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Air conditioner question.
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| Hi guys... yesterday i bought an Air Conditioner from Sears..the namebrand
was Kenmore. I saw on the outer box that there was some oil on it, but i
figured the oil was from another oil and it just happened to drip on my
unit.. i was wrong, when i went home and opened it up and took it out of
the box there was this oily liquid everywhere..inside and about..atleast a
cup of oil everywhere.. i say oil because its the closest resemblance of
what i can tell it is.. i dont know much at all about window mounted air
conditioning units.. so anyway i had it all over my hands and some was
dripping in my house.. I called up Sears tech support to find out what this
could of been and they know nothing.. i called the store, and they didnt
know either.
does anyone here know what the HECK that could of been? could it of been the
refrigerant cooling and is that stuff cancerous? that seems to be my biggest
worry at the moment.. by the way, i definately returned the unit and got
another one.
any info would be appreciated.
thanks
mike
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"mike" <mike111111_2001spammenot@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:x-ScnapeKu5lgUDfUSdV9g@ptd.net...
quote:
> Hi guys... yesterday i bought an Air Conditioner
> from Sears..the namebrand was Kenmore. I saw on the
> outer box that there was some oil on it, but i
> figured the oil was from another oil and it just
> happened to drip on my unit.. i was wrong, when i
> went home and opened it up and took it out of the box
> there was this oily liquid everywhere..inside and
> about..atleast a cup of oil everywhere.. i say oil
> because its the closest resemblance of what i can
> tell it is.. i dont know much at all about window
> mounted air conditioning units.. so anyway i had it
> all over my hands and some was dripping in my house..
> I called up Sears tech support to find out what this
> could of been and they know nothing.. i called the
> store, and they didnt know either.
>
> does anyone here know what the HECK that could of
> been? could it of been the refrigerant cooling and is
> that stuff cancerous? that seems to be my biggest
> worry at the moment.. by the way, i definately
> returned the unit and got another one.
>
> any info would be appreciated.
>
> thanks
> mike
>
Hmm, no finite answers for you but I hope you'll post
back when you find out. I doubt it's anything cancer
causing but it's an interesting mystery. Did you keep
any of it in any way? I would have.
It might be some sort of preservative they use on the
units that didn't get washed off in the productio
process I suppose. Or maybe a machine split a hose and
shot hydraulic fluid all over a bunch of boxes that
weren't closed up yet and it got missed.
The best story I've ever heard was an old chicken
sandwich found in a Hammond Organ when the tech opened
it to repair it once.
Let us know!
Pop
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| Mixed in with freon is a lubricant. Possibly the seal blew on a unit during
testing and the lubricant got on your unit. I wouldn't worry about it.
There are worse things in gasoline that you pump every week into your car
and breath it in. Check the warnings on the gas pump next time.
"Pop" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> "mike" <mike111111_2001spammenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x-ScnapeKu5lgUDfUSdV9g@ptd.net...
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> Hmm, no finite answers for you but I hope you'll post back when you find
> out. I doubt it's anything cancer causing but it's an interesting
> mystery. Did you keep any of it in any way? I would have.
>
> It might be some sort of preservative they use on the units that didn't
> get washed off in the productio process I suppose. Or maybe a machine
> split a hose and shot hydraulic fluid all over a bunch of boxes that
> weren't closed up yet and it got missed.
>
> The best story I've ever heard was an old chicken sandwich found in a
> Hammond Organ when the tech opened it to repair it once.
>
> Let us know!
>
> Pop
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| udarrell 2005-07-19, 6:25 pm |
| Art wrote:
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>Mixed in with freon is a lubricant. Possibly the seal blew on a unit during
>testing and the lubricant got on your unit. I wouldn't worry about it.
>There are worse things in gasoline that you pump every week into your car
>and breath it in. Check the warnings on the gas pump next time.
>
>
>"Pop" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
>news:FYCdnWtEm5qNvEDfRVn-3w@usadatanet.net...
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Could be a refrigerant leak.
I would not have accepted a box with oil on it without having them open
it to see if there is nay inside.
If it gets on the coils and fins it will insulate them and reduce the
heat transfer!
You would have to use special coil cleaner to get it off.
I would have taken it back! - udarrell
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Optimizing Air-Conditioner Efficiency
http://www.udarrell.com/air-conditi...rator-coil.html
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mike wrote:
quote:
> Hi guys... yesterday i bought an Air Conditioner from Sears..the namebrand
> was Kenmore. I saw on the outer box that there was some oil on it, but i
> figured the oil was from another oil and it just happened to drip on my
> unit.. i was wrong, when i went home and opened it up and took it out of
> the box there was this oily liquid everywhere..inside and about..atleast a
> cup of oil everywhere.. i say oil because its the closest resemblance of
> what i can tell it is.. i dont know much at all about window mounted air
> conditioning units.. so anyway i had it all over my hands and some was
> dripping in my house.. I called up Sears tech support to find out what this
> could of been and they know nothing.. i called the store, and they didnt
> know either.
