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What are these things I bought at an auction?
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| toller 2005-07-13, 4:25 am |
| At an auction tonight the auctioneer was about to no-bid a large lot of
crap, so I offered $1 figuring there had to be something in there worth $1.
Immediately 2 people offered me $3 for stuff I would have left behind
otherwise; so I actually paid -$2. I can't imagine why they didn't bid,
except maybe they didn't want it all.
Included was about 150' of hardwood dowels in various sizes that I will use
eventually, 5 rolls of screening I need to repair all my cottage screens, a
50' rubber air hose, and a plastic barrel that I was planning on buying for
a swim platform (well that is a mixed blessing; now I have to buy 3 more for
about $15 each). Also a few other things that I will hold to because they
are too nice to throw out; like 100' of heavy rope, a new wax toilet seal,
and hardware for bifold doors. Not bad for -$2.
But also included were two other items, and I hope someone can tell me what
these are:
A 6 piece Lenox Vari-Bit kit. I know they are for drilling holes in sheet
metal (at least I think that is what they are for) but why 6 pieces that are
all more or less the same size?
20' of #2 welding cable. The scrap copper ought to be worth $5 by itself,
but what is it used for?
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| Duane Bozarth 2005-07-13, 4:25 am |
| toller wrote:
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quote:
> A 6 piece Lenox Vari-Bit kit. I know they are for drilling holes in sheet
> metal (at least I think that is what they are for) but why 6 pieces that are
> all more or less the same size?
That I don't know...
quote:
> 20' of #2 welding cable. The scrap copper ought to be worth $5 by itself,
> but what is it used for?
Its name just <might> be a klew???
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| Warren Weber 2005-07-13, 4:25 am |
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quote:
> 20' of #2 welding cable. The scrap copper ought to be worth $5 by itself,
> but what is it used for?
Jumper cables for next winter?
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| On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:21:30 +0000, toller wrote:
quote:
> A 6 piece Lenox Vari-Bit kit. I know they are for drilling holes in sheet
> metal (at least I think that is what they are for) but why 6 pieces that are
> all more or less the same size?
Whatever you do, don't put "lenox vari-bit" into a Google search. You
might figure it out without looking foolish.
quote:
> 20' of #2 welding cable. The scrap copper ought to be worth $5 by itself,
> but what is it used for?
What the fuck would you *think* welding cables are used for? You're a
real winner, aren't ya?
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If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951
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| toller 2005-07-13, 4:25 am |
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"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:21:30 +0000, toller wrote:
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> Whatever you do, don't put "lenox vari-bit" into a Google search. You
> might figure it out without looking foolish.
>
I did, and it doesn't. I only look foolish to a fool.
quote:
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> What the fuck would you *think* welding cables are used for? You're a
> real winner, aren't ya?
>
Damn you are an XXXXXXX. Obviously they are used for welding, but what
makes them different from any other electrical cable? If you don't know the
answer than shut the hell up. And if you do know the answer, then give it
instead of being a jerk.
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"toller" <toller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.07.13.03.55.49.962082@invalid.lan...
in[vbcol=seagreen]
pieces that[vbcol=seagreen]
You[vbcol=seagreen]
> I did, and it doesn't. I only look foolish to a fool.
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by[vbcol=seagreen]
You're a[vbcol=seagreen]
> Damn you are an XXXXXXX. Obviously they are used for welding, but
what
quote:
> makes them different from any other electrical cable? If you don't
know the
quote:
> answer than shut the hell up. And if you do know the answer, then
give it
quote:
> instead of being a jerk.
They're a lot more flexible-much finer wire than a #2 conductor used
in electrical wiring...
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| toller 2005-07-13, 4:25 am |
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"Rick" <notta@goodone.com> wrote in message
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> "toller" <toller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hL0Be.1441$j21.1185@news01.roc.ny...
> in
> pieces that
> You
> by
> You're a
> what
> know the
> give it
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> They're a lot more flexible-much finer wire than a #2 conductor used
> in electrical wiring...
>
Can they be used as a #2 cable, in the unlikely instance I ever need one?
Thanks.
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| SteveB 2005-07-13, 4:25 am |
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"Rick" <notta@goodone.com> wrote
quote:
> They're a lot more flexible-much finer wire than a #2 conductor used
> in electrical wiring...
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>
All welding cables I have seen have been made up of fine strands of copper.
I don't believe I have ever seen one like them wired in a building. I think
it would be so they are pliable, and easy to bend.
I once bought two PALLETS of welding cable at a government auction at the
Nevada Test Site. My pickup was groaning and farting by the time I got back
to Vegas.
I made a little more than gas money on that deal. ;-)
Steve
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| In article <hL0Be.1441$j21.1185@news01.roc.ny>, toller@yahoo.com
says...
quote:
> Damn you are an XXXXXXX. Obviously they are used for welding, but what
> makes them different from any other electrical cable? If you don't know the
> answer than shut the hell up. And if you do know the answer, then give it
> instead of being a jerk.
toller == TROLLER ???
