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maradcliff@UNLISTED.com

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).

Mark
Stephen King

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote in
news:c6q6d1lc1t9phkhji0uoenla3kae87fv2c@4ax.com:
quote:

> I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
> can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
> electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
> flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
> seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
> in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
> tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
> frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
> the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
> to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).
>
> Mark
>


Of course those small bugs can get in. geesh!
maradcliff@UNLISTED.com

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:40:53 GMT, Stephen King <sking@scary905.com>
wrote:
quote:

>maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote in
>news:c6q6d1lc1t9phkhji0uoenla3kae87fv2c@4ax.com:
>
>
>Of course those small bugs can get in. geesh!


And the solution is??????????????????????????????/

Mortimer Schnerd, RN

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
quote:

>
> And the solution is??????????????????????????????/



Spray.



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dadiOH

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
quote:

> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:40:53 GMT, Stephen King <sking@scary905.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> And the solution is??????????????????????????????/


Geckos. Lots of geckos

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Joseph Meehan

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
quote:

>I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
> can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
> electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
> flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
> seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
> in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
> tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
> frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
> the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
> to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).
>
> Mark


Some bugs are just too small for normal screens. I don't know if they
still make them, but I have seen special screens in the past to help solve
the problem.

I suggest your best answer may be to spray the screens with a repellent
and or an insectaside. Remember to seal around the screen as well.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit


dadiOH

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
quote:

> I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
> can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
> electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
> flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
> seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
> in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
> tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
> frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
> the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
> to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).


You need to find a finer mesh screen. Not going to be at Home Depot but
it's available. Not necessarily meant for windows.
http://www.wovenwire.com/reference/mesh-locator.htm
http://www.wovenwire.com/finemesh.htm

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Buck Turgidson

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

Turn on the fricking AC or get a small fan to blow on you.


Lar

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

In article <c6q6d1lc1t9phkhji0uoenla3kae87fv2c@4ax.com>,
maradcliff@UNLISTED.com says...
I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).

Mark

Could be fungus gnats coming from a plant you are watering too much or
have to keep water heavy...different types of gnats can also take up
residence inside the over flow area of sinks...need to figure the source
then address them there if these are the cases.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS
arizona

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

>>Of course those small bugs can get in. geesh!
quote:

>
> And the solution is??????????????????????????????/
>


move to Arizona

due to lack of water, almost no bugs exist in Arizona, especially no flying
bugs

we do have scorpions, black widows, and rattlesnakes

but no gnats, flys, wasps, moths, or other crap that requires a bug-zapper
in other parts of the country


No

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

Some said insecticide - I would probably try that if I couldn't find an
ultra fine mesh screen.

I would specifically try Permethrin - It should last a long time. You can
get a spray at places like Target or at camping supply stores. Its in the
camping gear section near the insect repellents. Its made for clothes, tent
screens and the like. Sold under lots of brand names. Sometimes used on
horses, for flies; on dogs and cats for fleas and ticks; on peoples cloths
as added protection against mosquitoes, etc. Its odorless IIRC.

<maradcliff@UNLISTED.com> wrote in message
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quote:

>I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
> can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
> electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
> flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
> seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
> in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
> tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
> frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
> the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
> to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).
>
> Mark



Goedjn

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

quote:

> in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
> tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
> frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
> the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
> to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).



If there's a water-source, deep plant cover, or a food-supply
near the window, get rid of it. If your window is the brightest
light in the immediate area, put another light somewhere nearby,
to lure the bugs away from that window. If all else fails,
try a furnace filter.


Matt

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

If you have any carrots in the house, get rid of them.

Bugs LOVES carrots.

G Henslee

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

Matt wrote:
quote:

> If you have any carrots in the house, get rid of them.
>
> Bugs LOVES carrots.
>


So do rabbits, but c'mon. Okay sure, I'll empty my frig crisper
immediately.
Matt

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

I should have been more specific.

You see, Bugs loves carrots - because HE IS a rabbit.

G Henslee

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

Matt wrote:
quote:

> I should have been more specific.
>
> You see, Bugs loves carrots - because HE IS a rabbit.
>


Nice one.
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

Matt wrote:
quote:

> I should have been more specific.
>
> You see, Bugs loves carrots - because HE IS a rabbit.



Go to your room.



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Matt

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

How do you catch a unique rabbit?

Duane Bozarth

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

Matt wrote:
quote:

>
> How do you catch a unique rabbit?


U 'nique up on 'im...
Matt

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

> How do you catch a unique rabbit?

Unique up on him.

G Henslee

2005-07-12, 6:25 pm

Duane Bozarth wrote:
quote:

> Matt wrote:
>
>
>
> U 'nique up on 'im...