>
> does anyone here know what the HECK that could of been? could it of been the
> refrigerant cooling and is that stuff cancerous? that seems to be my biggest
> worry at the moment.. by the way, i definately returned the unit and got
> another one.
99.999999% probability that a seal system component split or ruptured,
rapidly dumping the entire refrigerant charge.
Take it back.
hvacrmedic
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mike wrote:
quote:
> Hi guys... yesterday i bought an Air Conditioner from Sears..the namebrand
> was Kenmore. I saw on the outer box that there was some oil on it, but i
> figured the oil was from another oil and it just happened to drip on my
> unit.. i was wrong, when i went home and opened it up and took it out of
> the box there was this oily liquid everywhere..inside and about..atleast a
> cup of oil everywhere.. i say oil because its the closest resemblance of
> what i can tell it is.. i dont know much at all about window mounted air
> conditioning units.. so anyway i had it all over my hands and some was
> dripping in my house.. I called up Sears tech support to find out what this
> could of been and they know nothing.. i called the store, and they didnt
> know either.
>
> does anyone here know what the HECK that could of been? could it of been the
> refrigerant cooling and is that stuff cancerous? that seems to be my biggest
> worry at the moment.. by the way, i definately returned the unit and got
> another one.
99.999999% probability that a sealed system component split or ruptured,
rapidly dumping the entire refrigerant charge.
Take it back.
hvacrmedic
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| Travis Jordan 2005-07-19, 6:25 pm |
| mike wrote:
quote:
> I called up Sears tech support to find out what this could of
> been and they know nothing.. i called the store, and they didnt know
> either.
Just shows you the quality of Sears "tech support".
It is refrigerant oil, and it means there is a leak in the system.
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| Stormin Mormon 2005-07-24, 9:06 pm |
| Gee, you think if all the oil leaked out, it might affect the performance of
the unit?
(So far, no one has asked if he's plugged it in, and turned it on. If it is
ref oil, I'm guessing he's also lost the freon.)
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"udarrell" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Could be a refrigerant leak.
I would not have accepted a box with oil on it without having them open
it to see if there is nay inside.
If it gets on the coils and fins it will insulate them and reduce the
heat transfer!
You would have to use special coil cleaner to get it off.
I would have taken it back! - udarrell
--
Optimizing Air-Conditioner Efficiency
http://www.udarrell.com/air-conditi...rator-coil.html
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Gee, you think if all the oil leaked out, it might affect the performance of
> the unit?
>
> (So far, no one has asked if he's plugged it in, and turned it on. If it is
> ref oil, I'm guessing he's also lost the freon.)
He opened the box and saw oil everywhere, on everything. He promptly
asked if this was a problem. What suggested to you that he might have
installed it and plugged it in?
I already said that it was flat, most probably.
We're done here, there's nothing left to see 
hvacrmedic
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| Dr. Hardcrab 2005-07-24, 9:06 pm |
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Gee, you think if all the oil leaked out, it might affect the performance
> of
> the unit?
>
> (So far, no one has asked if he's plugged it in, and turned it on. If it
> is
> ref oil, I'm guessing he's also lost the freon.)
Come on, Chris!
You want him to pull it out of the box in that condition and just plug it
in??!! Maybe he should stand in a tubfull of water when he does it??
I would have suggested that he close it back up and take it back for a
replacement....
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| ~^Johnny^~ 2005-07-24, 9:07 pm |
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>You want him to pull it out of the box in that condition and just
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>does it??
Don't forget to add the Epsom Salt...
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| Stormin Mormon 2005-07-24, 9:07 pm |
| Agreed, the "close box and return" is the correct treatment plan at the
moment. Ah, I guess my syruppy dripping saracsm "what, do you think that
would affect the performance" seems to have worked.
Should only stand in a tub full of water if you add salt, make it a zinc
washtub, and use a grounding strap for safety.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Gee, you think if all the oil leaked out, it might affect the performance
> of
> the unit?
>
> (So far, no one has asked if he's plugged it in, and turned it on. If it
> is
> ref oil, I'm guessing he's also lost the freon.)
Come on, Chris!
You want him to pull it out of the box in that condition and just plug it
in??!! Maybe he should stand in a tubfull of water when he does it??
I would have suggested that he close it back up and take it back for a
replacement....
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