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How difficult to stucco?
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| James \Cubby\ Culbertson 2005-07-19, 4:25 am |
| Hiya,
I'm in the process of building an adobe courtyard wall at my house. I
intend to have it stucco'ed when it's complete.
I do 99% of all the work at my house myself (I didn't pump the septic system
myself or it would have been 100%  ).
Initially I thought about hiring someone to do the stucco work as I've never
worked with it before. But then as I continue on with the wall, I'm
beginning to think about doing it myself to save a bit of $$. I have a
high respect for plasterer's as I have never managed to get the hang of
plastering. To me, it seems like a real art. Am I crazy to consider
this? I would be going with the standard 3 coat application (scratch,
brown, finish) if that means anything. Just curious.
Cheers,
cc
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> I would be going with the standard 3 coat application (scratch,
> brown, finish) if that means anything.
Its not a problem doing the first two coats. I bought sacks of 'ready to
use' stucco at H/D and it went on my concrete block courtyard wall nicely.
Where the problem comes in for a newbie is the texture of the finish coat
and getting it uniform across the wall. I tried to get one of the stucco
finishers that did our home or one of the neighbors' but they couldn't get
excited about such a small job. I waited for 2 months, then finally did it
myself.
R
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| James \Cubby\ Culbertson 2005-07-19, 12:26 pm |
| Thanks! I kind of figured the base coats wouldn't be a problem. The
house, which I'm trying to match, has a texture that I think I'll try to
avoid duplicating. I worry as well whether someone would want to come in
and just do a finish coat. Seems to me, as you found out, they'd prefer to
do the entire job, not just the finish coat.
Heck, it might be nice for once to watch someone else working in the 100
degree heat so I think I'll just farm that portion out.
Cheers,
cc
"Rudy" <NoSpam@no-onehome.net> wrote in message
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quote:
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> Its not a problem doing the first two coats. I bought sacks of 'ready to
> use' stucco at H/D and it went on my concrete block courtyard wall nicely.
> Where the problem comes in for a newbie is the texture of the finish coat
> and getting it uniform across the wall. I tried to get one of the stucco
> finishers that did our home or one of the neighbors' but they couldn't get
> excited about such a small job. I waited for 2 months, then finally did
> it myself.
>
> R
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| G Henslee 2005-07-19, 6:25 pm |
| James "Cubby" Culbertson wrote:
quote:
> Hiya,
> I'm in the process of building an adobe courtyard wall at my house. I
> intend to have it stucco'ed when it's complete.
> I do 99% of all the work at my house myself (I didn't pump the septic system
> myself or it would have been 100% ).
> Initially I thought about hiring someone to do the stucco work as I've never
> worked with it before. But then as I continue on with the wall, I'm
> beginning to think about doing it myself to save a bit of $$. I have a
> high respect for plasterer's as I have never managed to get the hang of
> plastering. To me, it seems like a real art. Am I crazy to consider
> this? I would be going with the standard 3 coat application (scratch,
> brown, finish) if that means anything. Just curious.
> Cheers,
> cc
>
>
Ayup. Scratch, brown, finish is a traditional stucco application.
If it's of any size and you do this yourself I'd would stay away from
the pre-mixed crap (and any advice from Rudy). Much more economical to
have a supply yard bring you all of the raw materials. Just let them
know how big it is and they'll calc the quantities for you.
I recommend you talk to a local pro first. You may find one willing to
give you lots of advice. This is handy as well:
http://www.cement.org/bookstore/pro...sp?itemid=EB049
Post back if you need more advice.
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| SteveB 2005-07-19, 6:25 pm |
| Stucco ain't hard. Trouble is, just like a thousand other DIY projects, you
learn so much on the first job, and make some common mistakes. If you had
ten stucco jobs to do, the tenth would look the best, and you would learn a
lot of pitfalls and shortcuts on the other nine.
But, you only do one every few years, so don't get the proficiency you would
if you fool with it all the time.
Buy some books or get some at your local library. Read all you can in
advance, and ask, as here, questions.
Have all your materials and people lined up before you open the first sack.
That stuff dries, and it doesn't wait for you to catch up.
It ain't rocket surgery, and if you botch it up too bad, you just put on
another coat. I have seen them here in Las Vegas with all sorts of textures
and patterns.
Good luck. You're taking the right approach by trying to learn as much as
you can first.
Steve
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| James \Cubby\ Culbertson 2005-07-19, 6:26 pm |
| Thanks guys,
I think I'm gonna just test the waters with getting some quotes for having
this done for me. As I said, I'm worried more about the texturing part
than anything else. I'll price out materials only as well and if the
difference isn't too bad, I'll pay to have it done. Otherwise, yet another
skill to learn! I do work by myself on everything so this could be more of
a hassle than necessary. I had heard the stuff dries out pretty quickly
which means I'd have to mix very small batches which means, more time.
Anyway, I'm a ways off from finishing the adobe wall so I've got some time
(whether my back does is another story!).
Cheers,
cc
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <Nospam@null.invalid> wrote in message
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quote:
> Hiya,
> I'm in the process of building an adobe courtyard wall at my house. I
> intend to have it stucco'ed when it's complete.
> I do 99% of all the work at my house myself (I didn't pump the septic
> system myself or it would have been 100% ).
> Initially I thought about hiring someone to do the stucco work as I've
> never worked with it before. But then as I continue on with the wall,
> I'm beginning to think about doing it myself to save a bit of $$. I have
> a high respect for plasterer's as I have never managed to get the hang of
> plastering. To me, it seems like a real art. Am I crazy to consider
> this? I would be going with the standard 3 coat application (scratch,
> brown, finish) if that means anything. Just curious.
> Cheers,
> cc
>
>
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| SteveB 2005-07-19, 6:26 pm |
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"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <Nospam@null.invalid> wrote in message
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quote:
> Thanks guys,
> I think I'm gonna just test the waters with getting some quotes for having
> this done for me. As I said, I'm worried more about the texturing part
> than anything else. I'll price out materials only as well and if the
> difference isn't too bad, I'll pay to have it done. Otherwise, yet
> another skill to learn! I do work by myself on everything so this could
> be more of a hassle than necessary. I had heard the stuff dries out
> pretty quickly which means I'd have to mix very small batches which means,
> more time. Anyway, I'm a ways off from finishing the adobe wall so I've
> got some time (whether my back does is another story!).
> Cheers,
> cc
Sounds reasonable to me. Sometimes, it is just easier (and cheaper) in the
long run to have a pro do it. They're in, they're out, they're gone.
I do welding. For a $100 job, I might bring $25,000 worth of equipment to
your house. It is cost efficient to have someone else do things sometimes
instead of renting/buying component parts, and then doing it with little
experience.
You are going to have to look at that topcoat of stucco for a very long
time. You want it right.
Steve
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| blueman 2005-07-19, 11:25 pm |
| "SteveB" <desertNOSPAMtraveler@cox.net> writes:
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> It ain't rocket surgery,
No offense, but love the mixed metaphor...
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| SteveB 2005-07-24, 9:06 pm |
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"blueman" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "SteveB" <desertNOSPAMtraveler@cox.net> writes:
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> No offense, but love the mixed metaphor...
Thanks. You made my day. I don't get a lot of people who catch it, given
the NewSpeak of today.
Steve
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