It helps to line the rabbit hole with peas first. That way when you
'nique up on him you just kick him in the pea hole.
George E. Cawthon

2005-07-12, 6:26 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
quote:

> I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
> can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
> electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
> flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
> seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
> in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
> tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
> frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
> the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
> to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).
>
> Mark


You are not going to get those gnats through a
regular screen if it is tight in the frame. Most
likely the gnats are hatching inside the house.
We have a similar problem with gnats. They hatch
in potted plant soil, they hide in the window
slides. However, there is no evidence that they
come in from outside, except in the soil of potted
plants.

If you are sure that the screens are tight, the
vacuum everything and either spray the plants with
a bug killer or get rid of them. If by chance,
you don't have any potted plants, then the bugs
may be getting in on pets or humans.
George E. Cawthon

2005-07-12, 11:25 pm

Arizona wrote:
quote:

>
>
> move to Arizona
>
> due to lack of water, almost no bugs exist in Arizona, especially no flying
> bugs
>
> we do have scorpions, black widows, and rattlesnakes
>
> but no gnats, flys, wasps, moths, or other crap that requires a bug-zapper
> in other parts of the country
>
>

That is hardly true, unless you are standing in a
desert at high noon in the middle of summer.
Arizona is a big state and there are plenty of
moths and flies in some parts, but certainly not
like humid areas such as the mid-west and east..
2_Biz_E@allthetime.grr.

2005-07-12, 11:25 pm

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"George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
quote:

> Arizona wrote:
> That is hardly true, unless you are standing in a
> desert at high noon in the middle of summer.
> Arizona is a big state and there are plenty of
> moths and flies in some parts, but certainly not
> like humid areas such as the mid-west and east..

True..and the more golf courses they build the more humidity and bugs.
There is no getting away from the pesty flies...even in the Desert. (maybe
even worse.) At least from my experience living(nearby)Cochella one year in
a tent.

2_bized
Lar

2005-07-12, 11:25 pm

In article <db0pal$s49$1@domitilla.aioe.org>, no@email.com says...
I would specifically try Permethrin - It should last a long time.

Permethrin is on lower end of the pyrethroid group on insecticides...it
breaks down quickly.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS
maradcliff@UNLISTED.com

2005-07-13, 4:25 am

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:39:47 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
<GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
quote:

>maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
>
>You are not going to get those gnats through a
>regular screen if it is tight in the frame. Most
>likely the gnats are hatching inside the house.
>We have a similar problem with gnats. They hatch
>in potted plant soil, they hide in the window
>slides. However, there is no evidence that they
>come in from outside, except in the soil of potted
>plants.
>
>If you are sure that the screens are tight, the
>vacuum everything and either spray the plants with
>a bug killer or get rid of them. If by chance,
>you don't have any potted plants, then the bugs
>may be getting in on pets or humans.


I am sitting in front of that window right now. There is a fan turned
on at the other end of the house. The outer side of the screen is
covered with those bugs. There are probably 50 of them coming thru
the screen every minute and are flying in my face. I can see them
coming thru the screen. As I said in my original post, I put duct
tape around the whole aluminum screen frame. They are tiny nearly
white bugs with tiny legs. They are all over the wall, and I just
looked at one with a magnifying glass. They only come in at night.
The ceiling light fixture glass is half filled with them since I
emptied it 2 or 3 weeks ago. So, yes, they DO come right thru the
screen.

Rudy

2005-07-13, 4:25 am

quote:

> due to lack of water, almost no bugs exist in Arizona, especially no
> flying
> bugs ...no gnats, flys, wasps, moths, or other crap


There are plenty of gnats, flies, butterflies, moths, bees and wasps in
Tucson AZ. Just depends on what time of year it is.

Also, there is plenty of water in monsoon season which is just about to
begin.

R


mike

2005-07-13, 12:25 pm

Eat the bugs.
CL (dnoyeB) Gilbert

2005-07-13, 12:25 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
quote:

> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:40:53 GMT, Stephen King <sking@scary905.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> And the solution is??????????????????????????????/
>



ROFL, this is too funny. But I have the same problem, glad to see im
not alone. I basically have 2 windows in my computer room. Computer
generates HEAT too and its a pain.

Open during the day is fine, but at night with the room lights on I have
to shut the windows. I put an exhaust fan in one window and close the
other. So its blowing out, and I open a window in a part of the house
away from the trees, and that has no light on in that room.

Oh, and I turn on the A/C.

--
Respectfully,


CL Gilbert
Dan_Musicant

2005-07-13, 6:25 pm

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:59:30 -0500, maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:

:I just replaced the screen on my office window. This time of year I
:can not be online without the window open (I refuse to pay the
:electric for an AC). Anyhow, the old screen had a small hole and tiny
:flying bugs were getting in. I bought that plastic screen which
:seemed to have the smallest holes. These damn bugs are still getting
:in. They fly in my face and are totally irritating. I even put duct
:tape around the edge of the screen frame where it meets the window
:frame, which seemed to fit tight anyhow, but I am desprate. How in
:the hell does one keep them out of the house? This is really starting
:to piss me off. (They are very small flys or gnats, or something).
:
:Mark

You evidently have to use a smaller mesh screen. Experiment one window
at a time. Put a screen material over your window temporarily and close
all other access. If they are still getting in, go to a smaller mesh
until you find one tight enough and go with that. Of course, metal will
last longer than plastic but costs more.