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| Dan C 2005-07-13, 12:25 pm |
| On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:27:57 +0000, toller wrote:
quote:
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> I did, and it doesn't. I only look foolish to a fool.
Then you're even more ignorant than it appears. That search produces all
the info you could ever want on that.
quote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Damn you are an XXXXXXX. Obviously they are used for welding, but what
> makes them different from any other electrical cable?
You didn't ask "what makes them different", dipshit. You asked "what is
it used for". Look above at your words that I quoted. Were you born this
stupid?
--
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951
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| wkearney99 2005-07-13, 12:25 pm |
| > You didn't ask "what makes them different", dipshit. You asked "what is
quote:
> it used for". Look above at your words that I quoted. Were you born this
> stupid?
He may have been borne stupid but you sure seem to have grown into quite the
XXXXXXX.
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| Another winning post from the useless Dan C.
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:55:49 -0500, Dan C <cocksucking@XXXXXXX.net> wrote:
quote:
>On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:21:30 +0000, toller wrote:
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>Whatever you do, don't put "lenox vari-bit" into a Google search. You
>might figure it out without looking foolish.
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>
>What the fuck would you *think* welding cables are used for? You're a
>real winner, aren't ya?
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| David Martel 2005-07-13, 12:25 pm |
| Toller,
The Lenox web site shows a 6 piece kit. The diameter and the angle of the
cone vary from bit to bit. I'm no expert but I suspect the small dia., acute
angles are to drill through tougher material.
#2 welding cable is a #2 gauge cable that is suitable for welding. I've
seen it used in auto jumper cables. As copper it has value. I do not know if
it can be used in situations where a continuous current is intended.
Dave M.
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| SteveB 2005-07-13, 12:25 pm |
| >> You didn't ask "what makes them different", dipshit. You asked "what is[vbcol=seagreen]
What was it in your case? Were you born stupid, or did you just practice a
lot?
Steve
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| Chip C 2005-07-13, 6:25 pm |
| If they don't carry the right markings then they would not be
code-compliant for household wiring. I would *assume* that with the
right terminations they would make a fine set of jumper cables, but
there may be caveats that I'm not thinking of. Actually, I am thinking
of one: the insulation is probably not weather-rated and probably not
flexible in the cold, so you might be risking it cracking and exposing
the conductor when you boost your car next January.
I would also expect jumper-cable clamps to cost more than pre-assembled
cables in a carrying case. That's what I always find when I try to make
something out of what I already have.
Chip C
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| Duane Bozarth 2005-07-13, 6:25 pm |
| Chip C wrote:
quote:
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> If they don't carry the right markings then they would not be
> code-compliant for household wiring. I would *assume* that with the
> right terminations they would make a fine set of jumper cables, but
> there may be caveats that I'm not thinking of. Actually, I am thinking
> of one: the insulation is probably not weather-rated and probably not
> flexible in the cold, so you might be risking it cracking and exposing
> the conductor when you boost your car next January.
Most welding cable is quite nice, actually. I suppose there is cheap
Chinese crap available these days, too, but normally it is very good
stuff.
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| On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:43:34 -0500, Duane Bozarth <dpbozarth@swko.dot.net>
wrote:
quote:
>Chip C wrote:
>
>Most welding cable is quite nice, actually. I suppose there is cheap
>Chinese crap available these days, too, but normally it is very good
>stuff.
The only problem with welding cable is that it's not designed to take 650A+
at 12VDC. The hair thin copper wire is designed for high welding loads,
but believe it or not, starting a car draws higher current.
I suppose for a quick jump, it may not be an issue. I wouldn't want to use
it on a regular basis (as some hot-rodders do) to relocate a battery for
weight distribution.
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| "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.13.11.22.32.892307@invalid.lan...
quote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:27:57 +0000, toller wrote:
>
>
>
> Then you're even more ignorant than it appears. That search produces all
> the info you could ever want on that.
The guy was asking a question. If he wasn't ignorant, he wouldn't need to
ask.
On the other hand, you appear ten times as ignorant, because instead of
answering his simple questions, you blasted him.
quote:
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>
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> You didn't ask "what makes them different", dipshit. You asked "what is
> it used for". Look above at your words that I quoted. Were you born this
> stupid?
Perhaps if you were just a bit smarter, you could look past exact wording,
which is fine in contracts but doesn't always happen in Usenet, and decide
that he would like to know what ELSE they could be used for, or why they are
different. Your thoughtless knee-jerk reaction shows you go to newsgroups
just to slam people who's only crime is asking questions. You might want to
try surfing porn sites instead. It would be far less pathetic.
Pagan
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| SteveB 2005-07-13, 6:26 pm |
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"Pagan" <adsa@deputysheriff.org> wrote
quote:
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> The guy was asking a question. If he wasn't ignorant, he wouldn't need to
> ask.
>
Ignorant, to me, means never having heard the answer to something. Once you
have heard it, you aren't ignorant any more if you don't choose to take it
in, but only dumb.
Truly stupid people are ones who refuse to learn.
And "ignorant" can also mean those who think they know everything. IMHO,
anyway.
