:25 pm

Omelet wrote:
> I think that was my point. :-) I've not had a puppy for a very long
> time. I don't have the time or patience for one. Our last 5 dogs (4 of
> which we still have) were adopted as adults. Jewels was 8 months old.
>
> SO much easier to deal with and train, and they bond with their new
> humans just fine.

If only we could do that with children, I would definitely sign up!

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Omelet

2007-04-04, 3:25 am

In article <57g3a1F2bhh15U1@mid.individual.net>,
Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> Can I borrow your dog?

She'll lick you to death. :-)
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Omelet

2007-04-04, 3:25 am

In article <57g3d8F2bhh15U2@mid.individual.net>,
Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> If only we could do that with children, I would definitely sign up!

You can...
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Victor Martinez

2007-04-04, 9:25 am

Omelet wrote:
> You can...

Not with biological offspring.

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Omelet

2007-04-04, 1:25 pm

In article <57hje9F2d5q0lU1@mid.individual.net>,
Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> Not with biological offspring.

True! <G>
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