No

2005-07-13, 6:26 pm

"Lar" <larlfu@comcastBUGS.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d3e0b6aa0366bb398977a@netnews.comcast.net...
quote:

> In article <db0pal$s49$1@domitilla.aioe.org>, no@email.com says...
> I would specifically try Permethrin - It should last a long time.
>
> Permethrin is on lower end of the pyrethroid group on insecticides...it
> breaks down quickly.
> --
> Lar
>
> to email....get rid of the BUGS


I suppose 'long' is relative. I would suspect it would last 2 or 3 weeks.
Something like Off or Yardguard will only last hours.

I do not know what "pyrethroid group " is but woudln't you agree ths is on
the right track?


Lar

2005-07-13, 11:25 pm

In article <db3q2m$3kh$1@domitilla.aioe.org>, no@email.com says...
I suppose 'long' is relative. I would suspect it would last 2 or 3 weeks.
Something like Off or Yardguard will only last hours.

I do not know what "pyrethroid group " is but woudln't you agree ths is on
the right track?



Pyrethrin is a natural insecticide that does not have a long residual to
it..."pyrethroid group" of insecticides are man made that mimic the
natural molecule but are more stable and so have a residual effect
to them. There are a number of them on the market where some only last
for a short period of time and others may work well for months
Pyrethroids can be recognised with the name ending in -thrin
....permethrin is a step above the natural and I would be surprised if
you would get more than a day or two of effectiveness in the exposed
outdoors...maybe a week or so inside.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS
Rick

2005-07-14, 12:25 pm

quote:

> I am using the smallest screen I can find. However, I do know what
> would work if I could find some. Nylon stockings like women wear.
> The problem is where to find stockings big enough to put over a
> screen. Does anyone have a wife that sews? I am wondering if the

raw
quote:

> nylon material is available to buy, and where?
>
> Mark


Take a look at some landscaping fabric cloth. I can't remember how
fine a mesh that is offhand...


wkearney99

2005-07-14, 12:25 pm

> I am using the smallest screen I can find. However, I do know what
quote:

> would work if I could find some. Nylon stockings like women wear.


OK, how about attacking it from another angle? How about killing the bugs
instead? Perhaps a bug zapper somewhere else nearby would help draw them
away from the house window? Even if it means leaving a light on out there
to draw them.

Duane Bozarth

2005-07-14, 12:25 pm

wkearney99 wrote:
quote:

>
>
> OK, how about attacking it from another angle? How about killing the bugs
> instead? Perhaps a bug zapper somewhere else nearby would help draw them
> away from the house window? Even if it means leaving a light on out there
> to draw them.


Almost certainly such are not light-driven and very small insects aren't
affected by the "zappers" as they're not large enough to short across
the adjacent electrodes. A "sucker" type <might> have a small effect,
but probably not observable in level of nuisance.

imo, ymmv, $0.02, etc., ...
maradcliff@UNLISTED.com

2005-07-15, 12:25 pm

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:02 GMT, "Rick" <notta@goodone.com> wrote:
quote:

>
>raw
>
>Take a look at some landscaping fabric cloth. I can't remember how
>fine a mesh that is offhand...
>



I solved the problem. I was at Walmart when I went into the fabric
dept. I asked the clerk for nylon stocking type material. They sell
something very similar, it's cheap, and works great. The woman at the
counter told me it's better than stockings, because it wont run like
stockings do.

I just wrapped it around the screen frame. put a little duct tape in
the corners and put the screen back in the window.

Problem solved..... goodbye ennoying bugs......
Peter Principle

2005-07-15, 12:25 pm

maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote in
news:d7ped1d3b69oge0nvmiva7que9hslap7kl@4ax.com:
quote:

> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:39:02 GMT, "Rick" <notta@goodone.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I solved the problem. I was at Walmart when I went into the fabric
> dept. I asked the clerk for nylon stocking type material. They sell
> something very similar, it's cheap, and works great. The woman at the
> counter told me it's better than stockings, because it wont run like
> stockings do.
>
> I just wrapped it around the screen frame. put a little duct tape in
> the corners and put the screen back in the window.
>
> Problem solved..... goodbye ennoying bugs......
>


Face it, gaylord. You're prancing around in a pair of stockings right
now.
maradcliff@UNLISTED.com

2005-07-16, 4:25 am

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:20:41 -0400, Peter Principle
<petesfeets@CUTITOUThotmail.com> wrote:
quote:

>maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote in
>news:d7ped1d3b69oge0nvmiva7que9hslap7kl@4ax.com:
>
>
>Face it, gaylord. You're prancing around in a pair of stockings right
>now.



Ohhhhhh La La....
I feel so KING KEEEE !!!!
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