We all can learn something every day. Lots of things every day. By
observing. By asking questions. By reading. Where would we be, though, if
all the smartass pompous ignorant know-it-alls were in charge instead of
people willing to pass along knowledge in the sacred relationship of
teacher/disciple. (disciple means student in the dictionary, and has
nothing to do with religion, BTW)
I hope I never stop learning.
Steve
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| Pagan 2005-07-13, 11:25 pm |
| "SteveB" <desertNOSPAMtraveler@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Pagan" <adsa@deputysheriff.org> wrote
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to[vbcol=seagreen]
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> Ignorant, to me, means never having heard the answer to something.
I dislike using the word ignorant. Most folks consider it an insult, even
when they don't think they know everything.
quote:
> Once you
> have heard it, you aren't ignorant any more if you don't choose to take it
> in, but only dumb.
>
> Truly stupid people are ones who refuse to learn.
>
> And "ignorant" can also mean those who think they know everything. IMHO,
> anyway.
>
> We all can learn something every day. Lots of things every day. By
> observing. By asking questions. By reading. Where would we be, though,
if
quote:
> all the smartass pompous ignorant know-it-alls were in charge instead of
> people willing to pass along knowledge in the sacred relationship of
> teacher/disciple. (disciple means student in the dictionary, and has
> nothing to do with religion, BTW)
Well said.
Pagan
quote:
> I hope I never stop learning.
>
> Steve
>
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| Dan C 2005-07-13, 11:25 pm |
| On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:31:17 -0700, Pagan wrote:
quote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]
> The guy was asking a question. If he wasn't ignorant, he wouldn't need to
> ask.
OK, let me rephrase that. Not being able to put that simple search into
Google, and get something useful from it, makes one "stupid" instead of
"ignorant". You're absolutely correct.
quote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Perhaps if you were just a bit smarter, you could look past exact wording,
> which is fine in contracts but doesn't always happen in Usenet, and decide
> that he would like to know what ELSE they could be used for, or why they are
> different.
I'm not a mind reader, and my crystal ball is in for repairs. How can you
know what he "meant". All we can go by (here on Usenet) is what is "said".
quote:
> Your thoughtless knee-jerk reaction shows you go to newsgroups
> just to slam people who's only crime is asking questions.
It does? You can deduce that simply by reading one post by me? Wow.
quote:
> You might want to try surfing porn sites instead.
Nah, I don't want to imitate you. I'm my own person.
quote:
> It would be far less pathetic.
Well, you would know, huh?
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If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951
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| PrecisionMachinisT 2005-07-14, 4:25 am |
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"Duane Bozarth" <dpbozarth@swko.dot.net> wrote in message
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> toller wrote:
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sheet[vbcol=seagreen]
are[vbcol=seagreen]
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> That I don't know...
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itself,[vbcol=seagreen]
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Makes for a nice set of jumper cables.
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SVL
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| PrecisionMachinisT 2005-07-14, 4:25 am |
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"SteveB" <desertNOSPAMtraveler@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Rick" <notta@goodone.com> wrote
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> All welding cables I have seen have been made up of fine strands of
copper.
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> I don't believe I have ever seen one like them wired in a building. I
think
quote:
> it would be so they are pliable, and easy to bend.
>
Very common to see it used inside of machinery panels, etc. and for the
exact reason being that its much easier to get tight bends thus making it
easier to terminate within confined spaces.
Guessing that wire designation would be "type S" or "type SO".
--
SVL
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| you're.shitting.me@damnfool.com 2005-07-15, 12:25 pm |
| On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:55:49 -0500, Dan C
<youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote:
quote:
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>What the fuck would you *think* welding cables are used for? You're a
>real winner, aren't ya?
I bet he's blonde and so is his wife !!!
I am afraid to think about the offspring......
(and for the record, an OFFSPRING is the spring they use to turn OFF a
Welder)..... 
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| TPutmann@AmericaOffline.com 2005-07-15, 12:25 pm |
| On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:17:31 -0400, "wkearney99"
<wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:
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>He may have been borne stupid but you sure seem to have grown into quite the
>XXXXXXX.
WOW, there are a lot of assholes in this world !!!
But just think how painful it would be if you did not have at least
one XXXXXXX.
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| maradcliff@UNLISTED.com 2005-07-15, 12:25 pm |
| On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:42:13 -0400, Mark <me@privacy.net> wrote:
quote:
>On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:43:34 -0500, Duane Bozarth <dpbozarth@swko.dot.net>
>wrote:
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>The only problem with welding cable is that it's not designed to take 650A+
>at 12VDC. The hair thin copper wire is designed for high welding loads,
>but believe it or not, starting a car draws higher current.
>
>I suppose for a quick jump, it may not be an issue. I wouldn't want to use
>it on a regular basis (as some hot-rodders do) to relocate a battery for
>weight distribution.
I actually think it would do very well as jumper cables. I once made
some out of #6 building wire, and they did a fine job, except they
were so damn stiff to handle. Commercial jumper cables have fine
stranded wire. However, I would NOT use welding cable to wire a home.
While electrically it would probably work just fine, it would likely
fail the codes.
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